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Atheists can stop whining leave Christianized nations & live in Islamic nations

Atheists all around the West love to speak about how bad Christianity is, so my proposal is... Go ahead. Move. Tell us all about what it was like in Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia and Turkey. You won't have to see a Christmas tree, hear Merry Christmas, or see a nativity scene ever again. Enjoy.

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You're suggesting that because atheists don't believe in a religion which asks it's followers to believe in ridiculous nonsense, some of which I show below;-

1) A talking serpent,- if I see a snake I back off. If it starts talking to me I shit myself.

2)An individual who built a wooden boat single handedly that was large enough to accommodate two of every animal on earth along with a highly complex range of food in sufficient quantities to last a prolonged period on water. Such a vessel would have had to have been about half the size of Florida.

3) Five thousand people were fed to satisfaction with a couple of small fishes and five moldy loaves! We could do with that guy and his miracles in Africa right now where, literally 100s 0f 1000s of children are dying every day from malnutrition and disease. So because we don't buy into that shit you think we should pack up and move to Bananastan!

Atheists are as patriotic as any American only they are a greater asset as their minds are not diseased with the claptrap of dangerous hocus pocus.

4) God got bored zooming around the cosmos so he cheered himself up and build earth in six days then spent most of the seventh day having some well deserved big Zzzzzs.

I would suggest that Christians should attend therapeutic sessions to have their minds expunged of the gods and demons which were planted there as innocent children but haven't the maturity to recognize the Christian scriptures for the nonsense they are, consign them to the rubbish tip and get on with their lives without the shackles of religious superstition.

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1)I've already dismantled these arguments which are poor arguments, a thousand times on this site. You are welcome to look through my debates.

2)Your technique was to avoid the topic all together and go for the ad hominem hail mary.

3)If Christianity is so bad, go try a nation where it isn't. Show us what that looks like.

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Antrim(977) Disputed
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You've dismantled nothing except maybe in your over vivid imagination.

The only way you could dismantle anything which I say about Christianity is by rubbishing the cornerstone of your own nutty faith which is the fictional book about talking snakes and wooden boats the size of Florida known universally as the bible.

Those crazed Christians who have been unable to make the transition from childhood to adulthood and therefore incapable of making mature appraisals of the bull shit that was stuffed into their naive heads should be forced to attend psychiatric therapy sessions with the purpose of having their diseased minds expunged depicting the incredible biblical cartoons of fictitious characters such as gods and demons tormenting their every conscious moment.

Unfortunately the necessity of such a severe move is due to the en mass' existence of millions of Christians who, like Peter Pan, never grew up.

Have you had any interesting conversations with talking serpents lately?

In what language do your local snakes speak?

When your friendly snake is speaking can you say 'bottle of beer'' at the same time or does it sound more like 'gottle of geer' and your lips move slightly?

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outlaw60(8861) Clarified
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I ran across a talking serpent one time but i was drinking mushroom tea now that was a trip. So i had a few more sips just to see if i could talk to the dead but all i saw were more talking serpents !

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I've observed that the trouble with born-again Christians is that they are an even bigger pain in the ass the second time around.

God in all his imaginary glory must be the greatest, and yet the most bizarre invention ever made by mankind.

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BellaSmella(171) Disputed
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The magical nothing monster that had no cause that manifested reality and consciousness is the most bizarre imaginary manmade invention of all time.

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2 points

Hello N:

Well, no WONDER you think we're in a religious war with Muslims... You think that America is a Christianized nation...

DUDE!!!!!!

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Hello N:

Frankly, since it's YOU who doesn't understand how this great country works, YOU should leave.. Take Texas with you..

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So... the majority has no say, and you want the Mexicans gone. Got it.

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If I lived in a "Christianized nation", I probably WOULD leave. Since I live in a "freedom of religion" nation I think I'll stay. You are free to find a "Christianized Nation" if you wish, I'd even help you pack, wish you a fond farewell. (By the way ... I'm NOT whining, I LOVE freedom of religion ... AND our Constitution).

"The American government is, in NO SENSE, based on the Christian Religion." John Adams

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So we weren't settled by Pilgrims who were Quakers, and the rlegion stats from say 1950 are a myth...

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Most people in the U.S. are Christians. I'm assuming you are convinced that China isn't "Chinese" because some people there are white and black...

You live in a "right to religion" nation because your country wasn't founded by communists, atheists or Muslims.

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Cartman(18205) Disputed
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You think Christianity is a nationality. That explains so much.

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As the USA is not a Christian nation, but rather an explicitly secular state, I suppose that will be very few people on this site having to move (incidentally, Turkey is a secular state as well, and has been ever since Ataturk, so you using it as an example is a nice confirmation of your blatant ignorance).

And as an atheist, I personally think that Islam is just as ridiculous, and in some areas more so, as Christianity, and I'm sure that most atheists would agree with me here. I have no idea why some conservatives seem to think that people who dislike their own brand of nonsense and snake oil must be in love with somebody else's by definition.

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There is no referecing of a secular state by anyone in any old documents such as the DOI or the Constitution. Your money does say "In God we Trust" , the pledge does say "under God", and "endowed by our creator" is mentioned in there. Our forefathers must have been mistaken about what they meant. Maybe all of those Christians meant the Muslim god or the atheist magic nothing.

