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If a Child is born a biological boy, but then thinks he is a girl, which do we believe?
Do we believe what we see before our very eyes, what nature has created in the mothers womb, or are we suppose to believe the Progressive Left who tells us if we say anything contrary to this person's claims of being a girl, we are labeled homophobes or judgemental intolerant hatemongers. Do you see how the Left works? They demonize anyone who dares believe differently from the collective.
We now have Progressive corporations tied to Left wing politicians who intimidate states to pass the Progressive Transgender laws allowing men in women's locker rooms. If they refuse, they will face losing these Corporations in their states. SCARE TACTICS, INTIMIDATION! This is how the Left works!
The LBGT activists & those on the Left will jump through hoops to blindly accept that any unnatural abnormal behavior is no longer considered a disorder as once believed by the medical community. Today you might be sued for believing such things.
Rather than dealing with the disorder in a Transgender person, those on the Left will now blindly believe anything a child says, and allow years of expensive painful sex change operations rather than dealing with possible mental issues.
In this political correct nation where we can no longer say normal and abnormal, natural or unnatural, we must all be forced to accept the Left's sick twisted beliefs that if a person says it, it must be ok and normal.
Funny thing about these hypocrites and phoney's on the Left. They seemingy have all the compassion in the world for any unnatural sexual orientation, but when it comes to special needs Babies, where is their tolerance and open mindedness for diversity?
When a Baby has Down Syndrome (special olympic kids) what does the Left do? Do they celebrate his diversity and special traits?
NO! They do tests for late term mothers to determine if the Baby has down syndrome. They do these tests for one main reason.... to abort that special needs Baby if the mothers wants to do so. There is no tolerance for his special traits. They have no compassion for the fact he is born that way...... they want to make it as easy as possible to rid this nation of these special needs kids. They don't celebrate his uniqueness. They don't label those who sanction aborting these children as Downsphobic. No, they actually do tests to keep as many of these Babies from being born as possible.
I wonder if there were a test for homosexuality in unborn Babies. What would the left say if there were groups who supported aborting them? The Left is so quick to judge a Down syndrome Baby's so called disorder. They spend no time protecting his diversity & right to life. Those on the Right have the simple compassion and love to never support KILLING people with unnatural sexual orientations. We believe in respecting all innocent life no matter their differences.
The utter hypocrisy and double standards of Progressives and the Left is astounding! They have the compassion of animals! The Left loves to celebrate unnatural sexual orientations but when it comes to Babies who will not be as intelligent as the Left deems fit, it is ok to end their lives.
This whole transgender law is about ignoring what you see with your eyes. If someone walks into a woman's bathroom dressed as a woman they appear to be a woman. The transgender law says to ignore that and inspect the genitalia instead.
FromWithin only cares about this issue because we have introduced laws allowing transgender people to use the bathroom. Oh wait. The law that was passed was against transgenders. So, FromWithin is full of shit yet again. Is it bad that he can't even keep straight who is creating what law?
I'm acting like a person who is telling you that you're a weirdo. You're the one who invented my "hatred" for happy people. That's idiosyncratic behavior form you, and idiosyncrasy is one of the ways weirdos manifest themselves in this world.
I'm acting like a person who is telling you that you're a weirdo.
While being a weirdo.
You're the one who invented my "hatred" for happy people.
I have read your posts. You hate gay people. It's not my fault that I point it out.
That's idiosyncratic behavior form you, and idiosyncrasy is one of the ways weirdos manifest themselves in this world.
Stop pretending like I am the one with the problem. You have already admitted that you have no reason to have the hatred that we all know you have. If you have no reason to hate people, why do you still hate them?
That's not up to a weirdo stalker to decide. Meaning you.
I have read your posts. You hate gay people. It's not my fault that I point it out.
Sure it's not your fault. I don't blame you for your condition. Do try to find a single post which proves that I hate happy people. Or, if you are misusing the word "gay" (but for some reason shy away from that) - a single post of mine which evidences my "hatred" for homosexuals. Do it to help yourself, I personally don't need to prove what I already know.
