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Debate Score:108
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If you don't believe in God, then the government is your god.

Think about it, any atheist on this site, not anarchists, atheisst, probably believe the government is untouchable, knows everything, and controls what you do.


Please explain how the government is no different than god.


But when you worship god, you are not letting others oppress you.

When you believe in government you believe only the government is correct, how dare anyone go against the government? Its the government, it cant be wrong, it sees all...



Also, you allow your government to murder and commit thievery (taxes)

Thats terrible. And its true.

If you dont believe in god, you believe in government.

The two do not mix 

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The Government IS god.

God lives in Heaven. So does the government.

God uses angels in his work. The government uses angels too (tax collectors)

God knows all. So does the government.

God created all. So did the government.

They are one in the same, a single, symbiotic twirling mass of matter and mind through space and time.

Long live Sarah Palin (god)

Side: True
1 point

Congratulations, you just like everyone else on this debate, has failed entirely to grasp the concept of what I am trying to explain.

And your sarcasm didn't even match the topic, you are dumb.

Side: False

And by murder I mean war, like vietnam and the bay of pigs....

Its disgusting how you blindly support this barbaric fascist behavior

Side: True
-1 points

And by murder I mean war, like vietnam, bay of pigs...

Disgusting

Side: True
9 points

The fuck?

Side: False

What about the anarcho-atheists?

If someone doesn't believe in god by definition (atheists), you can't conclude that they do in fact believe in god (the state). It's a contradiction.

Side: False
0 points

well, they follow all the laws the government gives, they pay their taxes, they support anything the government does.

Maybe i meant liberals

Side: True
Cartman(18207) Disputed
6 points

well, they follow all the laws the government gives, they pay their taxes, they support anything the government does.

This sounds like Christians. Are Christians Atheists who worship the government?

Side: False
josefdaly(1) Disputed
3 points

Liberals support anything the government does? Not at all. Liberals are the ones who protest wars and human rights violations.

Point being, atheists break laws all the time, just like christians.

Side: False
Nox0(1394) Disputed
2 points

That is why we have political parties with different programs, because different people have different view on how the government should work.

Side: False
6 points

Nope, try again.

If you dont believe in god, you believe in government.

Yeah, I am pretty sure government exists even to those who believe in God.

Side: False
0 points

Its not about existence, obviously the government exists, but people treat the government like government is god.

That was my point, so, try again...

Side: True
Cartman(18207) Disputed
2 points

Your points don't have anything to do with believing in a God. Your ideas don't actually align with how people actually view the government. You used the word believe in 2 different ways.

Side: False

This debate seems to suggest that atheism and anarchism are mutually exclusive.

Here's a hint- they aren't.

Side: False
1 point

no i said, not anarchists, mostly atheists, because atheists have nothing else to believe in other than the government, or themselves, but then that would make them a satanist.

So where did you get that?

If anything liberalism and atheism go hand in hand

Side: True
Cartman(18207) Disputed
1 point

You said Atheists, not anarchists. That means you are saying that Atheists can't be Anarchists.

Satanists worship Satan. If you don't worship Satan, you aren't a Satanist.

Side: True
4 points

I believe that anything that wants complete faith and loyalty from its followers is stupid. This includes human and supernatural organizations. I am a complete atheist, but I also see the abundance of flaws in the government.

Side: False
4 points

So tell me. How does not believing in God automatically mean that you are a blind follower of the government? I don't see where the fuck you are coming from. I consider myself separate from both of these entities. Frankly, I'm not sure how your brain could concoct something like this. It's a false dilemma; you're argument is WELL GOD OR GOVERNMENT PICK ONE AND ONE IS RIGHT BECAUSE THE OTHER ONE NEEDS TAXES. You're not good at this. In fact you're terrible. Go occupy your life with something else.

Side: False

Yes, I worship the government every Sunday. I also believe that when I die, I will go to the big senate building and enjoy everlasting political talks. Oh the joy.

Side: False

I don't see the government as God. I See Imhotep, Darwin, Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, and Werner Von Braun as Gods.

Side: False
2 points

If you mean that God is a phenomenon that gives you bless, justice, etc, then somehow it can be similar to government. However, if you are an atheist, you do not have to believe in government neither.

Side: False

That claim is stupid. Atheists have no god or gods. .

Side: False
2 points

Government is created by and composed of people. As for God, for those who believe in God, the existence of it is true, and for those who not, false.

Government is in out society because we need it. We needed to bond with each other in an effective way in order to survive. The form of government was then introduced to make a strong country.

God, on the other hand, was created by many reasons which are not the same as those for the creation of government.

Government is necessary; but sometimes for some people it is rather a necessary evil.

When you believe in God, you don't construe it as a necessary evil.

There is a big gap there.

Side: False
Cartman(18207) Disputed
1 point

Government is created by and composed of people. As for God, for those who believe in God, the existence of it is true, and for those who not, false.

Religion is created by and composed of people. As for government, the existence of it is true.

Government is in out society because we need it. We needed to bond with each other in an effective way in order to survive. The form of government was then introduced to make a strong country.

Religion used to be in society because it was needed. We needed to bond with each other in an effective way in order to survive. Religion was then introduced to make a strong society.

God, on the other hand, was created by many reasons which are not the same as those for the creation of government.

Reasons you conveniently left out.

Government is necessary; but sometimes for some people it is rather a necessary evil.

God is not necessary, but sometimes for some people it is rather a convenient way to commit evil.

When you believe in God, you don't construe it as a necessary evil.

When you don't believe in God, you realize it is an unneccessary evil.

Side: True
WilliamYJ(6) Disputed
1 point

Thank you for your response.

Religion is created by and composed of people. As for government, the existence of it is true.

God and religion are not the same concept.

Religion used to be in society because it was needed. We needed to bond with each other in an effective way in order to survive. Religion was then introduced to make a strong society.

Think about a world without a government and then about a world without a religion. Then you think about the need.

Reasons you conveniently left out.

and which were obvious.

God is not necessary, but sometimes for some people it is rather a convenient way to commit evil.

I agree.

When you don't believe in God, you realize it is an unnecessary evil.

I agree.

So basically, you agreed with the idea the government is not your god.

Side: False
2 points

This is what happens when delusional religious zealot creates a debate...

Side: False

No, your God is whatever is most important to you.

Side: False

Silly reasoning in my opinion. Atheism is science and the lack of a need for faith. Just because you are an atheist, doesn't mean you worship the government. It means you respect the authority in this country that you believe will help further this country according to what you believe. Wether it be big government, big corporation, or no government. True atheists use hard facts and support the one that has the most evidence for it. BTW, Atheism is not a form of faith, or religion, it is the lack of. THink of religion as a set of numbers. Atheism would be 0

Side: False
1 point

Well nawh?

Nai, I preside over my own life. Of course government has a pretty fucking big influence, in some very insidious ways, but I am the main protagonist in my own life.

Side: False
1 point

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Side: False