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I would love to talk with a Gay person who admits his sexual orientation is not natural.
I know there are many Gay people in this world who are not activists, and who understand that their sexuality is not the natural normal scientific design of our bodies.
You also are sick of activist LGBT groups trying to force you out of the closet, flaunting your Homosexuality, forcing other's to embrace it, etc. etc.
This creates anger and division between people, and puts you in the middle.
You have respect for parents who do not want their children seeing Homosexuality lifted up as normal, and we have respect for you!
These Left wing activists are trying to force us all to embrace something we know to be unnatural. It matters not if you believe you were born this way, or were sexually exposed at a young age, etc. etc.
What matters is the fact that our bodies are not designed for the same sex. It's not natural and we all know it.
What started out as tolerance for diversity, preventing bullying or violence towards others who were different, turned into a Political movement embraced by the Democrat Party.
There are thousands of sexual fetishes in this world, but this does not mean we have to act on them, or force others to embrace them.
I believe in the freedom of everyone to live their lives as they choose, but this does not mean forcing others to embrace it.
It's that simple. Can we all agree on living our lives as we choose, without forcing the next person to embrace each and every sexual orientation as being normal? This is where respect begins, and political bating stops.
I'm sure if you delved deep enough into their psyche you'd find that they know they're abnormal.
They feel if they shout loudly, hold gay rights marches, gay pride parades and demand gay marriage their deviant sexual orientation will miraculously somehow become normal.
In fact all their razz-a-ma-tazz does is to highlight their *backassways and cause resentment in people who otherwise would tolerate their perversion.
It would be nice to just be left alone, especially by people like you. Shut up about it for a moment, won't you, and I promise I won't "rub my sexuality in your face..."
I would love to talk with a Gay person who admits his sexual orientation is not natural.
What if homosexuality increases in human populations when our numbers get high, and it is a natural mechanism designed to reduce reproduction? What if it is natural, from a God’s eye point of view which you don’t have?
There is such a thing as Biology, Science, etc. that tell us what is the natural design of our bodies.
When there are over populations of animals, they do not become Gay. They run out of food, and their numbers are reduced.
In third world nations when they have too many people, they run out of food. They do not become Gay!
God has already told us in the Bible that Homosexuality is a perversion. I think he would find other ways of reducing our numbers if it were a problem. It's not a problem here in America. We actually have a shortage of workers for the jobs available, yet here in America the LGBT activism is rampant.
You are reaching for something that does not exist. I understand that you are a non believer, but please do not allow a bunch of activists to blind common sense.
God has already told us in the Bible that Homosexuality is a perversion.
God also told you not to mix clothe. God also told you not to have various plant stuff in the same field. But we do these all the time. What did Jesus say about gayness?
God says that every word written down by men in the Bible was inspired by God!
Just because people do things that the Bible says we should not do, does not mean God is ok with it. Some things were spoken to as issues of the time. Some things go against Biology and the natural designs of our bodies.
People are intelligent enough to grasp the difference and the importance of each issue.
God says that every word written down by men in the Bible was inspired by God!
Which words in the Bible did Jesus day about gayness?
Just because people do things that the Bible says we should not do, does not mean God is ok with it. Some things were spoken to as issues of the time.
My point is t that people sin, my point is that you do. Are your clothes all 100% Cotten? So you eat corn grown in fields that also sow soy beans? There is no explanation of an issue that needed addressed with these things back in the day, thus there is no way to say it no longer matters.
How many times did the Bible speak against gayness? How many times did it speak against multiple cloth clothes?
To most people, it means that every word spoken, was inspired by God the father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
That includes Jesus, the Son of God!
If I tell you that all my words are inspired by god, that does not make all my words inspired by god.
It takes some analysis to even come to the conclusion that God and Jesus are the same. So it is perfectly reasonable to ask for the words of Jesus in quotes that are distinct from the words of the father in quotes.
The fact of the matter is that Jesus was on this planet for over 30 years and never found homosexuality an important enough issue to comment on.
To compare the materials in our clothing, to Homosexuality
The Bible admonishes mixing cloth twice. How many times does it admonish homosexuality?
makes it time to IGNORE!