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stswebb(73) Disputed
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Most of this "under God" and "In God we Trust" nonsense, as I have mentioned before, has nothing to do with what the founders wanted but rather was shoehorned in in the 1950s during the absurd period of Cold War hysteria, in order to distinguish good old American boys from the godless commie threat. Oh, and many of them were deists anyway.

And regarding the Constitution, there are only two mentions of religion to be found: the prohibition of "religious tests" for public office, and the famous clause against establishment of a state religion, which I will not quote here again as surely even you must be aware of it by now. And guess what: no references to Christianity or Jesus Christ either.

Funny how, as with so many issues, you conservatives who claim to love the Constitution so much are once again trying to impose their own extremist views against the obvious wishes of all of the founders, whilst we "evil liberals", who you claim hate it, are actually the ones paying attention to what the words of the Constitution actually clearly say.

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As an Atheist, I agree. I think Islam is JUST as ridiculous as conservatism AND Christianity. Put the two together and you have an Evangelical mess, well....a mess anyway. Something a freedom of religion nation doesn't need.

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You are correct. The Left is made up of insecure fools threatening to leave if trump was elected.

The fools are stiil here!

These same fools love tearing down Christianity in America because they are insecure arrogant elites trying to transform this nation into their political correct Godless nightmare.

They don't love Islam, they simply use it to try and tear down Christianity. They are spoiled little Atheist children who will say and do anything to get their way.

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Antrim(977) Disputed
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Come across any talking snakes lately?

Any one down at the supermarket turning two fishes and five loaves into a few 40' container loads of food?

Are you watching Noah's descendant knocking up a 500 mile long wooden boat with 500 billion tonnes of specialized food on board, not to mention a few hundred veterinary surgeons????????

No one except a few crazed Christian bigots has mentioned Islam.

Do you, in your wildest dreams honestly expect rational adults with the powers of reasoning to believe in the bullshit as depicted in the 2000 year old scriptures which form the foundation of the Christian faith?

Are you mad?

You lot of religious raving lunatics should be isolated from the rest of normal society.

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FromWithin(5252) Disputed
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It is you the bigot tearing down people for their faith.

WHAT KIND OF INSECURE MORON SPENDS HIS TIME WORRYING ABOUT WHAT OTHER'S BELIEVE? Where does that paranoid insecurity come from?

You believe in a trillion to one possibility that our DNA just magically evolved.

Do you, in your wildest dreams honestly expect rational adults with the powers of reasoning to believe in the lunacy depicted in evolutionary theory which forms the basis for their secualr humanist dogma.

You don't even understand how the first living cell MAGICALLY POPPED OUT OF THIN AIR!

I agree it is hard to grasp the miracle of God, but it is even harder to grasp the impossible theory that our complex being just randomly mutated.

COME ON! Get something plausible please if you are going to trash aother person's beliefs.

Do you know how many things have been discovered that people thought could never possibly be true. Can you even to this day understand why we have radio and tv signals traveling through the air that can be captured on TV? Why is that even possible?

Why are we the ONLY planet of billions of solar systems with intelligent life? THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE! Please spare me how not one planet's radio signal has not reached our planet.

Why is our planet so safe from all the things that should have destroyed it many times in all these billions of years.

There are too many miracles of our lives to say we are just lucky to be the only planet of BILLIONS that magically created life from some magical living cell.

I will take my fairy tale over yours. My faith has the wisdom to know how to live moral lives and not support the inhumanity mankind has perpetrated on innocent lives.

Did you know that for all the prophecies of the Old testament to come true after Christ was born, is mathmatically imppossible? They did the numbers and it was in the trillions to the nth power.

I could not care less if you want to believe in your evolutionary fairly tale, it is your right to do so. Try havng some respect for others who do not share your fairly tale.

You dig up some fossils and WHALA!!!! We have found our origin!!!! Bigots are so desparate for the Bible not to be true, they would grasp onto any theory!

We will all see the truth in a matter of time. If Christianity is true, I have an eternity to enjoy life.

If you are correct, who cares?

I know one thing. My faith in God has given me the wisdom and ability to live a life full of love and enjoyment while missing all the pitfals froms man's amoral thinking.

I can lift my head up high knowing I was never inhuman to one innocent soul.

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BellaSmella(171) Disputed
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Adam and Eve is an allegory as is exampled by ezekiel 28 and 31. Noah is an allegory for the end of the world as Jesus referenced it. So now we see your not a theologian. Maybe you should know what you are talking about before engaging.

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mrcatsam(333) Disputed
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Well which party favors illogically taxing the middle class more so that upper class " working men" can stimulate the economy?

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FromWithin(5252) Disputed
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DEMOCRATS FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm the lower middle class and I lived it!

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BellaSmella(171) Disputed
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Barack Obama is the answer you are looking for. *

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You don't live in a Christianized country. You live in a developed country.

Brazil is Christian. In 2015, Brazil had a murder rate of 25.2 per 100,000 population.

Colombia is Christian. In 2016, Colombia had a murder rate of 24.4 per 100,000 population

Jamaica is Christian. Jamaica had about 45 slayings per 100,000 people in 2015, keeping it ranked among the most violent countries in the world.

Honduras is Christian. Between 2011 and 2015 the murder rate in Honduras decreased by 30%. Homicides went down from 88.5 per 100,000 residents to 60.0 per 100,000. 

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Why leave when for most of the last century they've been well served by religious freedom and separate of church and state. The better question is if you don't believe any American can hold whatever belief they want AND that's written in to the Constitution then why don't YOU leave? Hmm?

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