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Is there any difference between the far left and the far right

Move to the far left, and you start hating Catholics and Jews just like the KKK. How interesting.

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Brilliant reasoning there. Exact opposites are really the same thing.

The far left= a classless, stateless and moneyless society where everyone has the same opportunities and rights and society is governed through methodology and democracy.

The far right = a stratified class based society where some are born into wealth and others are born into poverty, the government has total control, everything is based on social constructs rather than reason and merit is something that is inherited rather than earned.

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Apolline(187) Disputed
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Brilliant reasoning there. Exact opposites are really the same thing.

Except that there's no difference. You both hate Catholics and Jews and use violence on them.

The far left= a classless, stateless and moneyless society where everyone has the same opportunities and rights and society is governed through methodology and democracy.

You treat half of the West like nonequal, while pointing to their perceived flaws and ignoring the same perceived flaws in other groups.

The far right = a stratified class based society where some are born into wealth and others are born into poverty

That's called reality, and the left has more billionaires than the right.

The government has total control

The right wants less government control.

everything is based on social constructs

You just described left wing identity politics to a T.

rather than reason and merit is something that is inherited rather than earned.

Most rich people didn't start off rich, and most rich people are left of center.

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jamesbody(276) Disputed
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Except that there's no difference.

Except he's just explained the difference to you meticulously, you fucking idiot shill. Here's another difference. People on the left don't open two hundred different user accounts for the purposes of spamming the internet with utter bullshit. Your theory that the people who vote for social equality are no better than Hitler is as fucking stupid as everything else you write, on every account you use to abuse this website.

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ArchonElite(336) Disputed
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that there's no difference. You both hate Catholics and Jews and use violence on them.

I didn't even mention that you idiotic cunt. Stop ignoring reality and responding to your own right wing thought bubble of propaganda. Socialists don't use violence on catholics and Jews, we just don't like their retarded beliefs.

You treat half of the West like nonequal

I only discriminate against stupidity.

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ArchonElite(336) Disputed
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That's called reality,

That's the reality capitalism has constructed which prevents the vast majority of people from reaching their full potential while placing privileged prats who are not special on a pedestal because their daddy was rich.

and the left has more billionaires than the right.

Which leftists? You mean the ones that are capitalists and American Democrats?

The right wants less government control.

No they don't.

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FromWithin(7741) Disputed
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Funny how hypocritical fools on the Left, such as yourself, refuse to give even viable unborn babies equal opportunities to ....."LIVE!

Forget about equal opportunities to work and succeed. People like you deny a person their inalienably right to life!

Get some humanity! You are so lost it is truly sickening. Your priorities are so screwed up!

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Is there any difference between the far left and the far right

Move to the far left, and you start hating Catholics and Jews just like the KKK. How interesting.

Hello A:

The extremes differ MAINLY between the people they HATE. You nailed the far left above. But, you neglected to mention the far right ALSO hates Catholics - if they're BROWN Catholics. That TOO is just like the KKK.

excon

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Caspion(205) Disputed
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The extremes differ MAINLY between the people they HATE. You nailed the far left above. But, you neglected to mention the far right ALSO hates Catholics - if they're BROWN Catholics. That TOO is just like the KKK.

They both hate Catholics regardless of skin color. Democrats created the klan, then re-elected Robert Byrd from Klan days until 2010.

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jamesbody(276) Disputed
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They both hate Catholics regardless of skin color.

Bronto, you say the most incredibly stupid things and then for some inexplicable reason expect to be treated like you haven't just made up your own facts. Ninety seven percent of Catholics voted for either Clinton or Trump in 2016.

Shut up. You're literally a fucking moron.

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outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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STUPOR STUPID is tooooooooo IGNORANT to understand what CUMS out of it's LYING MOUTH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's reference to the KKK shows how stupid the TROLL is and what it does not know about HISTORY ! But we cannot blame the BOY for it's IGNORANCE because IGNORANCE is all IT knows !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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No. They both have issues.........................................................................................

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No, because both parties have their issues, and are ruining this country........................................................................................................................

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If we use Stalin and Hitler as examples of the political extreme left and extreme right respectively then the common denominator is repression of whole populations and 10s of millions of corpses.

The two opposing ideologies do of course follow different doctrines but the net result of massacre, torture and wrongful imprisonment of innocents along with population subjugation is the inevitable upshot of both forms of political fanaticism.

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jamesbody(276) Disputed
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If we use Stalin and Hitler as examples of the political extreme left and extreme right respectively then

Then you'd be a retard without any idea what you were talking about. Stalin was a right wing dictator who saw an opportunity to seize power for himself and took it. The entire fucking premise of left wing politics is the dissolution of leadership and hierarchy, so stop mislabelling far right ideas such as fascist dictatorship as belonging to the left. Reading your misinformation is annoying as fuck, especially given that this is the third different account you have thus far used to comment in your own debate.

