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If "Healthcare is a Right" then why is there a penalty or a fine ?
If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment. (The fee is sometimes called the "penalty," "fine," or "individual mandate.")
Percentage of income
2.5% of household income
Maximum: Total yearly premium for the national average price of a Bronze plan sold through the Marketplace
Per person
$695 per adult
$347.50 per child under 18
Maximum: $2,085
If one can't afford healthcare how is one going to pay the fine ? So "healthcare is not a right" as the Left claims it is.
If "Healthcare is a Right" then why is there a penalty or a fine ?
The Leftist argument that healthcare is a right is debunked by Obamacare. Leftist just can't help it that they are confused !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone knows why the Individual Mandate is there. It's widely reported (and was at the time) why it was there, and any form of rudimentary google search of terms such as "Why is there Individual Mandate?" Will generate a plethora of useful and well written articles explaining why the individual mandate is part of Obamacare.
So, given how the mandate is pretty clear, and the reasons for it are trivially accessible it means that
A.) you're either too lazy to google it:
In which case, the answer to your question is easily obtainable.
B.) You're too stupid to understand the reasons as described in any article.
In which case, feel free to let me know what part of the mandate you don't understand and I'll be willing to try and walk you through it.
C.) You googled it, you understood why it's there; but you're playing dumb to try and make a rhetorical point.
If this is the case, rather than deliberately (and somewhat dishonestly) hiding your point with veiled language, rhetorical language and weasel words; can you explain what this hidden rhetorical point actually is, please?
Of course. However, I'm failing to see what your point is?
Well actually, I think I know what your point is; but I think it's rude to assume you're an idiot so would prefer to hear it straight from the horses mouth.
When people say "Healthcare is a right", and hold placards claiming "Healthcare is a right" and write to their representatives saying "we think that healthcare is a right"....
Do you think this statement, and the statement that "Healthcare is a right" means:
Healthcare is currently legally recognized as a fundamental right under the US constitution?
Where is healthcare recognized as a fundamental right ? And under that fundamental right does it say one should be fined for that fundamental right ? Quote what you know
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Look.. We're been here before.. You didn't know where the right to gay marriage was, and yet, gays have the right to marry..
The part you DON'T understand is that our great country wasn't founded FULLY FORMED. It takes YEARS, and we're NOT there yet.. I don't think we EVER will be.
I dunno WHY you don't understand that, but you clearly DON'T.
Equivocation: In logic, equivocation is an informal fallacy resulting from the use of a word in multiple senses throughout an argument leading to a false conclusion.
The equivocation your argument is relying upon, and you are refusing to acknowledge or justify is the word "right" in
"Healthcare is a right"
When everyone ELSE uses the word in this context, it means "it is a natural or ethical right, but one that is not yet a legally recognised right"
In your argument, you are using it to mean "a legally recognised right".
Failure to clarify your position, and ignoring me pointing out the logical flaw with deflection and diversion seems to indicate that you are being willfully dishonest in your misportrayal of the argument at hand.
You should really ask yourself how valid can you argument be if you are relying on dishonesty to support it.
Again, that is a nice sentiment; but is a non-sequitur as it is completely unrelated to anything we've just said.
Are you actually interested in, say, having a discussion on this? Or are you simply going to respond with an stream of unrelated propaganda based on equivocation, distortion and misrepresentation?
If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment. (The fee is sometimes called the "penalty," "fine," or "individual mandate.")
So if you can't afford the healthcare then how are you going to afford the fines ?
If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment. (The fee is sometimes called the "penalty," "fine," or "individual mandate.")
So if you can't afford the healthcare then how are you going to afford the fines ?
If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment. (The fee is sometimes called the "penalty," "fine," or "individual mandate.")
Pay careful attention to the key word in the above statement and it's your time to shine
If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment. (The fee is sometimes called the "penalty," "fine," or "individual mandate.")
Pay careful attention to the "key" word in the above statement and it's your time to shine
Perhaps you should try visiting CreateWaveMyPenisAtPeople.com; it may be a better place for you as it seems you want a safe-space where you can act like an idiot and cower away from tough questions such as "do you even know what you're talking about?"