You already said you know I’m not a Christian. But I am addressing the issue with Christian source material. You clearly feel more strongly about homosexuality than you do about mixing cloth, but both are in the Bible. So why the difference in emotional content?
I have read nothing in the Christian New Testament concerning cotton. Give me the verses....
Jesus talks about mixing cloth as much as he talks about homosexuality. Homosexuality is not mentioned by Jesus, nor by any disciple who knew him.
NO ONE IS TRYING TO TEACH OUR CHILDREN IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS ABOUT THE CLOTH THEY USE IN THEIR CLOTHING!
No they aren’t. That’s because pretty much everyone, likely including yourself, has already fully adopted and accepted mixing cloth as standard practice.
So using your logic, since Jesus never mentioned Pedophilia, then it must also be ok?
There are many many many issues in life that Jesus never mentioned. That means nothing! God did speak to the sin of Homosexuality!
Jesus has been at God the Father's side since time began, not just 30 years on Earth.
Read Roman's in the New Testament to see what God had to say about Homosexuality.
Your arguments do not hold water.
How about speaking to something that actually has some substance... ahhhh maybe the science of Biology?
I don't use God's word to speak out against the activism of LGBT groups. I use common sense SCIENCE! Our bodies are designed for a man and woman. Anyone trying to call Homosexuality a natural orientation, is either Gay living in an constant insecurity, or brainwashed with all this non stop Political Correctness.
What's your excuse for denying Science?
I will wait for those verses from Jesus, talking about the importance of the material in our clothing.
So using your logic, since Jesus never mentioned Pedophilia, then it must also be ok?
In his day it pretty much was ok. Glad I’m not a Christian, but that explains some issues in the church.
God did speak to the sin of Homosexuality!
And of mixing cloth! Drop the holier-than-thou act. There’s a bit in the Bible that you don’t follow. That puts you exactly on par with a repentant gay Christian. Exactly on par.
Read Roman's in the New Testament to see what God had to say
You mean Paul. That was Paul who said that. He never even met Jesus. Joe Smith has his own little Road to Demarcus moment in America. I bet you’re not Mormon.
Your arguments do not hold water.
You’ll have to present an argument then. Address mixed cloth and the fetish of kissing.
How about speaking to something that actually has some substance... ahhhh maybe the science of Biology?
I did. Kissing is counter to biology.
Our bodies are designed for a man and woman.
Yeah, I get that. I’m not even arguing that. I’m saying that on biology terms, you have your own unnatural fetish sanction by tradition (kissing), and on sin terms you mix cloth.
What's your excuse for denying Science?
You know how babies are made, right? Not with your mouth.
I will wait for those verses from Jesus, talking about the importance of the material in our clothing.
Jesus left cloth and gayness to the Old Testament. I guess they are both that important.
That's your answer to the fact Jesus said nothing about Pedophilia? Trying to suggest Christians support it? This is the first time I will call you a Bigoted fool!
YOU ARE LIKE THE SIMPLE MINDED RACIST OR BIGOT WHO PAINTS AN ENTIRE RELIGION ON THE ACTIONS OF A FEW!
It's the Catholic Church that has had some problems with Gay Priests abusing boys. Some of those Churches kept it secret, and any Christian I have ever met was outraged by it!
I have never met a Christian who ever supported such depravity. News flash, Protestants have not had that problem because we do not have stupid rules where a Pastor can not get married. Many Gays who had no desire to get married became Priests.
IGNORE! I will not debate a bigot who paints an entire religion on the actions of a few.
If Jesus said nothing about the LGBT community, where is your evidence that He supported that lifestyle? I am a Berniecrat, but I have to disagree with the left on this. I love you, I tolerate you, you live your life, and I'll live mine. I don't support hate, but free thought is super important to me.
I’ll concede the point that gayness is not likely to be a natural population control. That was a stretch. But my point is this, we don’t actually know the workings of any kind of divine plan. There are gay Christians who would really like to know why they are attracted in ways they would rather not be. Saying “don’t do that” isn’t a sufficient answer for them when they can’t shut it off.
