Yes, you are judged, you are in condemnation of death. If you think you can challenge it, why can't you win?

You can't win life as a challenge, you are lost no matter how hard you try to change life into a challenge, all you are doing is dying and that is not living.

So you are keeping yourself out of Hell by taking the challenge of life like taking a bull by it's horns? So how come you can't get yourself out of dying if you are up to the challenge of life to keep yourself out of Hell?

You know why you are banned, don't you? It's because you are a friend of witches and strong in your belief that you are too good to be left in the fire of Hell even for a moment, and you are annoying in your rebellion. If you think you can handle the challenge of dying and you think you earn or have the right to exist outside of Hell, you are losing everything. Your pride is keeping you in defiance of God and it's sin, it's taking you to Hell and only God the Savior, Jesus Christ can get you out of it if you will repent of all your sin together at once, seek God's mercy, believe on His Son who conquered death and offers forgiveness to all who will receive Him by faith as He is, God the Creator who died for our sins and rose from the dead bodily to save all who will trust in Him. You are on the outside of God's will, doing your own thing going your own way, making your own rules and making yourself to be your own god. I really feel sorry for you, I try to make this as personal as I can for you, I have no pleasure in seeing you go your own way in dying, no pleasure in the thought of you ending up in Hell........I keep on believing that if I somehow manage to say the right thing at the right time, the light switch in your brain will come on and you will see the truth of God's love in the risen Savior who died for you...but realistically, Jesus Christ Himself could never get the point across to most people and they crucified Him for his efforts in trying to get them to see the truth.

I guess it depends on persons perspective with Christianity. Simply saying "oops my bad, sorry" doesn't get you forgiveness. You have to truly feel it in your heart. God would know if you are just asking forgiveness without feeling genuine sorrow for your actions.

Everyone leads a "vile life", from Christians to Atheists. The difference is that Christians humble themselves before God and Atheists do not, thus they have chosen to not spend eternity with Him, so they don't. He lets you choose. And atheists have chosen to be seperated from Him. So He gave them what they demanded.

And besides, He knows if someone is bluffing, mocking or "faking it". He never plays the fool. There is no magic potion. Either you come to Christ legitimately or you do not.

Hi Pothead, how high are you? Are you high enough to get out of death?

This is the crazy thing about potheads...they remain stunted emotionally due to repeatedly trying to escape their real emotions in their distorted world of "high", then they get high and start thinking about death and don't know where they are going while they hope its not into the fire of Hell, so they get high again to try to feel better about avoiding reality.

I do not lead a vile life, I live a life of holiness fearing and serving God. Christians are supposed to be different, not do the sinful things lost people do, not talk the sinful way they talk, not go the sinful places they go. If you are leading a vile life you need to repent of your sin and get the unholy garbage out of your life.

You just pronounced your own judgement. You are indeed on your way to Hell and need to be saved from it. I know the Savior, He saved me, He can and will save you but you will not repent of your sin and believe on Him, will you? I doubt it.

I"m lifting your ban here to allow you at least one response, and if you show yourself constructive in conversation and not profane or vulgar, I will not reinstate the ban. Read my reply carefully and respond accordingly please.

I would have to agree with you, if a person is leading a vile life it does appear that they are on their way to Hell. The truth of the matter is we have all lived a vile life in the sight of God who sees our thoughts and knows everything we have ever said, done, thought, or imagined everywhere we have ever been. Jesus called His own disciples "evil" while they were following Him around listening and watching Him and doing their best to do what He said they were to do and avoid doing what He said they should not do.

Christian means a person who believes in the Messiah, the word "Christ" means "Messiah". The prophets and judges in the Old Testament believed in the Messiah and looked forward to His arrival, yet some of them went off in erroneous beliefs and ungodly actions...for example Solomon who loved many women and whose heart was turned away from God by the ungodly women he loved, and Samson who also had a problem with lust for beautiful women. Both of these men of God repented of their sin toward or at the end of their lives and they are in Heaven, Samson was mentioned in what is called "The Hall of Faith" in the book of Hebrews for his heroic self-sacrificing actions in the name of the Lord at the end of his life.....yet Samson and Solomon both missed out of a lot of blessings they would have been rewarded for in Heaven if they had lived godly lives and not allowed themselves to be pulled astray by their lust.

It's true, if you honestly seek God's forgiveness with your dying breath, calling out to Him in the name of His Son who died for you, asking for His mercy, believing Christ died for your sins and rose from the dead willing and able to forgive you of the sins He died for, you will be forgiven...but why wait until the last moment to start believing God, why not show by your manners in all areas of conduct that you have believed and why not live a life of thankfulness to your Creator and Savior obeying Him, striving to please Him by doing what He says you should do and avoiding what He says you should not do..........assuming you have at some point believed on Christ and are saved.....that applies to people who claim to be Christians, atheists simply believe they can do whatever in the name of Hell they feel like doing whether good or evil.

