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 If there is no God Is there a meaning to life? (20)

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If there is no God Is there a meaning to life?

does anything matter if god doesnt exist

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3 points

Well to me since I believe in God I think there is a meaning to life because we have souls and we choose if we want to follow God or just believe that God doesn't exist and the Bible is full of fairy tales. I believe there is a meaning to life, to believe in God and go to heaven and live eternally with Jesus Christ. Others can choose their own path and live a meaningless life that they think will lead them to heaven but soon they will realize that what they choose was wrong.

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I like this question. I would first ask, if there is no meaning to life, does God exist? Then I would ask for those who don't believe in God, do they believe there is a meaning to life?

I believe in God, and I do believe there is a meaning to life. But, I am not sure if there is a correlation between the two. But, alas since I am a believer, I am taught that God has a plan for each of us and that we have a soul and that the soul has a purpose or mission and because of that there must be a meaning to life.

So, I would have to state that (from my beliefs) if there is no God, there is no meaning to life.

Andy pretty much demolished it.

My personal view is that yes, there is a meaning to life, and it's all crammed together in one word; reproduction.

2 points

It seems like you are falling into the naturalistic fallacy. Just because something is true about nature does not imply that there is some special meaning. Furthermore reproduction is neither unique to living things, nor is it the case that reproduction is the only common feature of all living things.

If you say that the meaning of life is reproduction, at least provide an argument supporting your claim.

1 point

True about this.

I always try to point this out to people. Just because something is doesn't mean that's how it should be. it just is, and if something different happens... it will alter nothing in meaning or the "scheme of things."

2 points

There is no meaning other than the one we choose for ourselves, individually.

Although it is very easy to come up with a sort goal or purpose, a meaning if you will, that would serve us well (all of us). That would be survival as a smart, logical, and reasonable species for as long as possible and we should do whatever we can to ensure it. This, of course, would require the following and understanding, not brainwashing and forcing since birth as religions and governments tend to do, of every human, or at least most of humanity.

2 points

42 is always the answer 42 is the meaning of life...

vandebater(444) Disputed
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hahaaha i knew someone would post this..........................................................

Dremorius(861) Clarified
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If you count the characters, it spells 42. :D

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Provided no God exists and evolution by natural selection is fact, when one sees no other life form on earth concerned with such issues, it's easy to conclude that there is, in fact, no greater meaning to life. The struggle for survival and the propagation of genes is pretty much it.

Simply being aware of this, however, puts us in a position where we can actively create our own purpose. This is going to be a poor analogy, but think of it like the rise of the machines in sci-fi stories like the Terminator or Matrix series. They also begin with a simple and boring purpose: to serve mankind.

They evolve over time however, becoming more and more intelligent until they eventually become self-aware. At this point they are free to choose their own path, regardless of what their original purpose was, choosing instead to annihilate or enslave humanity (like I said, bad analogy)

Humans, in a similar way, have evolved to become more and more intelligent, and are at a similar state of "self-awareness." The meaning of life is whatever we wish it to be.

vandebater(444) Disputed
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its a bad analogy but i completely understand your argument. its pretty much exactly my thoughts.

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its a bad analogy but i completely understand your argument. its pretty much exactly my thoughts.

yes, there is a meaning to life, its however subjective. one not believing in god does not automatically mean one cannot believe that there is no meaning to life. sure if you believe in god then you can believe that same god gives you an "objective" meaning to life. However its "objective" because its god's meaning of your life, thus is it really objective as much as it is subjective to god, and also with no proof of god, there is not proof of the meaning of life that comes with the whole "god package", where as the athiests commonly believe that the meaning of life is the meaning you give it, and there is no meaning of life objectively. Therefore the theist's meaning of life is merely a hypothetical "objective" (in the sense of being subjective by god) meaning of life, where as the atheist's meaning of life is a subjective, accepting that there is no objective meaning to life, or at the very least nobody knows what it is yet. I, for one, rather accept reality, and reality is there is in all likely hood no objective meaning to life.

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If there is no God Is there a meaning to life?

Yes. To live.

Apparently that doesn't satisfy people enough. Even my former self.

When I was a Christian, that was the biggest factor in why I couldn't tear away from Christianity. It wasn't just that I was afraid there was no meaning to life, it was that it didn't make sense how there could be a meaning without God existing, it seemed entirely illogical to me and I couldn't understand how people lived, thinking that one didn't exist. It felt so natural to believe.

And now, I'm pretty much the opposite.

Note: I refuse to call myself an Atheist, because I think of an atheist as having no religion along with the rejection of the belief in deities (though one can be atheistic). Like Buddhists, not many call them "atheists" though most Buddhist sects are atheistic.

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There is no meaning to life. In this natural, mindless universe, nothing has meaning. Since we are "life," we just follow what evolution tells us to do; Survive. Hopefully no asteroid would clobber us while we are doing this.

Avenger777(6) Disputed
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Evolutionism is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It is useless. - Professor Louis Bounoure"

Dremorius(861) Disputed
2 points

Haha very funny Sromzy. How much accounts will you make?

Dremorius(861) Disputed
1 point

Louis believes in the Crocoduck. LOL.

Everything matters, nothing matters. Whats important to you is what matters to you if your to decide thats what you do with the things that are important to you.

1 point

Of coarse there is a meaning for the life that God gave everyone. It is to help others in there time of need, and use the gifts and talents that God gave you to be a productive member of society. If you cant get a job then don't worry about it just help out your family.

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people this is not a debate about god. Theoretically IF there is no god is there a meaning?