Stop pretending like I am the one with the problem.
Ok, whatever. Not contradicting you.
You have already admitted that you have no reason to have the hatred that we all know you have. If you have no reason to hate people, why do you still hate them?
When you say "we", do you mean all those voices in your head? Don't listen to them. They tell you that I hate people, but ask yourself, what does this really mean?
I based it on you not having a reason to do the things you do.
See, that's the problem. You are so sure that I have "hatred" for homosexuals, but you don't have a single piece of evidence. That's what they call idiosyncrasy.
So, even if I am using the word gay wrong, you still won't admit your overwhelmingly obvious hatred for homosexuals.
Even if I admitted that, in order to calm you down, it still wouldn't mean I have said "hatred" for homosexuals. I seriously dislike their activist movement, but it encompasses many straight people too. I dislike it because I think it's dirty politics thriving on a grievous condition. And that it generally discredits the very idea of human rights, which are a big problem in Russia. It's not a good thing when a doctor discredits the type of medicine he is using. The patient here being my country.
It means you should stop hating people or come up with an actual reason to hate them.
No. I was implying that it's your projection. That's what voices often mean.
You are so sure that I have "hatred" for homosexuals, but you don't have a single piece of evidence.
I thought you would admit your hatred for homosexuals. If you aren't already convinced of your hatred for homosexuals there is no real reason to present the massive amounts of evidence to you. You will just continue to claim that you don't hate homosexuals. My evidence is what you write on this website. You know better than anyone what you write on here, but you haven't figured out your hate yet. Me repeating what you have already said will not change your mind.
Even if I admitted that, in order to calm you down, it still wouldn't mean I have said "hatred" for homosexuals.
So, you are a liar. How often do you lie?
I seriously dislike their activist movement, but it encompasses many straight people too.
You hate them and their movement.
I dislike it because I think it's dirty politics thriving on a grievous condition.
Actually, the movement is combating the dirty politics thriving on a benign condition.
And that it generally discredits the very idea of human rights, which are a big problem in Russia.
You have a human rights problem in Russia because you have everything backwards about human rights.
No. I was implying that it's your projection. That's what voices often mean.
And I was implying that the voices in my head are right and you need to live your life without hating others.
I thought you would admit your hatred for homosexuals.
Sorry, I don't play those games. I either have hatred for them, or I don't, and the latter is true.
If you aren't already convinced of your hatred for homosexuals there is no real reason to present the massive amounts of evidence to you.
So far you've presented a massive amount of evidence, to that fact that you're unable to back up your idiosyncratic claims. Just one quote form my "hateful" posts would have sufficed. Instead you choose to type out ten times as much text, devoted to some laughable NLP -ish garbage. "Admit your hatred", seriously?
So, you are a liar. How often do you lie?
It's OK to lie in order to calm down an over agitated psychopath. Luckily, that is a very rare occurrence, all the more so in real life.
You hate them and their movement.
Keep telling yourself that, if that's your kind of thing.
Actually, the movement is combating the dirty politics thriving on a benign condition.
Well, only one of our statements can be true. I have enough proof of mine, but I'm sure you won't be able to read into it, in your current state.
You have a human rights problem in Russia because you have everything backwards about human rights
No, we have a human rights problem in Russia, because a kleptocracy was installed in the 90-s, under the guise of "democracy". Orchestrated by the KGB, and with loads of help from your government, at least some "elitist" parts of it linked to the CIA. Later, the pseudo-liberal entourage could no longer be used by the kleptocrats, and they switched to pseudo-patriotism (Putin's reign). The reality under the facade is horrible. And you're actively helping Putin, by adding BS to the noble ideas of freedom and liberty. It's a recent development, which I stand strongly against.
And I was implying that the voices in my head are right and you need to live your life without hating others.
I hate Putin and the corrupt law enforcement officials which he is covering up for. I don't think that's such a bad thing.
It's not a matter of being politically correct, it's a matter of simply being correct. You are using that term as if it's some generic insult. That's dumb. You, the guy who is playing the "gay only means happy" card, are misusing other words. Seems strange.
