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 If God was in Human form on earth as King, could people still ignore God and obey satan? (163)

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If God was in Human form on earth as King, could people still ignore God and obey satan?

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People don't "ignore" God, they simply do not believe in him. If God existed in a tangible, provable form, then belief wouldn't factor into it and "atheism" wouldn't really exist.

Ignoring wouldn't factor in either way.

jeffreyone(1383) Clarified
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its such a pitty when the Evidence of God is right infront our face. Anyways Blessed are those who do not see but believe

cownbueno(407) Disputed
2 points

Can you actually provide one piece of evidence or are you just stating that there is evidence somewhere out there, but that you can't actually prove it.

IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
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What evidence?

pirateelfdog(2655) Clarified
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its such a pitty when the Evidence of God is right infront our face.

Can you please explain what that evidence is?

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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1) Science can only observe what is measurable and quantifiable.

2) What is measurable and quantifiable is finite by definition.

3) But if God were finite, then by definition it wouldn't be God.

4) So your claim of “”no evidence for God” is based on either a complete ignorance of the definition of God, or a consciously created Straw Man.

These people almost always put up a consciously created Straw Man which is not God, and then they say the thing they are talking about cannot be God. It's really very stupid stuff. They know God is the One they want to deny, and in reality they are only denying themselves of life.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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You can ban people who are abusive in language. You can ban people for no reason at all. I wish you would ban some of these idiots who don't know how to talk without spitting profanity in your face. I make the mistake or reading the posts of profane people like DinklePickingFag and Plupiter and get a bag full of profanity in my face before I stop reading and tell myself to avoid their trashy posts......sodomites are the worst, so full of hatred.

Srom(12206) Disputed
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That's not really true because even when Jesus Christ was on this earth, and He was performing miracles in front of everybody else and not everyone accepted Him or would believe. And they even had visual proof of what He did.

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No, you assume they had physical proof of what he did. We don't have physical proof that they had any kind of proof, so that assertion is unverifiable.

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We have eyewitness accounts from people who's testimony cost them their social and community standing as well as their lives. They knew what they were saying was true, refusing to recant in face of tortuous death. The gospel message continues because it is true and cannot be stopped. Jesus conquered death, it could not hold Him in the ground and all who believe on Him will be delivered from death into eternal life. Sinners can be saved from Hell, sinners can be born again today as a new creation created in Christ Jesus unto good works.

The good news they say is too good to be true, because they know that if they believe it they will have to turn away from their favorite pet pleasures of sin, so they tell themselves that they are too good to be separated from God forever by their sin in Hell, even though they are separated from Him by their sin now and remain in condemnation of death. Then they get mad at you for telling them the truth when in reality they are only mad at God for not letting them have their own way to get what they want.

AlofRI(3294) Clarified
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Exactly! I would LOVE to ignore Donald Trump .... but I can't, he exists!

Still, I wonder how many Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists etc. would be loyal to that "King"?? I, as an Atheist would HAVE to be, I guess. My whole belief would HAVE to change! I could live with that, but, I think that throne will remain empty, not looking at any changes in the future, OR, in the rhetoric of the past among those that want a King.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
2 points

Jesus will rule the world from Mt. Zion, He's coming back. As foretold, Jerusalem is a cup of trembling for the whole world as nuclear war is on the brink thanks to Arab hatred of the Jews.

Why do you think Hitler wanted to wipe out the Jews? Why do you think the Arabs want to wipe out the Jews? I imagine you have some GOOFY answer, so I'll help...it's because they represent the promises of God in the world. In order to take over the world, you have to negate the promises of God. It's not going to happen, there will always be a remnant of Jews and one day all of Israel will know Jesus is their Messiah who they rejected 2000 years ago.

I could not find anything in the Bible indicating people will be able to ignore God and obey Satan when Jesus reigns from Mt. Zion with all of the kingdoms of the world overthrown by Him.

jeffreyone(1383) Clarified
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Ok this time let me use your logic to explain the coming of christ.

Gravity says; Everything that goes up must come down: by your cherished scientist Isaac Newton.

Jesus went up and he must come down(make sense now?)

Proof that he went up is The existence of the Holy spirit.

