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Yes, some way Couldn't have been born
Debate Score:22
Arguments:21
Total Votes:22
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If any 1 thing had been different in pre you history, would you have been born?

Yes, some way

Side Score: 10
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Couldn't have been born

Side Score: 12
1 point

Depends on what worldview you embrace. If there is really a God, then the Bible states that God knew us before Creation. So, one way or another, we would have been born. Besides, time travel is impossible.

Side: Yes, some way
Hootie(364) Disputed
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If there is really a God, then the Bible states that God knew us before Creation. So, one way or another, we would have been born. Besides, time travel is impossible.

If God can't time travel, then he obviously isn't omnipotent, is he?

Side: Couldn't have been born
Grugore(856) Disputed
1 point

Why would God need to time travel? He is omnipresent. He is everywhere and everywhen. In fact, He exists outside of time and space.

Side: Yes, some way
ZingoFet(36) Disputed
1 point

Besides, time travel is impossible.

And why do you say that?

Side: Couldn't have been born
Grugore(856) Disputed
1 point

Have you met anyone from the future? Do you know anyone who has?

Side: Yes, some way
1 point

I guess the only answer to that is: "I wouldn't know"...………………...

Side: Yes, some way
1 point

If any 1 thing had been different in pre you history, would you have been born?

What hell does the nonsense above mean ????????????????

Side: Yes, some way
1 point

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Side: Yes, some way
1 point

Depends what the thing is, but I probably would not have been born.

If the thing that was different was a molecule in a cloud shifted a millimeter, it's doubtful that would have changed human history.

But it wouldn't take much to warp human history. Even a fish dying in the depths of the ocean could create a change. For example the fish poisoned someone at dinner later, but since it died in the time travel, the person who was poisoned lives on and steals what would have been someone else's wife, and breeds nonexisteng kids, and so forth.

Side: Couldn't have been born
1 point

This is a though one.

My answer is: it depends on what we mean by ANY one thing.

For example, from a pure scientific reasoning, the 3-body problem (interaction of three masses gravitationally) is an unanswered question, or even better, a question whose answer is: we can't solve it. There is no way we can know if a three-body system is stable (deterministic chaos theory).

Now let's raise the difficulty from a three variable issue to a potentially close to infinity number of variables (describing all the things happened after THAT up to the potential moment of our birth): as for the 3 body problem, WE CAN'T KNOW.

However, and this may be quite a silly argument (but I had to pick one, right? ps: my main argument is the one above :P) I can picture so many different properties that, if they were even slightly different, I wouldn't be here (an neither you nor anyone). Again using physics as a conveyor for my argument, there are 18 different parameters that define the Standard Model (the best theory we have about what the Universe is made of): if any of these parameters were slightly different (e.g. the mass of the neutron slightly larger than the mass of the electron) we would not have had the chain of events that eventually got here.

For lack of a better reason, I must say that I can picture many more scenarios in which we all are never born than the ones that see us living even though there is NO WAY for us to check if this is actually true.

Side: Couldn't have been born
1 point

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Side: Couldn't have been born
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Side: Couldn't have been born