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Debate Score:41
Arguments:34
Total Votes:48
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If any drug should be illegal, it is alcohol and tobacco!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/broadband/tx/drugs/survey/

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I think that both alchohol and tobacco are just as much drugs as anything else.. Most drugs have been banned because of what they cause people to do N what they do to people.. If 'Shrooms were made illegal because they inhance emotions and slightly alter reality then why isnt alchohol banned as well? It causes people to lose motor skills and everyone has heard of "beer goggles." majority of accidents today are from drunk drivers.. So.. WHY is it not banned as well as all the other "drugs"

Side: agree
tyronjamison(81) Disputed
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To this date, the most common type of causes for motor vehicle accidents is distractions.

Side: Disagree
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They are both the most deadly drugs used on earth. They both have combined death rates in the millions per year. No other drugs come even close.

They also effect those who are not even using the substances. Such as second hand smoke & people who drive while intoxicated.

Side: agree
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

The cost of living in a free society is that some people will abuse their freedom and kill themselves, or others in the process.

I would rather live in a society that has this amount of freedom than a regulated society which puts the government in charge of ruling over you like your parents.

But if you want a strong argument for why we shouldn't ban these substances, doing so increases criminal organisations' power because they will be the ones providing it. It also means that agencies like the CIA will make a profit from selling the contraband they find to other countries, like they did with cocaine.

Side: Disagree
tyronjamison(81) Disputed
1 point

The most deadly drug in the world is Chrystal Meth, you just thinking that because alcohol causes more deaths since it's legal, and others are illegal.

Side: Disagree
TERMINATOR(6751) Disputed
1 point

Not true.

Alcohol and tobacco are responsible for innumerably more deaths than methamphetamines, heroin, PCP, LSD, etc.

Side: agree
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I wouldn't exactly agree or disagree I would say the government should somehow put a limit to what people use or how they sell

Side: agree
tyronjamison(81) Disputed
1 point

Oh, that's to bad, because the government does put limits on. Ever hear of a Breathalyzer, it makes sure that we can't drive while making uneducated choices caused by alcohol.

Side: Disagree

And they also provide a legal drinking age, which supports the reason that the government puts restrictions one drug use.

Side: Disagree
0 points

Yes they truly should be.

People know these substances are bad for them... yet continuously consume them. Making them illegal however won't work because greedy, selfish bastards will turn to profit of it.

Side: agree
itsnotright(24) Disputed
1 point

So, you are initially saying that you are willing to infringe upon another persons right to do with their life as they wish? Wha difference does it make to you? Are they personally infringing upon YOUR rights? How about just going that extra mile and making it illegal to be a fast food joint. People know that regularly eating at these places is not good for them, yet they continue to do it. Other drugs are illegal because 1: they are hallucinagenic. 2: the Government wants there cut. 3: they are highly addictive. I know of no-one that has had a couple of drinks, or used tobacco a couple of times and niether overdosed, became addicted, or jumped off of a building because they thought they could fly, or walked into oncoming traffic because they thought they were invincible. But I agree with you on the fact that prohibition only makes thing worse.

Side: Disagree
2 points

Before reading my argument do know that I am very anti-drug and especially anti-tobacco.

I believe that no drug should be illegal, banned, prohibited, or otherwise gotten rid of. The failure of the prohibition movement in the United States shows that prohibiting substances does not work. Actions should be taken, however, and those actions should be taxing. If it costs an upwards of $15 to buy a pack of cigarettes or $40 dollars for 750ml of cheap vodka, usage would be drastically reduced, but that does not mean that they should be illegal.

Side: Disagree
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Agreed. Because:

1) Prohibition was the reason organized crime became so powerful that they were almost untouchable.

2) The taxes that the government gets from the two will disappear.

3) Too many companies (like Budweiser, Samuel Adams, Marlboro, new port) and small businesses (like bars and other restaurants) depend on them which means a lot of lawsuits.

So basically that is impossible.

Side: Disagree
TERMINATOR(6751) Disputed
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Neither of you seem to understand that the debate title did not expressly state that they should be banned, but simply that they deserve to be banned more than other drugs, such as LSD, PCP, marijuana, etc.

Side: agree
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Er, this sounds like a marijuana argument as resins seem to be inhibiting the ability to remember what drugs besides marijuana exist.

Crack, cocaine, speed, lsd, acid, etc, and the majority of prescription pills are far far more dangerous than alcohol or tobacco.

In fact, the only drug not more dangerous than tobacco and alcohol is marijuana that I know of.

So no if any drug should be illegal, those two fall way way back in the list.

Side: Disagree
TERMINATOR(6751) Disputed
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Did you access the provided link? BBC states that the long term effects of alcohol and tobacco are more damning than the long-term effects of other 'dangerous' drugs.

The primary danger in using drugs such as heroin is overdosing, due to a lack of knowledge regarding purity, and contaminated needles, which can result in a number of ailments such as HIV.

Side: agree
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
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People don't overdose on heroine because of lack of knowledge, they do it because they are addicted and need to take more and more to reach the high they crave.

The study is flawed and used misleading statistics to purposefully push an agenda.

The long term effects of smoking and alcohol can only be shown to be worse if one ignores completely two essential numbers, those who OD and die early therefore long-term effects cannot be measured, and ignore that people can smoke and drink more and live, therefore they do smoke and drink more, therefore show greater side effects later in life - consequently while they are still alive, which the heroine addict would not be.

Side: Disagree
tyronjamison(81) Disputed
1 point

Okay, but drugs like Chrystal Meth don't create problems for you over time, they screw you up right away, then your like that for the rest of your life.

Side: Disagree
1 point

I don't support a government's ability to impose sanctions upon what people can put into their bodies, unless the substance once taken causes people to become violent or otherwise destructive to society a majority of the time.

Side: Disagree
TERMINATOR(6751) Disputed
1 point

None of you seem to understand that the debate title did not expressly state that they should be banned, but simply that they deserve to be banned more than other drugs, such as LSD, PCP, marijuana, etc.

Side: agree
aveskde(1935) Disputed
1 point

Which is a moot point if I feel that no drugs should be banned except those which meet my aforementioned criteria.

Side: Disagree
0 points

If you want to make something illegal.... Have it be Blissful Ignorance or stupidity.

If someone is dumb enough to abuse substances they know are bad, then they should just die off and thin the herd. Problem is, these are usually the breeder of our society.

Side: Disagree
TERMINATOR(6751) Disputed
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None of you seem to understand that the debate title did not expressly state that they should be banned, but simply that they deserve to be banned more than other drugs, such as LSD, PCP, marijuana, etc.

Side: agree
tyronjamison(81) Disputed
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Stop saying the same thing, your just trying to get points so that your side wins the debate. So if someone is saying the drug shouldn't be made illegal because we should have the right state of mind not to abuse it or face the consequences, they are answering the question. It was implied that's why they are all right and shouldn't be banned over others.

Side: Disagree