As for biology, we obviously know how reproduction works and gayness doesn’t fit the bill. But neither does kissing. By design, we derive quite a bit of pleasure from all manner of things associated with reproduction that are not actually reproduction. Which is unnatural then? The pleasure; or the act that causes it? Do you kiss your wife? Why?
Of the apparently unnatural things humans seem to do, gayness would be one among many. I’ve never seen you crusade against smoking, or tattoos, or air conditioning. Or mixing of clothe for that matter.
Yes, I have many times compared other fetishes to Homosexuality.
Many people have foot fetishes. Does anyone care? NO, and do you know why? People into foot fetishes have not become political, forming activist groups trying to push their foot fetish into our schools and State laws!
The last I knew, kissing is not given special appreciation days in our schools or Disney World, as they have done with Gay appreciation days.
I don't know how many times I have to explain my beef, but it has everything to do with LGBT activists trying to change our laws, indoctrinate our children, and twist the science of Biology, all so they can feel good about their unnatural attractions.
You do not see people who have unnatural attractions to feet, diapers, latex, etc. etc., you name it, trying to change our laws and condition our children to believe these are natural sexual attractions.
They have the common sense to understand that their particular fetish does not deserve special mention in our public schools, nor having it constantly broadcast over the airwaves into every home as to being a natural normal sexual orientation.
What letter should we give foot fetishes in the Left's new alphabet? "F" or "P" for podiatrist. Will we be called Podiaphobes if we don't want our children learning about foot fetishes?
The last I knew, kissing is not given special appreciation days in our schools or Disney World
My point about kissing is that it is unnatural, in that it is a sexual act between romantic partners and does nothing for sexual reproduction. People at Disney can openly kiss each other. They kiss in almost all the movies and cartoons.
In pretty much every Disney movie with human characters, the romantic couple kiss. The prince kisses the princess. This is a mild form of sexual interaction, but it is sexual interaction nonetheless, and does nothing for the reproductive process. It is thus, unnatural. Biologically, mouths are for food consumption. Yet this mouth fetish is not only widely accepted, probably even by you, but children are constantly exposed to it.
Do you know what you are doing right now? You are making the case for people into Bestiality, Necrophilia, etc. etc.
You are saying that the manner in which people choose to use their sexual organs, or lips, etc. is ok no matter what other's think. Everything goes no matter how unnatural. This is the Left's motto.
Rational people understand the difference between kissing between a man and woman, and a man and man.
A man and woman are scientifically and Biologically designed for each other. Not so for a man and man.
I'm starting to think you must be Gay to not admit the obvious.
There is no objective morality according to observable reality, there is nothing to suggest that there is a God who cares whether I abort and then molest a dead fetus.
Do you know what you are doing right now? You are making the case for people into Bestiality, Necrophilia, etc. etc.
That slippery slope doesn’t hold if consent and harm avoidance is maintained as a moral principle. I’ve said nothing against either of those principles.
You, on the other hand, seem to support the principle of tradition above all else. Kissing is acceptable because of tradition. Never mind that it checks the same boxes as other sexual perversions, it is acceptable tradition. If necrophilia were around long enough, your argument against kissing would hold against necrophilia as well. There isn’t one.
You are saying that the manner in which people choose to use their sexual organs, or lips, etc. is ok no matter what other's think. Everything goes no matter how unnatural.
I’ve literally made a case against kissing for being unnatural. Why do you support it?
Rational people understand the difference between kissing between a man and woman, and a man and man.
Yeah, one is gay and one is straight. But both are an unnatural sexual fetish. I bet there’s gay and straight foot fetishes too. Both are perverse. I’m not arguing that gayness is natural, I’m arguing that your kissing is unnatural and that you mixed clothes are against the Bible.
A man and woman are scientifically and Biologically designed for each other.
A mouth is literally the beginning of the digestive system. It is designed for food and verbal communication. Sexual pleasure from kissing is an unnatural fetish, and so far you have denied this.
I'm starting to think you must be Gay to not admit the obvious.
It may suit you if I was (like it would suit Nom for me to be a Jew), but I’m not. Neither am I a Jew. Neither am I a racist. But you and Nom can knock yourselves out.