Proof of the Holy Spirit.....people speaking in tongues.

Proof of tongues… : Go to church (penticostal).

Proof is not Fake; seeing is believing to you. Go see for yourself.

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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Answer part 1

The word ignoring, suggests response required or expected, without attention of those " ignoring"

They are ignoring, no matter what they believe, because eventually the warrant for their arrest will show up at their door.

Ignoring God, is said, because regardless of peoples thoughts views opinions actions lifestyles their place in life their problems joys sufferings successes happiness sadness etc ... they all will be required to answer to Him. Truth is truth, it is not subjective. And God does not change.

So ignoring is the correct word, because procrastinating, denying, turning a blind eye, flat out rebelling, no matter what the motive or thought or at the heart of ignoring, is ignoring. Because ignoring is an answer too. And we all will answer Him, no matter what manner of ignoring Him.

The Bible has always been both a physical record and a spiritual record. There are aprox 2000 prophesies that have been fulfilled, and aprox 500 prophesies left to be fulfilled, likely some are in process.

For over 6000 years God's Word layers upon layers of prophesies springboards in play stacked one on another.

In the Bible we have a history book made to be an example giving us a wealth of knowledge, wisdom, advise, guidance, and understanding. He directed all of civilization through it.

Every generations goes by, and all people ultimately are in orbit around God, and His Word!

We either love, hate, or ignore Him, but whether we know it or not, God is in the middle, and we all are answering to Him.

If you go anywhere, any mall, assembly, amusement park, airport ... and asked anyone anywhere, to give answer to God and the Bible, you would have almost 100% already have it answered, and will answer in a scripted water down to the punctuation of their answer.

We all have a down pat answer that we have said so often, we don't even realize it! Regardless of the answer it is answered. Ask the same an answer to anything else, and put it into a statistic, I hypothesize that God and the Bible will be the most by rote automatic answer, with only hesitation being how to answer if concerned about other "feelings" or "perceptions" of what they are about to answer.

Other than that I would expect an answer from most all people, every culture, walk of life, age, status, almost all everywhere, already have an answer that can be recalled as automatically as breathing!

Ask anything else, and thought on the subject would precede an answer, because the answer would require a thought unless it were based on their personal interests. But the Bible and God answer would be automatic, even with 0 interest. Even if they say, "I have 0 interest," it would be in tandem with their automatic answer.

As Christians, we hope to challenge their answer so they can answer, while they can. But ignoring an investigative look, to really have interest in truth, and hopefully prepare people to answer to God and the Bible in a way that assures eternal life as opposed to a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth!

KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Answer part 2

Matthew 24:14

This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

The Bible stands in the middle as we go around it, and everyone of us, not one of us hasn't, we all answered.

In every century it was the focus of men. Satan had a short time so he raised up an antichrist who stands between God and man and speakd as if he were God. For over millenniums they martyred the faithful, waged assault on the Word intent to currupt the faith.

Think about it, how did a pope rise to rule the world? Isn't it interesting, all these things are foretold.

You can see Satan’s movements and his demons throughout time, they appear in every era with enslavement and hate growing out of control.

You can see Satan chase after and target Gods people. God's Word and God's people faced brutal hate, and deviations of evil against God's people literally every era from oppressions of the Jews in Egypt, captives in Babylon, under the thumb of Roman rule, to early church martyrdom, the Inquisitions, to Hitler, to Jews and Christians.

This has always been the case, every generation God's Word and His people was standing in the middle. Everyone in every generation answering to Him, many are even on public record. Isn't that wild for such an insignificant book and a non-existent God.

You could ask Egypt and Babylon, Nineve, Sodom, and Gomorrah, where is God and who is God, and even though they worshipped their own gods, they all would step back for a split fraction of a second, and they all answer to the God of Israel.

Each know who God really is. All are aware of Israel's God. All know the message of Jesus. And all have given an answer to Him. Some answers are even recorded, by their own hand, in their own writing, and will be held as evidence against them unless the repent and turn back to Him. Hell wasnt intended for mankind, but if mankind ignores God, well, He won't force on them His Salvation.