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FrogofLondon(36) Disputed
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Stalin was a right wing dictator who saw an opportunity to seize power for himself and took it.

He was a Marxist you fucking dumbass.

Initially presiding over an oligarchic one-party system that governed by plurality, he became the de facto dictator of the Soviet state by the 1930s while holding the posts of General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (1922–1952) and Premier (1941–1953). A communist ideologically committed to the Leninist interpretation of Marxism, Stalin helped to formalise these ideas as Marxism–Leninism, while his own policies became known as Stalinism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JosephStalin

The entire fucking premise of left wing politics is the dissolution of leadership and hierarchy, so stop mislabelling far right ideas such as fascist dictatorship as belonging to the left

Basically all of these little dictators in third world countries are socialists, that not excluding China and Russia. Name us any country run by Marxists that isn't a dictatorship.

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outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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Leftist are Commies there Banning Boy ! Are you not aware of reality ?????????

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Far Left: A lot of government control (we are robots of the government)

Far Right: eventually CORPORATIONS have monopoly control (we are Slaves of the corporations)

Nah- not much freedom either way

When will people realize that the sweet spot is in the middle (free market with some social programs (I get shot down bc of Holocaust- but Hitler /national socialism was a true middle ground- don’t worry we don’t have to create genocide to learn economics

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ArchonElite(336) Disputed
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Far Left: A lot of government control (we are robots of the government)

This is actually the exact opposite of the truth. If you know what the left/right paradigm actually is in it's true historical context then you know that the right is about preserving hierarchies and traditional values and the left is about social equality and challenging traditional values. The true implication of an extreme left wing system is that there is no class or systemic hierarchies built into society and therefor the very existence of a government or institutionalized authority is incompatible with the far left. The left/right dynamic was first conceived of during the french revolution, "conservatives" were those who defended the aristocracy/monarchy and "liberals" were those who sought to decentralize power.

Far Right: eventually CORPORATIONS have monopoly control (we are Slaves of the corporations)

Capitalism is actually the part of the right side of the spectrum that is closest to center. During the french revolution, "classical liberals" (who are considered conservatives by today's standards) were actually considered radical left wingers back when monarchy was the status quo. In reality if you look at the far right, what you will see is fascism. Essentially the key defining difference between the left and the right is that the left promotes equality and the right promotes stratification on a class basis.

When will people realize that the sweet spot is in the middle

There is no sweet spot. We will always have to change and adapt and grow as a species, left wingers are often called "progressives" for a reason.

free market

There is no such thing as a free market. The freer the market, the freer a small minority of people are to buy up all the important land and resources which reduces economic freedom and mobility for everyone else to zero eventually.

with some social programs

Social programs are not inherently left wing. Social programs such as the "steal tax money from the poor to bail out rich investors" program is very right wing. Social programs such as the "divide everyone into classes based on race and have the government provide special programs for aryans while murdering everyone else program" are very right wing.

I get shot down bc of Holocaust- but Hitler /national socialism was a true middle ground-

National socialism is a lie, Hitler was a fascist who hijacked a left leaning worker's party and ran on a platform with which he attempted to appeal to both the left and the right and then proceeded to murder all the true leftists who opposed him once he got into power. Then he started dividing people into classes based on race and implementing a totalitarian regime which provided for Aryans and shit on everyone else, just as capitalism gives special treatment to the wealthy and shits on the poor as if it's designed to keep them down.

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Slavedevice(1212) Clarified
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So are you supporting revoking individual ownership of land/property as the communists?

I disagree with you on free market- free market with TRUE competition will naturally control price and monopoly. I do agree that currently there exists “corporate welfare “ like tax payers bailout of banks etc. that’s NOT Freemarket

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Is there any difference between the far left and the far right

They both hate and use violence on the exact same groups.

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jamesbody(276) Disputed
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They both hate and use violence on the exact same groups.

Oh for God's sake shut up you annoying little idiot. Everybody here knows you and the OP are both Bronto alt accounts and if you had half a goddamned brain cell rattling around anywhere in that empty skull of yours you'd stop replying to your own fucking idiotic smear campaign against the left. Fuck off, you irritating little no life.

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FrogofLondon(36) Disputed
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Oh for God's sake shut up you annoying little idiot. if you had half a goddamned brain cell rattling around anywhere in that empty skull

You forgot to address the debate because you are unable to.

Fuck off, you irritating little no life.

You've literally admitted to playing Skyrim all day and having no friends.

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Caspion(205) Disputed
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Sounds like you admitting they are the same thing.

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Democrats just took over both houses in New York State. They instantly passed No Restriction abortions up to birth for any reason.

Republicans had always stopped this inhumanity!

DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES?

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