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FOX has their groove back Trump can do no wrong
Debate Score:36
Arguments:23
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If Obama founded ISIS, FOX News says Trump is the REFOUNDER of ISIS

FOX has their groove back

Side Score: 14
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Trump can do no wrong

Side Score: 22
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Isis came into existence as a result of a power vacuum created when GWB invaded and occupied Iraq and completely upended the balance of power in the middle east. He was repeatedly warned by dozens of knowledgeable professional military and civilian people that he was making a mistake by invading Iraq but he completely ignored all advice and sent our military into that quagmire and sent over FOUR THOUSAND American soldiers to their deaths (in addition to coalition soldiers deaths) and caused tens of thousands more to live with permanent life long injuries.

Not a single 9/11 hijacker was from Iraq.

Saddam was contained but Bush claimed that he wanted to kill Saddam because "he tried to kill my daddy".

Side: FOX has their groove back
outlaw60(14189) Disputed
1 point

https://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-years-jv-team-international-killers/story?id=40214844

Pay attention there Rusty so you can learn okay !!!!!!!!!

The deadly attack in the Istanbul airport late Tuesday, suspected to be the work of the ISIS, comes as the terrorist group today marks the second anniversary of the declaration of its Islamic “caliphate,” or kingdom.

In that time, the group has gone from obscurity, mocked by President Barack Obama as a terrorist “JV team,” to the world’s most brutal terrorist network, not only responsible for thousands of deaths in the Middle East but also linked to hundreds more in dozens of terrorist plots in the West.

Reported by ABC News and linked for your enjoyment !!!!!!!!!!

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

Yes Con. We know that Fox News isn't participating in the level of political hackery as MSNBC and CNN. This isn't news. I watch all 3 to try and piece together something that resembles real news.

As for ISIS, either you are admitting Obama created ISIS, or you don't believe it, but will be blaming Trump for a theoretical future even that hasn't happened nonetheless.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
excon(11528) Disputed
1 point

As for ISIS, either you are admitting Obama created ISIS, or you don't believe it,

Hello again, bront:

In the REAL world, ISIS was founded during the Bush administration by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. But, don't let history get in your way..

DUDE!

excon

Side: FOX has their groove back
Bronto(2005) Disputed
1 point

So Obama didn't create ISIS, thus Trump didn't either. Looks like you worked out your own question. I'm proud of you. I have a surprise for you. It's in my pocket.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
outlaw60(14189) Disputed
1 point

Another day and SUPER STUPID speaks not knowing any facts !!!!!!!!!!!

The deadly attack in the Istanbul airport late Tuesday, suspected to be the work of the ISIS, comes as the terrorist group today marks the second anniversary of the declaration of its Islamic “caliphate,” or kingdom. In that time, the group has gone from obscurity, mocked by President Barack Obama as a terrorist “JV team,” to the world’s most brutal terrorist network, not only responsible for thousands of deaths in the Middle East but also linked to hundreds more in dozens of terrorist plots in the West.

ISIS currently controls thousands of square miles in Iraq and Syria, though the U.S. military says the group been pushed out of swaths of land, especially in Iraq, since a territorial high point in late summer 2014.

In January of that year in a New Yorker profile, Obama made the “JV team” remark. Administration officials have since said it was not specifically about ISIS but about various extremist groups.

At the time, ISIS was not a household name. Even when the group declared its “caliphate” on June 29, 2014, in an audio message, relatively few in the West outside counterterrorism circles took notice — though the rare public appearance of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in Mosul, Iraq, a few days later raised some eyebrows.

But that August, American journalist James Foley was murdered on camera by a black-clad ISIS fighter.

As reported by ABC News and linked !!!!!!!!!!

https://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-years-jv-team-international-killers/story?id=40214844

Side: Trump can do no wrong
outlaw60(14189) Disputed
1 point

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/260202-white-house-on-defense-over-claim-that-isis-contained

The White House has been forced onto the defense over President Obama’s claim that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has been “contained” — a statement that came one day before the group carried out the deadliest massacre in France in a generation.

"We have contained them,” Obama said in an interview with ABC News that aired on Thursday. “I don’t think they’re gaining strength.”

The following day, a series of coordinated terror attacks killed 129 people across Paris in the country's deadliest episode since World War II.

The attacks forced the White House to defend the comments, which appeared to confirm critics’ suspicions that Obama has consistently underestimated ISIS. More than one year ago, Obama appeared to liken ISIS to al Qaeda’s “JV team” in a comment that has been repeatedly mocked by the president’s critics.

MORON if you had a BRAIN you would not know how to use it !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Trump can do no wrong
ViceVega(20) Disputed
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Spot(101) Disputed
2 points

Fallacy of libs appealing to liberal authority. It's circular appeals. Liberal Subject 1 appeals to liberal Subject 2, who appeals to liberal subject 3, who appeals back to liberal subject 1. Now, liberal Subject 4 (you), appeals to them all.

The opposite can be done. Info Wars says the opposite and quoted Breitbart, who quoted Fox News, who quoted Info Wars, who then quoted them back. I then quote them.

It's more Marxist tactics and nonsense.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
Warjiin(52) Disputed
1 point

We know that Fox News isn't participating in the level of political hackery as MSNBC and CNN.

This is a correct statement. I watch all 3.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
JugsNThugs(159) Disputed
1 point

MSNBC is a news organization that has been the focus of several controversies. It has been accused by academics, media figures, political figures, and watchdog groups of having various biases in their news coverage as well as more general views of a liberal bias.

Among Republicans and those who lean Republican, CNN was considered the most biased news organization, with a -87 bias rating. Meanwhile, Democrats and those who lean Democratic gave CNN a +29.

Your source.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
Binkle(33) Disputed
1 point

I can predict without error the positions CNN and MSNBC will take on any issue. Fox News agrees with Trump sometimes and disagrees other times. That tells the real story.

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

No one said Obama founded ISIL you FUCKIN IDIOT the NIGGER dismissed their threat!

How many GODDAMN times do you need to shown for the FUCKIN FOOL you are ?

The White House has been forced onto the defense over President Obama’s claim that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) has been “contained” — a statement that came one day before the group carried out the deadliest massacre in France in a generation.

"We have contained them,” Obama said in an interview with ABC News that aired on Thursday. “I don’t think they’re gaining strength.”

The following day, a series of coordinated terror attacks killed 129 people across Paris in the country's deadliest episode since World War II.

The attacks forced the White House to defend the comments, which appeared to confirm critics’ suspicions that Obama has consistently underestimated ISIS. More than one year ago, Obama appeared to liken ISIS to al Qaeda’s “JV team” in a comment that has been repeatedly mocked by the president’s critics.

Linked from a Left Wing site !!!!!!

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/260202-white-house-on-defense-over-claim-that-isis-contained

Side: Trump can do no wrong
1 point

RESIDENT IDIOT you need to seriously try to stay away from CNN and MSLSD because the likes of Mika and Morning Joke are rotting what little bit of brain you have left !!!!

Side: Trump can do no wrong