So, how many today have answered Him, and have even piled up evidence against themselves in writing? Not only will their hardened hearts and depraved minds seal their sentencing against them, but also in testimony against them, but also their debates, posts, and comments, and their Twitter and their Facebook will be evidence against them.

God is judicial, line upon line. He gives witnesses, and bears witness, he confirms and gives confirmation, stacks of evidence and the kicker He gives it according to every personality, mentality, culture, and to every degree of educated.

He wrote it as simple as simple to the child, He wrote it mathematically and scientifically for the educated. He wrote it Spiritually to the perceptive and intuitive that chase after spiritism, He gave it to everyone in every language and in every culture. He didn't skip anyone. Even nature declares the Creator, so none have an excuse.

We all answer to Him regardless of the rock you crawl under.

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yes, sinner actually means "one who turns away from God". People still could and would. Even the Bible says, not ALL will enter the gates of Heaven.

Playing 'what IF games' is good for the imagination.

If your granny had testicles would she be your grandfather?

If IamSpartacus had brains would he be dangerous?

To which God are you referring in your profound, thought provoking question?

jeffreyone(1383) Disputed
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How can you be asking which God. Theres only one God. The rest are just creation claiming to be gods. like those fallen angels while there are more powerful angels serving God not claiming to be gods. Those fallen angels have no place to be so they decieve mankind with their nature which seem to be special abilities to us so we bow to them. Man is just limited in this flesh or else they wouldnt claim gods on us if we were in our real spiritual nature of God. And i guess you know what is costing us that right? SIN!!

4 points

Theres only one God. The rest are just creation claiming to be gods.

How do you know which one is the one God? Lots of people believe in something different than you with the exact same level of confidence, why are you right and they wrong?

2 points

It's pretty obvious that he is asking that because he doesn't believe in your religion.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
2 points

A lot of these guys are sodomites, they hate God and they hate Christians and they hate the Bible. They will hate you if you are living godly in Christ.

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He's creating straw men when he says "which god?", implying there is more than one god so none of them can be God the Creator of All Things.

Usually you waste your time with most atheists and religious people, but it is good practice for being ready to answer the ones who really are looking for the truth.

Most people here hate the truth and they desperately want the truth silenced.

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I don't see why they couldn't. People already do that now with normal humans

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That's assuming that god exists, which in itself, is a very unlikely and a contested view.

i dont believe people would honestly care. Course most won't believe that it is god, (given most traditional Christians believe Jesus is a republican white guy who is all for merica) while in reality he doesnt care about america, had many socialist views, and was an Arabian Jew.

So. Thats a thing.

jeffreyone(1383) Clarified
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why do you always relate everything to america in a debate? America is like a wayward child. No parenting. A child has to develop his or her own morality cos parents themselves lack it and parents who can, are in chains of constitution. America has no hope of morality. There are more demons in America than Angels.

Americans are the last people i expect to believe there is God. Demonically corrupted systems

Jupiter(116) Clarified
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oh. they do believe in god.

Twisted the meaning of the bible to hold there own fucked up views.

I live here, ive had Christianity pushed on me for years.

its bad

2 points

I for one would. I'd go f###ing ISIS terrorist level on that motherf###er's ass, I'd assassinate him so brutally and leave Jehovah as a witness.

Man! you need professional help.lol damn

How could you have said that?lol

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After saying that I'm sure he's on a government watch list now

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Whether God was in Human form or not people could still ignore God. Just read the Bible for proof and look at how we live our daily lives.

They could do whatever they want to do, but seeing God would have the same option to do what He wants, they don't have to have any power for long.

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People already are ignoring God today as time is going by. Anything that goes up against God's Word is basically obeying satan because satan wants to lead you astray

So all arguements conclude that, if the creator of all things The almighty God should settle down on earth in a nature in which all eyes both spiritually blind and sightful can see Him people will still turn to satan. Then there is no difference between He being here and not, if man will go ahead and sin(Turn away to satan) anyways. So then we cannot justify our sins by saying God is does not exist or We cannot see him or call it a myth in order to make all His commandments on sin also worthless .