What seems to be crazy to you is that God actually forgives sinners, and there are sinners in this world you can point to who seem by comparison to be more vile than you yet they claim to know God has forgiven them of all their sin. Now, if they are living a perverted lifestyle like Solomon or Samson did for a while it does appear that they are not forgiven and do not care about being forgiven....and yet they are God's children and He will punish their sins while they remain His children. God has made a covenant open to all who will believe and trust in Him, a covenant He signed with His own blood promising forgiveness to all who come to Him seeking mercy and believing on His Son. God's covenant cannot secure the behavior of sinners, it can only promise that He will keep His end of the bargain and that is to forgive all who are covered by the blood of His Son, a covering they receive when they come to Him in faith, siding with Him against all of their sin, and believing on His resurrected Son who is God the Creator who died for our sins to be our Savior. Anybody who really believes should be against their own sin as their sin is what nailed Christ to the cross. If our child died by a weapon in the hands of an evildoer, we would not keep the weapon that killed our child as a conversation piece on our mantle, and we should not continue in the sins for which our Savior died as those sins are like the weapon that killed our child. This is why I doubt that Brontoraptor is a child of God, because he promotes and engages in all kinds of ungodly entertainments which promote the world which hates God.

Wow, I didn't know you have been outside of Hell for hundreds of millions of years in God's time.

I don't want to deal with your stupidity here, wino. You might want to have another glass now.

So you are trying to explain why you feel you are always being made a fool of?

You can't live without wine, your a drunk......just face it.

Your mind is your god, and you try to appease it by offering it wine habitually, ritually, and reverently. Is it making dying easy for you?

Hello,

I can certainly see your point and in some cases I agree. If my child were murdered by someone, I wouldn't want to see the murderer in Heaven, even if he genuinely felt sorrow for his actions.

I think it depends on the type of sorrow. Is it one where it is motivated by selfish reasons? "I'm sorry, so sorry for what I did" (because I don't want to be punished for it). Or is it true, gut wrenching "I deserve the punishment I get, the sorrow I have for my actions are eating me alive inside and I deserve it."

I think if Hitler (extreme example I know but his actions were VILE) were to meet God and have sorrow for his actions he will still go to hell. If you knowingly break a commandment repeatedly, if you go through life intentionally causing suffering to others, it doesn't really matter what you feel in the end. You dedicated your life to everything God is against.

Does that make sense? I hope I didn't make it too convoluted, this is just my feeling.

Real Christians are saying we all deserve to burn in Hell for our sins, and we are not in Hell because God is merciful and does not want us in Hell. I think that's enough for you here, put this post in your pipe and smoke on it for a while...if God gives you time.

You and Mint Tea can go smoke your herbs somewhere else....if God gives you time and you don't wake up in Hell first.

Define "vile life", so that we know exactly what you mean, for the sake of argument.

I"m lifting your ban here to allow you at least one response, and if you show yourself constructive in conversation and not profane or vulgar, I will not reinstate the ban. Read my reply carefully and respond accordingly please.

I would have to agree with you, if a person is leading a vile life it does appear that they are on their way to Hell. The truth of the matter is we have all lived a vile life in the sight of God who sees our thoughts and knows everything we have ever said, done, thought, or imagined everywhere we have ever been. Jesus called His own disciples "evil" while they were following Him around listening and watching Him and doing their best to do what He said they were to do and avoid doing what He said they should not do.

Christian means a person who believes in the Messiah, the word "Christ" means "Messiah". The prophets and judges in the Old Testament believed in the Messiah and looked forward to His arrival, yet some of them went off in erroneous beliefs and ungodly actions...for example Solomon who loved many women and whose heart was turned away from God by the ungodly women he loved, and Samson who also had a problem with lust for beautiful women. Both of these men of God repented of their sin toward or at the end of their lives and they are in Heaven, Samson was mentioned in what is called "The Hall of Faith" in the book of Hebrews for his heroic self-sacrificing actions in the name of the Lord at the end of his life.....yet Samson and Solomon both missed out of a lot of blessings they would have been rewarded for in Heaven if they had lived godly lives and not allowed themselves to be pulled astray by their lust.

It's true, if you honestly seek God's forgiveness with your dying breath, calling out to Him in the name of His Son who died for you, asking for His mercy, believing Christ died for your sins and rose from the dead willing and able to forgive you of the sins He died for, you will be forgiven...but why wait until the last moment to start believing God, why not show by your manners in all areas of conduct that you have believed and why not live a life of thankfulness to your Creator and Savior obeying Him, striving to please Him by doing what He says you should do and avoiding what He says you should not do..........assuming you have at some point believed on Christ and are saved.....that applies to people who claim to be Christians, atheists simply believe they can do whatever in the name of Hell they feel like doing whether good or evil.