In the mean time, why don't you act like a grown up and actually google what you're complaining about. A good place to start would be here:
If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment. (The fee is sometimes called the "penalty," "fine," or "individual mandate.")
Pay careful attention to the "key" word in the above statement and it's your time to shine.
If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment. (The fee is sometimes called the "penalty," "fine," or "individual mandate.")
See the scroll bar on the side of this window. Click it and move it upwards until you see the post where I posted what is called a "link" you can tell it's a link because it shows in blue.
Click on this, and a new page will open. It will have a number of black markings and shapes in the screen: these are called "words". If you can read them properly, they explain everything you just asked, in its entirety,
If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment. (The fee is sometimes called the "penalty," "fine," or "individual mandate.")
So if you can't afford the healthcare then how are you going to afford the fines ?
But you said:-
If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee
You said nothing about being fined for not being able to afford it. You literally just turned your own reasoning on its head in the space of a single sentence. What you just wrote is the logical equivalent of:-
If you murder someone but choose not to admit it you go to jail for longer.
So how are you going to deal with extended prison time for not murdering someone?
Just bizarre. It's like you're sitting there in your underpants, bashing this nonsense out inbetween building crystal meth hits.
If you can afford health insurance but choose not to buy it, you must pay a fee called the individual shared responsibility payment. (The fee is sometimes called the "penalty," "fine," or "individual mandate.")
Now pay attention can you do that ? What is the key word in the above statement ? Time for you to shine LeatherHead
Healthcare IS a right... You can find it in the 9th Amendment.. It just hasn't been fully incorporated into our system yet.. But, the SIGNS are unmistakable.. You need look no further than the fact that right wingers absolutely CANNOT, repeal Obamacare..
Why is one fined if they cannot afford healthcare ? Healthcare is not a right if one is fined for not having it. HEALTHCARE.gov does not refer to the 9th Amendment DUMMY again you are shown to be a FOOL.
You're fined because your right to healthcare hasn't been fully incorporated into our system yet.. Should I say it again?? Look.. I get that you don't understand me.. I can't help that..
My name is puddin tame.. Ask me again, and I'll tell you the same..
Ten House Democrats will unveil a new plan to fix Obamacare, highlighting the parts of the law that have struggled to work and offering modest steps to improve them. The proposal includes more funding to help insurance plans cover the sickest patients, along with possibly changing the timing of the open enrollment season in hopes of attracting more Americans to sign up for insurance.
These Democrats are agitating for a new strategy, one where they speak openly about the health law’s weak spots — particularly the individual market — and how to shore them up. The party has so far been reticent to highlight Obamacare’s problems at a moment when Democrats are fighting against Republican efforts to repeal parts of the law.
I think we "fixed" Social Security 226 times.. We "fixed" Medicare 100's of times.. We fix our tax system time and time again... Why, oh why do you think Obamacare came out of the can perfect in every way???? Democrats don't think that..
NOW, let's get DOWN to it... Since the right wing BLEW their chances to repeal Obamacare, the door OPENED for single payer.. And, that's how we're gonna FIX it once and for all..
Healthcare is not a right. And before you slap the standard anti-liberal paragraph on me read that again. And go back and read everything I ever posted on this topic. I've always said it's not a right.
Healthcare for all is an aspiration. It's nice to have if we can find a way to have it and pay for it. We haven't found that way yet. It doesn't get to become an automatic right just because you think it would be nice.
Hey, people don't have automatic rights to a roof over their heads, or food, or water, or even a breath of oxygen. What good does it do to declare they can get whatever medical care they want, but then kick them out onto the street to starve and freeze? If health is a right then you'd have to make all those other needs rights, too, and then you've truly gone to the furthest end of the left of the political spectrum. We're not there yet and we're nowhere close to going there.
Right wingers march in lock step.. Liberals don't.. Liberal/centrist Grenace doesn't think healthcare is a right... Liberal excon does.
Look... You don't understand.. You don't WANNA understand.. You wanna go on, and on, and on and even on again, about the same thing. But, this ISN'T difficult, and you can't get it, so I'm gonna stop right here..
You have not to this point proven healthcare is a right nor can you. Healthcare being a right by the 9th Amendment should have been proven 200 years ago. But why was it not?
All you got BOY are Progressive talking points that hold ZERO merit !!!!!!!!!