People deny God cos they have judged themselves already that "the wages of sin is death"(real death or condemnation of your soul) then why dont you just surrender all for the gift of God which is eternal life. Right now as God has not come yet, He is the God of love so take advantage and repent now or else the day you fear is coming when He will come as the God of judgement. He is the judge who has given everyday for the thief so they can get the chance to repent. As the sowing days and growth days for the plant came to pass so is the reaping day inevitable. Make hay while the sun shines cos when God comes the sun shall be darkened

If God was in human form on earth as king, we would have the moral obligation to overthrow his divine dictatorship.

AngryNarwhal(30) Clarified
1 point

He could follow the Platonic concept of the penultimate Philosopher King. Democracy doesn't have some objective, inherent value over non-democratic systems, after all.

nobodyknows(745) Disputed
1 point

Neither do the commands of some cosmic despot have any objective value. God may have created us but it is a non sequitor to think that implies we have any obligation to obey his dictates. If morality comes from reason, as I believe it does, God is not necessarily a good God either. If he were to establish a divine North Korea here on earth, it would strongly imply that he is not good, but malevolent. It is an affront to human dignity to be the slave of any despot. Thus it is apparent to me that we would be justified to revolt.

Furthermore, the God of the Old Testament was obviously evil, if he were to assume the vulnerabilities of a human existence, I believe we would have the added obligation to try him for crimes against humanity. Would that not be deliciously poetic?

KNHav(1957) Disputed
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Why do skeptics feel the need to hinder faith, insisting on changing every reference to God. Do they think their atheism is the only "faith," that exists. Even overthrowing God, as if you could. FYI, Jesus laid down His life for us, no one took it!

Skeptics in fields of academia steer thought, it is militant anti Christianity, and anti God. Why do they feel as though they are authorities when they cant report anything from the other side?

They each will be accountable to God as stumbling blocks.

God is rebutting and debating with them. “Come let us reason together… as they harden their minds and hearts, God mocks them in their foolishness.

A.D. and B.C. Skeptics in academic studies try to redefine the universal timeline with a measure of matter of fact, as though one is precise and the traditional is dated and archaic.

I think it's kind of humorous, God mocks them from a timeline right under their noses.

He defines our times!

Is all of time divided by Pharoah or Cesar or Mohammad? No!

Jesus divides time just like in the Bible YHWH divides in the middle writing in both directions. With Jerusalem as a mid point! Do you think they made a deal with Assyria and other countries to make sure everyone followed this so it would eventually be authenticating of Biblical Divine signatory?

Western nations weren't even established when the TORH was written, yet it is prophesied and directed in the Word given to the custodians of His Word. This shows in a way how God watches over every letter and word of pertinent to the integrity of His entire Word to His children, Israel and the Church.

The curious, shocking, and equally amazing, not only is language divided by a midpoint of Jerusalem, God's design of chosen people, but this display crosses over the same book that the tower of Babel is told, which is about God confusing language in diversity, is it a coincidence? Then He perches on a timeline, and Jesus universally defines time, A.D and B.C.!

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All languages EAST of Jerusalem write Right to Left.

All languages WEST of Jerusalem write Left to Right.

We have this also - torh spelled reading in two directions in Hebrew. Backward and forward with YHWY in the middle.

Are There Hidden Codes

in the Biblical Text?

The secrets of the Torah are revealed... in the

skipping of the letters.

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49 (72) letter sequences:

• Genesis TORH - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern

• Exodus TORH - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern

• Leviticus ? YHWH in a 7 pattern, square root of 49

• Numbers HROT - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern

• Deuteronomy HROT - in Hebrew at a 49 letter interval pattern

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• Leviticus (in Intervals of 7) - YHWH

The Torah Always Points to YHWH!

The Torah Codes

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Then to have Jesus, the Jewish Messiah, told of throughout the TORH and all the Jewish prophets take His place and as told the Gospel goes out to the entire world.

And humorously, Jesus becomes the focus of the world, just like Jerusalem became a people in the center of people, Jesus becomes the definition of time itself.

Jesus divides time for our apponted times, dating our generations, uniting information and clarifying communication of peoples and nations, as our dating is in uniformly, while in the first instance language was scrambled to confuse man from their own efforts to Heaven, dividing time put peoples and nations on the same page regarding dating facts, and understanding prophesy. Even at four years off, we are still dating uniformly.

