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Invest in INFRASTRUCTURE Lower taxes??
Debate Score:36
Arguments:31
Total Votes:39
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If YOU were the government, HOW would you INCREASE demand?

Hello:

If my customers could get to my business FASTER and SMOOTHER, and my raw materials could get to my business FASTER and SMOOTHER, and I could operate my business FASTER and SMOOTHER my costs would go DOWN, and demand for my product would go up..

The government could DO that by INVESTING in infrastructure..  Fast trains, good airports, speedy internet, smooth roads and safe bridges are GOOD for business. 
Lowering my taxes would put money in my pocket, and that's fine..  But, it would NOT help my business.. Tell me how I'm wrong.

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Invest in INFRASTRUCTURE

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The US government used to understand that investment in infrastructure would make our future better and more secure. Ever since the days of Reagan, me, me, me, now, now, now has inflated the debt with jack to show for it.

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The answer is common sense, don't be a libtard socialist and don't be a far right neonazi, that way you can cut taxes AND invest in infrastructure.

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Trump IS GOING TO INVEST IN INFRASTRUCTURE! He's going to build a "Great Wall" with OUR infrastructure money, while Ghina is building THEIR infrastructure ... again, with OUR money, sent to Ghina by Walmart (and the other companies forced TO buy from Ghina to compete). A YUGE amount of Trump's own products are "made in Ghina", while HE screams about "trade imbalance" ... loudly, but, ineffectively. Does anyone find anything confusing about this picture??

You HAVE to give Trump a chance! After he sells U.S. to Ghina, you can use the money THEY give you to grow your business! Simply Trump-dilyicious! "The Art of the DEAL"! You gotta believe! ;-(

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Effective government is balance. It takes a combination of investment and cost cutting, new taxes and tax cuts, etc. If it were as simple as do one thing all out gonzo and you're good to go then there would be a hundred nations out there already doing that one thing and shining like stars because of it. They're not, because it isn't that simple. It takes a balance.

Personally, I think both the government and it's citizens are stifled by absurdly massive debt and the greatest thing ALL of us can do is find a way to ease that debt burden. Then, both the government AND its people would have their hands untied to increase demand. But it doesn't happen overnight. In essence all we do is keep kicking the can further down the road with more and more debt, looking for that temporary increase now even though we all have to pay for it later.

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Well, firstly having travelled the country extensively for many years I would attest that America has one of the best transport systems, including road, rail and flight networks in the world.

The task of applying the optimum rate of tax is a real dilemma as, by reducing tax you provide the wage earner with greater disposable income but a portion of this would probably be spent on foreign goods and produce thus sucking in more imports-adding to the ever worsening trade gap.

Increase taxation and many people lose their spirit for hard work when they feel their earnings are being swallowed up by the state.

If we assume that income tax is set in or around the correct pitch then the predicament is how to best allocate this tax revenue.

Welfare vs education vs defence vs infrastructure vs policing and so forth.

American citizens should aggressively seek out goods and produce MADE IN AMERICA, preferably, MADE BY AMERICAN COMPANIES.

America should use its tremendous economic power to lead the way in having the trading nations of the world create a global system of tax which would eliminate the greedy corporations deceitfully arranging their affairs so they pay their corporation tax in countries where an artificially low rate is applied.

Everyone must chip in, the worker, the executive and the multi-national corporations.

Once this is achieved, if ever it is, then the prudence of the people and politicians of United States would ensure the continuance of the policy of upgrading the nation's infrastructure.

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I'm puzzled at why you were downvoted, here. I find this to be a good post, and what's more, I can't disagree. You make some wise points in it.

In case you're wondering - or anybody is - I upvoted it.

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If my customers could get to my business FASTER and SMOOTHER, and my raw materials could get to my business FASTER and SMOOTHER, and I could operate my business FASTER and SMOOTHER my costs would go DOWN, and demand for my product would go up

If libs have their way, you won't have a business, you didn't build that, and your fathers stole it to begin with. Cheers.

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If libs have their way, you won't have a business

YES BRONTO! Dem big bad librels! And don't even get me started on da Mooslims! They always be bringing dat Jihad when I be just innocently goose-stepping down to my local KKK meeting!!

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Aaaaaaah....sniff sniff. Is that desperation with nerry a rebuttle because you have no rebuttle that I smell? Indeed it is... excellent.

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The government could DO that by INVESTING in infrastructure..  Fast trains, good airports, speedy internet, smooth roads and safe bridges are GOOD for business

Obama did none of those things, you didn't care because he talked nice and wasn't "white" (despite having a white mother. However that works..) ,and we are now $20 trillion in debt somehow with nothing to show for it.

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Obama did none of those things

Do ya wanna know what Bush did? Lemme show ya.

Donald Rumsfeld announces 2.3 Trillion missing from the Pentagon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

And when did he announce this spectacular news?

Oh yes. The day before 9/11.

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Do ya wanna know what Bush did? Lemme show ya.

Not really. He's my second favorite person to trash. Point of fact, I trash the globalist ass clown a lot. Nice attempt to dodge defending Obama though. Red herrings are great...

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EldonG(530) Disputed
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Yes, I do care. He irritated me to no end with all of his pretty speeches and his inability to actually accomplish any of the things I wanted to see him do. Of course, it was Mitch McConnell and company blocking him most of the time - but he never simply used an executive order for shit I wanted, and I never expected him to...he was corporate owned from the beginning, after all.

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Lowering my taxes would put money in my pocket, and that's fine..  But, it would NOT help my business.. Tell me how I'm wrong.

So...you'd rather the money went "in your pocket" through your business rather than directly "in your pocket" as an individual citizen. Makes sense....

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