You are using that term as if it's some generic insult
I used it twice in this debate, and I was right both times. Just saying "dumb" will not suffice, try to prove me wrong if you don't want to look dumb yourself.
You, the guy who is playing the "gay only means happy" card, are misusing other words.
I'm not playing any card, I'm using the word in it's proper, non-slang, sense.
The most commonly misused words regarding mental health, in my experience: Psycho (in general), psychopath vs sociopath, and "insane" (issues with the legal nature of that word aside), followed by schizophrenic, obsessive compulsive disorder, depression and ADD.
I believe that I'm under using the word, on this site. Well, it's very rare for a psychopath to admit that he is one.
Calling Cartman psychopathic was quite merited. He's either a psycho, or a troll playing a psycho - so it made sense to draw his attention to this. Though psychopathy is a rather generic term comprising several conditions, idiosyncrasy is one of its classical symptoms.
"It's sexual predatory when adults sway these kids in the "gay" direction by introducing the absurd notion of "inborn gayness", and the other shit that goes with it."
So teaching kids that sexuality is innate is being sexually predatory.
"Gay teen = shitty parents. Parents should pay atention to what happens to their kids. They should prevent them from getting these silly ideas."
"Sure you'll tell me "they're proud of being what they are". Well this "incorrect" thing defines what they are. If they're not allowed to do it, I bet they'll whine about opression."
I could go on, but these quotes (and the many others) are indicative of a few things: You think homosexuality is a choice, that their sexuality defines who they are, and that you think many/most of them are sexual predators simply because they tell kids they exist, and you actively support laws that limit their right to even say that homosexuality isn't a choice in Russia, not to mention actively wanting to deny civil and Constitutional equality for homosexuals within the United States.
Come on. This whole "I don't hate gays" thing isn't convincing anyone.
So teaching kids that sexuality is innate is being sexually predatory.
Yes, exactly. Introducing such ideas to kids, who are over-sexualised and usually do not posess ample critical skills, is akin to sexual predatory. This whole shitty "science" was invented by Alfred Kinsey, who had been working in close contact with real pedophiles, and collecting his "data" form them. And he was a close friend of one of them, a notorious Nazi criminal, Dr. Fritz Von Balluseck.
You think homosexuality is a choice that their sexuality defines who they are
This whole "choice / not a choice" rhetoric is full of shit. It exploits an obviously false dichotomy. Tell me, did you choose to speak English? Or were you born an English speaking person?
When I said "it defines what they are" - I was quoting the phrase which is being constantly used by their activists: "It makes them who they are". So don't blame me.
and that you think many/most of them are sexual predators simply because they tell kids they exist
I'm calling bullshit on that. You've managed to misquote me in a single post, while directly contradicting yourself. LGBT activists would have been proud of you!
and you actively support laws that limit their right to even say that homosexuality isn't a choice in Russia
Yep, that's true. Just like I don't support their "right" to tell kids that smoking is completely harmless. Words can kill, and our freedom of speech ends when said speech can directly harm others.
Regarding that Russian law - it's wording sucks, but the intent is right.
not to mention actively wanting to deny civil and Constitutional equality for homosexuals within the United States.
They already have civil and Constitutional equality. 4 out of 9 Supreme Court judges thought the same. Redefining "marriage" to suit a special interests group, has nothing to do with human rights or the Constitution. Appealing to the 14th amendment in order to achieve that, was an example of logical fallacy by the Supreme Court, and sets a precedent which could have very negative consequences.
Last but not least: non of this means that I "hate gays".
Gender dysphoria is a symptom of a generally unsound mental condition. The victim will most likely have had already been exposed to indoctrination from psychopaths, which present themselves (or believe that they are) "educators". If the condition progresses further, the victim is likely to attempt so-called "sex change" surgery. The post-transaction suicide rate for such persons is higher than 60%. The suicide attempts usually take place several years after the so-called transaction is complete.