So then Jesus, who according to the Bible, appoints our days, our times, our events, our findings, and our years. It is as Jesus is sitting on the timeline, showing Himself as the definer of time.

Ironically, regarding skeptics who use universal dating, in fields skeptics gravitate and control, often with peer pressure to defy God, and to educate in purpose to disprove God, sit resentfully grappling with this glaring mockery of their blindness.

As skeptics scream, squirm, and fuss at it, attempting to rename it, and to redefine time by adding letters to invalidate Jesus, and give credibility to their disclaimers of God.

To me this to me seems like a visible example of how God mocks them!!

With a universal timeline placed throughout all out history, and right under their nose as He mocks them as fools in the fields of their skepticism.

These three crazy coincidences seem to confirm God as indisputable! By three witnesses related to each other. And this is only a drop in the bucket out of stacks of evidence proving God beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The world and languages go from reading left to right or right to left. Most written languages were in process of developing. Like time, written language is directed like a directors chair perched in Jerusalem.

The world and languages go from reading left to right or right to left. Most written languages were in process of developing. Like time, written language is directed like a directors chair perched in Jerusalem.

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1 point

So even when your claims are debunked, you just repeat them as if nothing ever happened?

nobodyknows(745) Clarified
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Yup. You win. This is too weird for me. Please don't come after me.

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If the god of the Hebrew bible was alive on Earth today he would be stoned to death for gross negligence.

For being an absentee landlord.

For allowing even his most devout worshipers to suffer. Why are the most religious states in the USA also the poorest? Why are the most religious countries in the world the poorest?

If god were alive on Earth he would be summarily impeached. He would be found guilty of mass murder; of ethnic cleansing; of murdering children (see: the Passover) and of admitting that he killed innocents. Like when he said he would lay his wrath on generations to come after finding somebody guilty of something that pissed him off.

If god were alive today he would be laughed at for his bad science. Seems that a modern day 10 year old knows more science than ol' Yahweh did. Otherwise, why would the nutjob Yahweh have thought he could stop the sun from moving in the sky (?) in order to allow his peoples more time to slaughter their enemy?

Satan would be shown to have been our TRUE friend after all. It would be shown that, contrary to the censored and edited bible stories, that Satan actually CHOSE to leave Heaven because he got sick and tired of the malevolent Yawheh unduly punishing mankind for petty and capricious reasons. Check the bible: Yahweh killed millions. Satan killed nobody.

If both were alive, after a long and thorough trial, Yah-Yah would be either imprisoned for life or executed, while Satan would be awarded a huge financial settlement for compensation for enduring slander and undue hardship and punishment.

Yahweh would go to prison and hire a writer to do his biography, called "If I Did It" which would deny that he did all this shit from the bible. But he would tell how he WOULD have done it, IF he did it. Like OJ did with his book. LOL

Satan would become a celebrity and do the talk show circuit, and also a millionaire from his lawsuit and awards for damages. Hell, (see what I did there?) he might even become President!

Yahweh would rot in prison.

Good riddance.

Justice would finally be served!

LOL

SS

jeffreyone(1383) Disputed
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I don't think you understand the word "GOD".

Please do you arrest obama while he is president?No? After he leaves office and becomes a normal human on your level .right?

But here is the case God was God before everything.

Before ; The First;tree,man,animal,angel and any other object.

All These mentioned ....he brought and designed into existence. You don't walk side ways but forwards because its his design. Angels move sideways(thats what will call it), forward and backwards because they have four faces and its God's design. And they are principles of God we obey everyday and cannot do anything about it. You obey God everyday.(Just natural principles)

And now he made laws. Those we chose to disobey. (alright)

And we you made your own systems most similar to his but most favouring our flesh.

laws are for creation. God is the creator.

There is no prison that can hold God. Infact no earthly prison can hold satan not to talk of God.

And if God is president, he was and is president before any existence(unlike the type of obama's).

He elected himself. And he does not deal with time. Time is for Creation .He is a creator.

Every law here on earth is stupidity in God's eyes and he just concerned cos he created us. laws are for the league of creation.

He made every metal in which metal are you going to imprison him with?

