CreateDebate


Debate Info

Debate Score:13
Arguments:11
Total Votes:17
More Stats

Argument Ratio

side graph
 
 If you allow Hillary to deliberately use her own server to hide her corruption, & STILL... (9)

Debate Creator

Cuaroc(8829) pic



If you allow Hillary to deliberately use her own server to hide her corruption, & STILL...

you vote for her? You are truly a sad excuse for an American. True Americans believe in our Constitution and the rule of law!

If you still vote for a proven corrupt politician who deserves to be arrested or be stripped of her national security clearance, you are everything that is wrong with our once great nation. To vote for a criminal just because she's a woman? GET REAL!

If you don't want to vote for trump then DON'T VOTE!

When they gave Hillary a free ride with our natonal security, they have sent the message to all future politicians that you can sell America to the highest bidder and STILL GET REWARDED!

I am so ashamed of what has become of the democrat party. Their entire priorities are pandering to feminist groups, to the LGBT groups, to minorities, while the middle class and other tax payers are forced to subsidise the Democrat voting blocks whether it be funding to the pro abortion Planned parenthood, or Obamacare, or forced marriage laws on every state, or forced boys in girls bathrooms in every public school, etc.
They have become extremists!

It's truly sickening to buy votes with our tax dollars. It is criminal yet democrats get away with it.
-FromWithin
Add New Argument
1 point

No one here allowed Hillary to use her own server.

You hate the constitution when it comes to the 4th amendment.

If you were really a Republican you should be ashamed of the Republican party for not representing you. No one is supposed to be ashamed of a political party they don't belong to.

You never say anything good about Trump. Your only reason for voting for Trump is that you don't like Hillary. Give is something to vote for.

2 points

Exactly right.

And further, those classified emails were originally sent to her. She did not initiate the process. She only unknowingly continued it, based on her past experienced form receiving emails on that server that others had assured her were safe for viewing and being transmitted in that method.

Also......the information contained within those emails has nothing to do with her personal life, and whatever alleged corruptions are inherent to it. Thus, like most of FromWithout's Straw Man debates, the title of this debate is totally misleading. Making it sound as if the woman....hell, I don't even know how to make an example here, as it is so absurd.

Making it sound as if she stashed away some of her hidden nefarious personal secrets on a personal server. This is absolutely not the case, and nobody, even her staunchest enemies, have accused her of doing that here.

But ya know what? Even if she WAS discovered to have hidden some of her own corrupt acts on her personal server, so long as they were not of a treasonous quality, I would STILL vote for her over Trump.

After all..can you just begin to even imagine all the backroom, secret, illegal dealings Trump has been involved with during his business affairs? Arguably the man is a glorified Land Baron. And none of those types is without their own skeletons in their closets.

SS

1 point

Technically she initiated the process by accepting a position that requires access to secret information. All of our security agencies told her that her personal server was unsafe to use. She was told over and over again not to use her home server.

We have no idea what is in the emails she deleted, so you can't be sure that. The Republicans think she hid her nefarious actions about Benghazi, which wouldn't be personal.

The sad thing about the backroom deals Trump has been involved in were probably all legal since we have deregulated that stuff so much. Still shady, but not illegal.

IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
1 point

I'm ashamed of both the political parties and I belong to neither.

If one votes for Hillary after the email scandal (which you still don't seem to actually know much about), then it's because Republicans have managed to find the only candidate that could still make Hillary Clinton the obvious, "likable" choice.

That's entirely on you guys. It's the responsibility of the minority party to serve as a responsible watchdog. Instead, you guys found an over-bread English Bulldog with sever leash aggression. Well done.

1 point

Why is it that nobody is concerned or suspicious about the "usual suspects" in Hillary? She's part of the posse or gang who have been around forever in American politics and presidential elections. She's obviously part of the same crew. They just recycle each other and shift each other around to make it look like there's new blood or new leaders, but when u look closely, they are actually all the same people.

People like Ron Paul was not part of their circle. Even people like Trump. I'm a lot more open to new leaders and new people who are not part of or from the same crew and posse. I bet you in another 4 or 8 years, Jeb Bush will be the frontrunner to become the President. They're keeping it "in house".

IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
2 points

Because even if the "status quo" is bad, Trump represents a far, far more dangerous alternative.

0 points

Hillary BROKE NO LAW. She didn't use a government server, as Colin Powell and Condi Rice did not before her. There is no evidence that this did any damage, no harm, no foul. We know that she has learned from that.

Trump has admitted to having a "relationship" with Putin. He "knows him". There is as much, or MORE question of damage here! Is he actually using his own money to run his campaign ... or Putin's?? They have shown a "mutual admiration" for each other, common knowledge! Putin is arguably the richest man in the world, Trump is a salesman. Salesmen like to make money, many have no scruples when it comes to the bottom line!

Does Trump actually HAVE much money? The many law suits and bankruptcies against him are NOT CHEAP! We can't find out because he is hiding his tax return! He DEMANDED that Obama show his birth certificate! He demanded that Obama show his college record ... mostly a public record. He showed him HIS, now let's see YOURS, Mr. Trump! You are deliberately hiding MANY things! Giving him the morning "briefing" COULD end up in "Putins Email" ...who knows?? He "deliberately" hides HIS "corruption"!

It is also sickening to allow corporations to "buy votes" (likely with the money they saved on their taxes by, as Trump said, "gaming the system")! He admittedly KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT! Do you REALLY think he wants to break the golden egg?? Do you REALLY think he will go against the Koch's? Adelson? The (at least) 24 other billionaires that will pour money into the GOP coffers to get what they want, should HE win!?? They will GLADLY support his oligarchy! They win! We lose! (again)

Amarel(5669) Disputed
1 point

I'll summarize for you:

"Our investigation concludes that X, Y, and Z took place. X, Y, and Z are highly illegal. We did not find any ill-intent, which is not required for these laws to have been broken, but I'll keep mentioning it anyway. Hillary Clinton broke the law, but she is special. Even though anyone else would normally face stiff consequences for this kind of breach of law, we will not recommend an indictment. Thank you"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghph361wa0

She broke the law but we won't indict
AlofRI(3294) Disputed
1 point

There is no law against "fraud"?? There is no law against hiring businesses and not paying for the work?

I know there is no law against "outsourcing" your manufacturing, but there SHOULD be a law against claiming to be FOR America, and Americans, then making your money off the cheap labor of our enemies!

There SHOULD be a law against denigrating foreign workers and hiring 1100+ of them (rather than hire Americans) and calling for their ejection from the country. I'm not from New York, but ( I ) know a CON when I see one, and HE is one of the worst!