There are tons of conservatives on this site mocking liberals. I didn't think it would be this way on here. They seem to think that liberals have to be stupid and brainwashed. I really think this is the wrong way to approach the other side. When you respond with a reasonable argument, they just say how ignorant you are and you should just accept the "facts".
Signs on doors don't prevent rape. It is already illegal to rape someone in a bathroom. We will never be able to outlaw absolutely everything that could maybe lead to rape.
Well if some man claiming to be a girl raped some straight 13 year old then what could you say about that. Nobody deserves to be raped. If he is a boy then he is a boy!
First of all I am not calling all transgender people rapist! Second of all we could prevent many crimes because I am a girl and you have to think of all threats.
Preventing people from going into a bathroom will not prevent any extra crime. It is already illegal to attack you in a bathroom. Do you think your rapist will think rape is ok but entering the bathroom isn't? That's the stopping point for a rapist?
No, it is retarded to think that a rapist will follow the bathroom rules and not the rape rules. There aren't any armed guards outside the restroom. Adding an extra rule for the rapist to break does not slow the rapist down at all.
Yeah, that good old purse defense. That's been protecting women for decades. The only way the woman hitting the guy with a purse will prevent danger is if the guy was never a danger.
I believe that if someone is a biological boy, then by nature of his biology, he is a boy. No amount of thinking to the contrary will change that. Things like hormone pills and what clothes you wear won't even change it completely. By nature, he would still be a boy. As a male myself, I could start taking hormone pills, dress like a girl, and maybe get female organs. That will never make me a girl. I would never have periods and I may be able to give birth, but I will still, by nature, be a guy. Since I was born a guy, I would have to change who I am on the genetic level to be a girl by nature.
I believe that if someone is a biological boy, then by nature of his biology, he is a boy. No amount of thinking to the contrary will change that
But this is about the difference between sex and gender. You are correct that, in terms of sex, he will remain male. But "thinking" does indeed change gender.
No I do not, as there are no stats published on it.
Think about it.
A woman files sexual assault charges. Or rape charges.
There are a few different options available as to the possible outcomes.
The Alleged perp is convicted.
He is acquitted in court.
The case never gets to court. ...gee, I wonder why this happens so often?
In the latter, she either settled OOC...getting that money she wanted in the first place, like with Kobe....or she dropped charges.
So...in any and all of these cases the Alleged rapist could have been innocent.
We never know. Obviously no stats are kept.
But I am sticking with my OP.
Women again, are taught from the gitgo how to retaliate, or what we call Deflect when confronted or as a passive aggressive tactic. Since they obviously are inferior physically and cannot carry out retaliation via those means.
They, say, give some Big male friend of theirs a bj to beat up some guy she was crazy about and let fuck her, but who dumped her.
They key their cars.
They tell their girlfriends or wives about an affair or even a brief assignation.
No I do not, as there are no stats published on it.
Off to a good start.
Think about it.
I have, and your assumption is absurd.
A woman files sexual assault charges. Or rape charges.
There are a few different options available as to the possible outcomes.
The Alleged perp is convicted.
He is acquitted in court.
The case never gets to court. ...gee, I wonder why this happens so often?
Because rape and sexual assault charges are notoriously difficult to prove. That's the case for a variety of charges; the difficulty of the legal burden is not indicative of how often it actually happens.
In the latter, she either settled OOC...getting that money she wanted in the first place,
Already making an assumption without merit.
like with Kobe....or she dropped charges.
If you want to say that rape charges against celebrities are often if not mostly fabricated then you might be on to something.
So...in any and all of these cases the Alleged rapist could have been innocent.
And my question is why you are giving the benefit of the doubt to the accused to the point of accusing thousands upon thousands of women of perjury.
Women again, are taught from the gitgo how to retaliate
Really? And who goes around teaching every woman this?
They, say, give some Big male friend of theirs a bj to beat up some guy she was crazy about and let fuck her, but who dumped her.
I'm getting a sense of the caliber of people you spend your time around. Must be Detroit.
Guess I should have assumed it would be another "I have some problems with women, so I'm going to make another wild and baseless claim about thousands of people".