You cannot look God in the face(not even the angels can)not to talk of arresting him when he is not using this flesh. If God has our flesh then why is he God? This flesh is for only earth and God can Go to every planet.....so don't say such shit about arresting him.

And if someone is worshipping God is still poor, then they don't know what they are doing.

When jesus had to pay tax he did not beg for money. He took money outta the mouth of a fish .

when people he was preaching were hungry....he made bountiful food for them and some was still left.

when a prophet who died family was in debt and his son was about to go into slavery for that were provided for by God.

They only had little oil and God made them collect all jars from their neighbours ans filled it all up and the oil stopped flowing when the jars got finished.

King solomon was given riches when he asked for wisdom.

Moses fed his people with bread from the sky. And when they demanded meat when they got tired of bread, God made birds fly to their location and died droped from the sky so they could eat.

When they wanted water, he gave them water from a rock.

He is God the provider. He has the streets of gold. Gold is what we value here and God uses it as cement or tiles and walks on it.

Its not logic to worship God and be broke.

You can worship him with no money in your pocket but he is the provider.

He made water come outta a rock.

He manipulate hosts.

Matthew 7:7-8King James Version (KJV)7 Ask, and it shall be givenyou; seek, andye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:8 For every one that asketh receiveth; andhe that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

And ask with faith not with second thought.

Ask like you own an account in the bank of heaven cos you do.

So its not logical that they are poor.

I don't know who, what or how they were trained in their faith

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
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If God was alive on Earth today in human form, His name would be Jesus and your suggestion that He be stoned to death is pretty much what they did to Him (they tried to stone Him before they crucified Him)..then He conquered death offering them forgiveness of their sins. You are one of them, Slappy, your on the losing side fighting against God.

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I think God is proven, as science is grappling with these things, with a scientific awareness of properties related to time, and light and invisible dimensions, the microcosm, and macrocosm, and even the theorie of science is saying, our universe exists without a point of singularity, meaning the universe is finite. Which still what's on the other side?

And even in Steven Hawkins creative dome of "curved space" which he claims has properties able to cause it all to "create itself," from within itself, well what is in the microcosm?

How about common sense? These are all discussed by people without a particle accelerator!

All these concepts have been described in a book 1000s of years ago. For being a top notch physicist, how can you not ask if Biblical knowledge and concepts are curiously applicable, then why and how do these concepts make it into the Bible, but it doesn't just simply make it into the Bible. It's consistent through every writer, it is the entirety of its mrssage!

Some of the Bible authors expand the concepts even more than the others.

And then Jesus took these concepts out, and showed them expanded for understanding that surpassed their language and their advancements!

Giving understanding to the foolish Bible writers and God's people that confound the intelligent, and are just unraveling now to modern Quantum Physicists.

So I can see why God said over and over He will make fools of the wise and intelligent and make geniuses out of the simple.

Simply put, we understand Quantum Physics by the simple way of faith, and Quantum Physics took 6000 years to gain an outline of its complications.

Whereas by faith, we have lived it. So we understand it, by understanding simplicity, they are too smart to understand it even when the principles we have always known in faith have "come to light."

Maybe in some way, everything that is hidden comes to light, and those who love darkness can't experience light, is this property.

God will mock them by their own intelligence, as their own intelligence should have pointed them to the Creator, the Word of God, created all things.

So is it any wonder that Quantum Physics is strung through like connecting strings throughout the Bible?

The math is there, it is summed up in this, they choose to worship and serve the creature rather than the Creator, even though Creation itself confirms God so everyone of us is without excuse.

Aren't we seeing Creation itself confirming everything God ever said?

I think so!

That's when common sense then is more advanced then science!

If these Physics principles are true Mr Steven Hawkins of Physics Science, then how are they know by the ancient prophets?

There are several scriptures that say space has some density. According to scripture, Heaven (space) can be bent, can be shaken, rolled up, bent like a tent for God to enter and dwell in. Scripture has defined light as a property that transcends present and goes into past presents and future at one time.

Elijah in a battle shows dimensions to his servant by praying Lord show him, and the servant saw angels ready for battle. In an unseen, unknowable dimmmension.

Mathmatics?