God created feet, but he did not intend people to have sexual fetishes over them. Can you understand the poin
But the creatures he created are often attracted to feet. Why would they be so naturally susceptible to it? What about all the other reactions? What about when people are grossed out, amused, indifferent, etc. Is there a reaction you're SUPPOSED to have to feet?
You just joined 6 minutes ago. Are you the hateful clown who keeps creating aliases to spew his bigoted hate?
I'm a different hateful clown then the one you're thinking of.
God created mankind with the freedom to choose how he lives his life. God laid down moral laws that would help keep us all from many problems in life, but in the end, man has the free will to choose.
Just because God created man, does not mean God supports everything man chooses to do with his body.
Are you trying to say that God supports murder since he created men, and some men choose to murder?
Obviously mankind has the choice... to follow unnatural attractions towards other men, or the natural bonds between a man and woman. Maybe he lacks the natural attraction towards women, but sex is not everything in life. Having a loving wife and kids, not worrying about Aids, not going from one affair to the next, ain't all bad.
In the end it is between each person and their maker. I don't care what people choose to do with their fetishes. All I care is that they do not try to indoctrinate our children to believe it is normal, and to stop trying to force every State to embrace their agendas.
God created mankind with the freedom to choose how he lives his life. God laid down moral laws that would help keep us all from many problems in life, but in the end, man has the free will to choose.
Do you think being gay is a choice? Do you think being attracted to feet is a choice? Do you think God would send you to hell for those things alone even if you have done more good than harm in life?
Just because God created man, does not mean God supports everything man chooses to do with his body.
Why is God so particular about it, to the extent that he would punish you simply for licking your girlfriend's toe?
Are you trying to say that God supports murder since he created men, and some men choose to murder
God definitely supports killing in various contexts, although he wouldn't call it murder since (assuming he is real) he literally invented the concept of law and whatever he says would be considered law. Although there are many non-Abrahamically inclined people who would disagree with him.
Obviously mankind has the choice... to follow unnatural attractions towards other men, or the natural bonds between a man and woman.
Obviously the penis is meant to go in the vagina because that's how reproduction works, but why would God care what other things you do with them so long as you aren't hurting anyone? And what is the difference between natural and unnatural, because I don't know what the word "unnatural" even means. If something exists in nature, it must be a part of nature, and everything that exists is a part of nature. That doesn't mean everything is good but to call anything unnatural is nonsense to me.
In the end it is between each person and their maker. I don't care what people choose to do with their fetishes. All I care is that they do not try to indoctrinate our children to believe it is normal, and to stop trying to force every State to embrace their agendas.
I agree that political agendas shouldn't be forced on children, but I also don't think the existence of LGBT should be hidden from them or they should be told they are "unnatural" if they happen to be gay or like feet.
You keep wasting time talking about the choices people make when I'm speaking about activists forcing their beliefs on our impressionable children!
I will repeat one more time before I ignore your deception of what I am talking about.
I am fighting against LGBT activists trying to indoctrinate our children to believe these unnatural sexual orientations are natural. THEY ARE NOT!
God definitely does not support murder, yet men still do it!
You would the first ones screaming if religious groups were allowed into schools to indoctrinate our children. Yet we are suppose to allow you to push your humanistic sexual orientations on our impressionable children!
STOP BEING SUCH A HYPOCRITE WITH ALL YOUR DOUBLE STANDARDS!
Religion is objectively wrong, the existence of sexual orientations and desires other than pure heterosexuality after marriage in accordance with your particular sensibilities are a fact of reality.
Do you understand? Christianity is objectively factually wrong, but all you have is your pathetic "morality" which only exists where the source of all stupidity resides.
You like to pretend that you believe morality has no basis, that’s why you put it in scare quotes all the time. But you cant logically believe that there is nothing that a person ought or ought not do. You can’t actually believe that any given behavior is equivalent to any other given behavior. That’s what it would mean for morality to not exist, and if actions reflect beliefs, you don’t believe it.. If you believed it, you would have died long ago for lack of any preferences.