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If God is possible what logic is there in being Atheist?

Just curious as to if Atheism is based on an emotional appeal or an intellectual appeal.


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Hello bront:

Of course, it IS possible that there's a God.. But, as long as we're looking a possibilities, it's possible that there's a Flying Spaghetti Monster too.. As long as that's possible, what logic is there in denying it?

excon

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a Flying Spaghetti Monster too.. As long as that's possible, what logic is there in denying it?

1)I don't deny it. Mathematical Infinity makes all kinds of things possible within infinite space and/or time.

2)Spaghetti isn't offering me love or eternal life, nor is it offering my friends anything. I have no reason to hope it exists, thus no profound interest in searching it out any further.

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Cartman(18198) Disputed
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2) how is that different from atheism?

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NowASaint(1205) Clarified
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The guy is throwing out a straw man argument...........he starts by saying "a God" may exist, so he is not talking about God to start with, he is talking about a thing comparable to the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The Flying Spaghetti Monster being a thing which we can imagine does not compare to God who gives us the power of imagination and cannot be imagined as we cannot imagine anything outside of our imagination. God is there if your imaginative powers are functioning or not. This brainless atheistic argument presented by the pothead is only intended to confuse and the only person who is really confused by it is the one who is using it as they fool themselves into thinking it is a valid argument when it is nonsense.

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2)Spaghetti isn't offering me love or eternal life, nor is it offering my friends anything. I have no reason to hope it exists, thus no profound interest in searching it out any further.

Um, but by the law of mathematical infinity that you just brought up, there IS a Spaghetti god that is offering you and your friends love and eternal life.

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Atheists scream for proof, but does it matter? That is the question.

https://youtu.be/bp4NkItgf0E

https://youtu.be/DfPeprQ7oGc

https://youtu.be/A9tKncAdlHQ

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Also along the same line of thought as "If God is possible what logic is there in being Atheist?" is "If there being no God is possible, what point is their in being religious?" or even "If it is possible that all of the Greek Myths are true, why be Christian, Jewish, so on?" It is up to what you believe in and what you think is true. If the reasoning is "Hey if it is possible to have eternal happiness why not get on the road just in case?" then I can say "Why be Christian if it is possible that the aforementioned Greek Myths are real? Why not worship those gods and goddesses instead?" It is all up to personal belief and some believe it is a waste of time to pursue religious endeavors since they don't believe in a God or any gods/goddesses.

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He really isn't...at least how you expect him to be.

But anyway, you're allowed to keep any random notions of hope, something which makes no sense.

The Gods created by humans are just the Gods you'd expect from a species that's about half a chromosome away from being a chimpanzee. At least the Abrahamic ones, anyway.

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He really isn't...at least how you expect him to be.

You don't know how I expect him to be. I'm an abrasive person. Perhaps I want him to be abrasive.

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But anyway, you're allowed to keep any random notions of hope, something which makes no sense

So how does meeting the basic hierarchy of psychological needs "make no sense"?

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The fact that you're allowed to believe in almost any arbitrary notions doesn't.

Anything that isn't in my safe religions shouldn't be allowed by the state.

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NowASaint(1205) Clarified
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You might point out that this devil minded fool has no hope outside of death.

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The Gods created by humans are just the Gods you'd expect from a species that's about half a chromosome away from being a chimpanzee

Well we're closer in relation to pigs, and have much different inner bodily working systems, but whatever...

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As I said last time, I want evidence for the claim that we're closer to pigs than chimpanzees.

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At least the Abrahamic ones, anyway.

So how many "Abrahamic gods" do you suggest that there are exactly?

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I've only heard about 3 of them - one that's narcissistic, one that's insane, and one that's crazy and narcissistic - under Judaism, Islam and Christianity respectively.

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Atheists demand proof but does it matter? That is the question.

https://youtu.be/bp4NkItgf0E

https://youtu.be/DfPeprQ7oGc

https://youtu.be/A9tKncAdlHQ

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If God is possible what logic is there in being Atheist?

If is the statement in the first place.

being rational and unbiased to arguments, we can say that the idea of "god" is just philosophy of some people back at that time.. so believing the head, wrt to all knowledge we possess and science, we should not so much believe in "god" until we actually have something profound. Again, I respect all views and arguments and don't intend to offend anyone..

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unbiased to arguments, we can say that the idea of "god"

I've never met this particular type of Atheist. Are they in outer space next to the Spaghetti Monster and the magical nothing that manifested reality from its magical nothingness?

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beastforever(437) Disputed Banned
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I've never met this particular type of Atheist

one's here, not my problem if you don't know any of em'.

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Just because something is possible doesn't mean it's wrong to doubt it.

Star Trek aliens who look 99% human and can speak our language is possible, but most of us don't really believe that's how alien life will be.

Big Foot, the Loch Ness Monster, ghosts, vampires, are all possible, but most sensible people don't really think they exist, or that if they do they're not really in the form that matches up to the legends.

Beating me in an argument is possible, but no one really thinks you're going to.

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Sure I am. In infinite space and time, not only do all of those things exist, but they exist in infinite amounts. It's Hawking's Theory of Everything. Or are you claiming a basketball can exist inside of nothing?

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Grenache(4827) Disputed
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If every possibility can exist simultaneously then that also means there are versions where it's possible no God exists.

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Is it really proof you seek Grenache? That is the question.

https://youtu.be/bp4NkItgf0E

https://youtu.be/DfPeprQ7oGc

https://youtu.be/A9tKncAdlHQ

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Grenache(4827) Disputed
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Dermot(2910) Banned
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If god is possible what logic is there in being an atheist ?

Which God are you referring to ?

You do know there are claims for thousands of other gods .