What seems to be crazy to you is that God actually forgives sinners, and there are sinners in this world you can point to who seem by comparison to be more vile than you yet they claim to know God has forgiven them of all their sin. Now, if they are living a perverted lifestyle like Solomon or Samson did for a while it does appear that they are not forgiven and do not care about being forgiven....and yet they are God's children and He will punish their sins while they remain His children. God has made a covenant open to all who will believe and trust in Him, a covenant He signed with His own blood shed on His cross on Calvary, promising forgiveness to all who come to Him seeking mercy and believing on His Son. God's covenant cannot secure the behavior of sinners, it can only promise that He will keep His end of the bargain and that is to forgive all who are covered by the blood of His Son, a covering they receive when they come to Him in faith, siding with Him against all of their sin, and believing on His resurrected Son who is God the Creator who died for our sins to be our Savior. Anybody who really believes should be against their own sin as their sin is what nailed Christ to the cross. If our child died by a weapon in the hands of an evildoer, we would not keep the weapon that killed our child as a conversation piece on our mantle, and we should not continue in the sins for which our Savior died as those sins are like the weapon that killed our child. This is why I doubt that Brontoraptor is a child of God, because he promotes and engages in all kinds of ungodly entertainments which promote the world which hates God, his speech is full of profanity, and his teachings are far too often in direct denial of what the Bible clearly teaches.

I don't know what you mean by "your god". I don't have a god. Idiot.......now I'm being nice to you, telling you the truth about your idiotic behavior which got you banned. You know me well enough that if you come in my discussion refusing to acknowledge God's name as God, and refusing to restrain yourself from referring to Him as a god, you are probably going to get banned. How stupid can you be, idiot? Your behavior is idiot and it got you banned the same as so many times before. Broken record, son (or daughter, still not sure you know what you are). Your brain is stuck on idiot mode I guess.

You are doing whatever you feel like doing. If you were doing what God wants you to be doing, you would be saying sorry to Him for being a sinner and seeking His mercy through God the Savior who died for you to save you from Hell.

You're doing your own thing and it's keeping you in enmity with God, and it's taking you to Hell.

Are you telling me that you are the fulfillment of Matthew 13:38-39 ? If you are then I obviously should oppose you at all costs.

So you are trying to tell me that God wants you to be stupid ?

What you are doing is dying. If God wants you to be dying, why does he give you time?

Because people are lost and on their way to Hell, God wants them in Heaven, and they need to hear the good news of how they can be saved and go to Heaven. Why else would God have me here when Heaven is my home?

To test us and refine us. Otherwise eternal bliss would take on no meaning or appreciation.

If you want a more in depth and specific answer, I'd suggest looking into the parable of the wheat and tares.

Don't worry about why you are excluded from this debate, it's not like you are excluded from going to Heaven, is it?

What is the torture, what does it consist of, and what is said "torture"'s definition from?

You don't see life, you don't have life, all you have is dying and you are blind to life. God offers you life through faith in His Son, if you will receive Him as your Savior He will be your life and you will have eternal life.

Life comes only from the Living God and you prefer dying and it's all you have now......and you are losing it all to the fire of Hell. You need to be saved.

You need to rethink and stop what you are doing.

Show me in the Bible anything like "God politely obliged". The fire of Hell is an instrument of God's wrath against sin, there is nothing polite about it. Those who believe not the Son are condemned, the wrath of God abides on them. (John 3:18, John 3:36).

I don't know where you learned anything about the Bible, but I think your teacher had demons and left some of those demons with you....hence your demonic icon and your animalistic screen name.

Please read my reply though I banned you due to your tendency to be profane and vulgar in speech. I don't want to see any of that from you here.

Yes, it is a good question and there is one correct answer: God does not want you in Hell or you would be there now, God wants you to be forgiven.

You can't be forgiven if you will not stop opposing God, you can't be forgiven if you will not believe He took your sins on Himself and died for you, in your place, so that you can have life with Him, through Him, by Him as He is risen from the dead offering forgiveness to all who will turn against their sins and believe on Him.

You are not burning in Hell now because God is showing you mercy. He will not show you mercy forever if you will not repent of your sins and trust in the Savior and receive Him by faith as He is, the Living God. Believe, ask God in Jesus' name to save you from Hell, receive Jesus by faith as your Savior and you will be saved.

Too bad you could not consider what I carefully wrote for you, and all you could do is whine about being banned.

Apparently you missed the topic question. Repeat: The question is, if God wants you in Hell, why are you not there yet? Is that question too difficult for you to answer?

Please tell me how bad you are that God is killing you. You need to be concerned about yourself, you are condemned and need to find God's mercy or you wont' have it and you will end up in Hell. Trying to accuse God of being unrighteous will not do you any good.

God promised to never again destroy the world by flood, the next time it is going to be by fire....and you will be in that fire or in the fire of Hell if you will not believe God does not want you in Hell and paid your price in death through the blood of His cross, and rose bodily from the dead to justify all who will believe on Him and receive Him as their Savior.

Not a bad reply though it's hard for me to see any truth in it. God does not give chances. You are not in Hell because God does not want you in Hell. It's that simple. God gives you time to repent of your sin and believe on His Son to be saved from Hell, limited time. If you will not repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved before your time runs out, your fate is already determined and that will be in the only place God has for sinners....the fire of Hell.

I"m just going to ban you since not once here have you shown any sign that you even read the title of the debate. Either you did not read it, or your fried brain is incapable of focusing thought around the question in a way enabling you to discuss it without avoiding it.

If you can determine your fate for yourself, why can't you stop dying?