The Bible is riddled with patterns of mathmatical proportions beyond their possible advancements!

Pi is found in the Hebrew numerical value of Genesis 1:1 the equation of advanced math "e" found in the Greek numeric value of John 1: 1 - Both of these scriptures announced Creation.

So to find advancements of math are indicative of purposeful design right in the 1st verses of both the old and new Testament are interesting to say the least!

And written language even its direction Hidden in the text showing both ways with YHWY in the middle in math equation of divisibility by the famous number "7" And these are just puzzle pieces, but they fit together like the are one picture scattered in pieces that undeniably are pieces of ONLY one picture.

How does that happen through 1000s of years and 66 writers that make up One Book? God's Word to mankind, in one Singularity, "One Bang" One - the smallest division that is the single point of Oneness, in Quantum Physics, is God in the microcosm?

It seems to me that the micro cosmetology is the point of Creation. We find God in a Kingdom of Light that is One. We are stones making up this One Kingdom, not divided against itself, because it is divided down to its oneness of division, where no division beyond it exists. ONE! The Lord our God is ONE!

Can you imagine when God unravels all his secrets hidden in the text, how foolish smart men like Steven Hawkins will be on that day?

And think about it, two languages used to write the Bible, Hebrew and in the time of Jesus Greek.

Two languages where each letter conveys three interpretive properties. multi- dimensional thought in writing!

letter value to form words, picture value for understanding concept, and numeric value to code writing in diversities as complicated as DNA coding. Which if applied may suggest digital coding, a hologram, living in a matrix with dimensions of unseen particles right next to us. Which some can perceive and others are dull to.

It's unusual when you look st the Bible from a prespective of God in physics and mathmatics.

And appearances of "ufos" are curious they seem to come and go through dimensions. Well the Bible talks about this in

I think this warfare mentioned in the Bible at the very least is hands down curious and to the wise should be investigated.

Even the Resurrection is a dimensional concept. And the Bible weirdly went out of its way to highlight these things. And science proves God everyday. Can we box God in by science, but because within this crazy book, every crazy science advancement is detailed!

So the common sense would be who told the guy without technology that Light is eternal and can be everywhere at once?

Or that right next to us are dimensional factors of presence that can't be seen with the physical eye, like in many places but Elijah is a good example?

Or that genes can be manipulated and cross mutated on purpose with creatures to make unnatural creation by manipulating basic natural creation?

Or that a hair on the head is knowing us, our individuality in a hair?

Or a transformation of our physical bodies by a twinkling of an eye which is speed of light as seen in photography, the speed of light that enters the pupil of the eye?

And the references to these, Like when Jesus says if the eye

has light the body is full of light. so we have Jesus describing

a transcending of dimension by Light in the eye, transforming our mortality to immortality, and in Thessalonians it's described as happening in a "twinkling"

How did they know the speed of light that transcends our physicality? Or time? Or the place where light in arc of direction is an eternal property. Where light speed is so fast that time stands still. Or that the theory of Quantum Physics shows what the Bible says the sword of His Word dividing to the smallest possible division.

Hebrews 4:12

For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

The whole Bible is physics. String Theory?

Hmm oneness?

The last final division possible in physical locality, results in non-locality, and it becomes one with everything.

How much is Oneness discussed in the Bible?

It's weird to have all these concepts rolled up and discussed exhaustingly from Genesis to Revelations!

Oneness, God, the Trinity, The Spirit within us, Oneness within us making communication with God possible by breaking down our physical consciousness and opening up our dimensional consciousness.

Oneness, able to communicate in subparticles in many degrees of division to the marrow! not through expansion out but in. The wheels in Ezekiel shining with eyes all around it, inside each other by way of projecting dimensions within dimensions.

God is found in the lowest possible division, where one singularity exists as a Kingdom that cannot divide against itself! Hello? Is God in Science? Well hasn't He described it all along?

What holds a Kingdom together, and what divides a Kingdom.

Matt 12

25 And knowing their thoughts Jesus said to them, “Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself will not stand.

26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then will his kingdom stand?

27 If I by Beelzebul cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? For this reason they will be your judges.

28 But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

29 Or how can anyone enter the strong man’s house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house.

30 He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters.

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