The logic in being an atheist is the fact that most were believers like you and others but used logic to overcome the horeshit they were fed by the process of indoctrination ; believers claim to have a realationship with a supernatural entity they have never seen , heard or touched yet exists ....

Logic never came into it for believers they are all merely products of indoctrination and too weak to challenge the bullshit they were fed as mere infants

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You do know there are claims for thousands of other gods

Only in Hinduism, which is being replaced quickly by the "God of Abraham". 90+% of the theistic world believes in "the God of Abraham". Just as the Bible said would happen.

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Dermot(2910) Disputed Banned
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Incorrect , and your reliance on what the bible says is amusing to say the least

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NowASaint(1205) Clarified
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You'll find Dermot is just about as nasty a bastard as can be imagined here....and Grenade is not far behind

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The logic in being an atheist is the fact that most were believers like you and others but used logic to overcome the horeshit they were fed by the process of indoctrination

So you now believe that a magical nothing used its magical nothingness to magically manifest reality? Makes sense....

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believers claim to have a realationship with a supernatural entity they have never seen , heard or touched yet exists ....

Okay. Show us the magical nothing that magically manifested reality. We want proof and pictures.

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Dermot(2910) Disputed Banned
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You truly are lost aren't you ? Thats precisely what YOU believe so show us the proof and pictures

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NowASaint(1205) Clarified
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Nagpal is extremely demonized.....he makes some very serious threats to harm people.

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logic never came into it for believers they are all merely products of indoctrination and too weak to challenge the bullshit they were fed as mere infants

1)the highest IQs on Earth are theists. Ask if you want the links. I created a debate about it as well.

2)Maybe you were just too weak to hold onto faith when life wasn't perfect.

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Dermot(2910) Disputed Banned
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The highest IQ's on earth are theists , I don't believe that and even if it were true so what ?

No I wasn't weak as I realised I was believing in bullshit which again demonstrates that it's you who is terrified to question as you're to weak to realise you're living a lie

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NowASaint(1205) Clarified
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Dermit must have been in jail or out on a big long drinking binge.....he seems to be drunk in here often, acting goofy, and then poof, he'll be gone for six months or a year, then come back as nasty as ever. One of these times he won't come back and will probably wake up in Hell wishing he had listened to and believed God's word before it was too late.

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Would youreally want proof if it was put right before your face? That is the question.

https://youtu.be/bp4NkItgf0E

https://youtu.be/DfPeprQ7oGc

https://youtu.be/A9tKncAdlHQ

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NowASaint(1205) Clarified
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Atheists do not want proof that God is there, they want to believe they are exonerated in death.

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Dermot(2910) Disputed Banned
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Thanks for a hilarious link to what looks like a reject from a 1970's funk band 👌😂

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Based on the self contradictory scriptural content of the main religions the considered opinion of most atheists is that the various man made gods currently on offer do not, and indeed could not exist.

So the key word here is ''IF''.

'IF' your granny had testicles she'd be your grandfather.

''IF'' it's possible to live forever where's the logic in dying?

Maybe it's better to hedge your bets and, as most agnostics think, well, never say never.

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Atheists demand proof but does it matter. That is the question.

https://youtu.be/bp4NkItgf0E

https://youtu.be/DfPeprQ7oGc

https://youtu.be/A9tKncAdlHQ

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excon(3298) Disputed
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Hello bront:

Nahhh... To demand proof would suggest that there IS proof, but hasn't been revealed yet... But, we DON'T demand proof, just as I expect you wouldn't demand proof for a Spaghetti monster..

excon

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Uh huh. The Roman gods seemed to have died and been replaced by the insignificant man that they crucified, ironically.

Hinduism is cascading into a sea of the God of Abraham. 90+% of theists believe in the God of Abraham, pushing towards what the Bible foretold. Anything else?

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I don't really think god is possible, that's MY logic for being Atheist. The key word there is "think". You THINK there IS, I THINK there isn't. My "logic" is as likely as yours, since neither of us has any proof one way or the other, the beat goes on.

I won't "rail against" your god, I only rail against your insistence that I, and only I, am wrong when you can offer NO proof that either of us is right.

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I don't really think god is possible, that's MY logic for being Atheist. The key word there is "think". You THINK there IS, I THINK there isn't....

I, and only I, am wrong when you can offer NO proof that either of us is right

-"You don't offer proof"

Sure I do. Atheists aren't watching or listening because they don't want to be wrong.

https://youtu.be/bp4NkItgf0E

https://youtu.be/DfPeprQ7oGc

https://youtu.be/A9tKncAdlHQ

You think "....." I think "......."

What you think doesn't have Pascal's wager attached to it. If I'm wrong, so what? If you are wrong...

The way I think offers possible reward. There is no possibility of reward with "how you think".

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I have plenty of proof. Atheists literally don't want it. It's not a brain issue. It's a heart issue.

https://www.facebook.com/The-Beast-is-Strong-in-This-One-273041423117102/

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God isn't possible. Stop talking shit. Fucking moron.

Goodnight. Please sleep and wake up with sense.

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Sure He is. A little too real, and I can prove it. You just don't want it.

https://www.facebook.com/The-Beast-is-Strong-in-This-One-273041423117102/

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I think that what you're trying to get at is it may be possible that there is no God but is it reasonable? I personally would say that it is more reasonable to think that the Christian God exists while the others don't

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Any logical person would have to be agnostic at most as atheism claims knowledge of all things in order to propagate the non-existence of God.

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from what I've noticed (just from the atheist i know personally) many atheist are in stage of their lives were they are in a since "finding themselves" so i feel this is sorta of an easy way to not commit to anything until they have viewed all options.

Again my opinion from the atheists i know not saying everyone is like this

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