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Of course, Commie followers like the idea of Communism. They don't like the actual Communism that those in control will give them. That's why when a Marxist brags about how great Communism is, I say show me an example of a Communist nation you want me to examine. I've never gotten an answer. Never.
These radical far left concepts are carrots on a stick, not food from the Salvation Army.
Of course, Commie followers like the idea of Communism.
But you neglect to mention that capitalist followers also like the idea of capitalism, or that there are many more of them because our children are brainwashed to be that way. You cannot support anything you say in any circumstance where all the facts are being acknowledged, and hence you work from the outset to unbalance those facts. You include only the ones which suit you, and you purposefully omit the rest.
They don't like the actual Communism that those in control will give them.
And this is where you dive headfirst into fallacy. Communism is anti-control. You are essentially trying to make people believe that what is a reality under capitalism (i.e. rich, powerful people being in control) only becomes a reality under communism, when in fact communism was literally invented to take control away from the rich and powerful and give it back to the voting majority.
The fact of the matter is that you are stupid, corrupt and cannot make an argument in which you do not turn the truth upside down. For further evidence of this see last night, when you spent several hours trying to convince people that Benito Mussolini was a socialist.
So show us an example of Communism in a country you think we should follow.
Vietnam would be a good one, buddy. The Vietnamese fought for decades to kick the French colonialists out of their country, and then for several more decades after that they fought the Americans for the right to hold their own unified elections absent influence from foreign power. Needless to say, the moment they won that war they voted unanimously for communism, and the astonishingly corrupt American puppet government collapsed amid a barrage of scandals.
Communist countries always have unanimous elections.
This is funny. Are you telling us the Vietnamese fought American capitalists for two decades because they agreed with American capitalism? Lol. Amarel, you are simply too much.
they are generally referring to the middle aged adult who headed the Italian fascist state in World War Two, not the nineteen year old teenager living in his father's basement.
Mussolini was in the socialist party until after he was 30. This may surprise you, but most 30 year old men don’t live in their dad’s basement. Nor do they simply abandon their entire worldview for its opposite.
Mussolini was in the socialist party until after he was 30
Just stop. I appreciate this is difficult for you to understand because you are such a chronically dishonest imbecile and pathological narcissist, but everything which you write is a curious mix of irrelevant, false and wholesale fucking stupid. Please see:-
Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini (Italian: [beˈniːto mussoˈliːni];[1] 29 July 1883 – 28 April 1945)
By the time he returned from service in the Allied forces of World War I, very little remained of Mussolini the socialist. Indeed, he was now convinced that socialism as a doctrine had largely been a failure. In 1917 Mussolini got his start in politics with the help of a £100 weekly wage (the equivalent of £6000 as of 2009) from the British security service MI5, to keep anti-war protestors at home and to publish pro-war propaganda.
Add the numbers together like the child you are and then write back to tell me how old Mussolini was when "very little remained of Mussolini the socialist". I used 30 as a general estimate, not as part of a historical fucking biography.
That claim is inconsistent with your very last post you laughably stupid idiot. Make up your mind. Did I say 19 or 30? Or are you sticking with: "I wrote back to you in order to refute my own claim"?
That claim is inconsistent with your very last post
No it isn’t.
You said “19 in his dad’s basement bla bla”, and I said he was a socialist until after he was 30. See? You used 19 and I used 30. Sorry I have you quoting people who literally read Mussolini. How long did it take you to make the transition he made from socialism to fascism? Pretty soon you might end up literally literally being Hitler. That’s rough. You’d be better off with principles. Look into it.
Yes it obviously is you amusingly stupid imbecile. If it was you who said 30, then you would be arguing with yourself when you pointed out he was over 30 when he left the Socialist Party. Either I was the one who said he was 30, or you wrote back to me in order to disagree with your own claim that he was 30. It doesn't matter which one you choose. You are an idiot either way.
You said “19 in his dad’s basement bla bla”
In a completely separate post, in regards to a completely different subject, and in a completely different thread. As you are well aware, my reference to 30 was given yesterday evening, because it is the age your bizarrely selective biography of the man ended. You are conflating two different topics and two different threads because confusion is the only real disguise you have for your own stupidity.
Correct. I banned you because your account of Mussolini's life ended when he was 30. You posted all the quotes from his early years in which he glowingly supported socialism, and absolutely nothing following his transition to fascism in which he declared it to be a total failure which needed to be exterminated from society.
Given that you obviously did that on purpose, a ban was a perfectly justified response to your stunning omission of the relevant facts.
t’s just a couple posts up. You said 19. I said 30.
Jesus Christ Amarel, only you are capable of contradicting yourself in the same fucking post. Did I ban you from a thread in which I said 30 or did I not ban you from a thread in which I said 30?
This may surprise you, but most 30 year old men don’t live in their dad’s basement.
I don't know where he lived. What I do know is that he left for war a socialist and came back a fascist. That is what the history books say, however you try to twist and distort them like the lying prick you are.
You really need to better determine the difference between literal phrasing and figurative phrasing (i.e. jokes, estimates, sarcasm, parody etc...). At the moment you seem to believe deliberately misinterpreting speech is a form of debate, when in reality it's just a form of asshole.
You should read the article. Scientists pull carbon out of the air and turn it into liquid fuel for combustion engines. This is altogether different than what trees are about.
More than half of scientific research is now privately funded. A third of government funding For research is granted to private industries. When I say that corporations are doing this, I am not excluding their scientists. When I say scientists are doing this, I am not contradicting myself.
Nor do they simply abandon their entire worldview for its opposite.
Oh, you laughable retard. So atheists don't become born-again Christians? Theists don't abandon religion?
Shut your stupid, lying mouth you fascist Jew imbecile. It is a matter of FACT that Mussolini switched from the far left to the far right. Also a matter of FACT is that you are trying to convince people otherwise because you share the same views as Mussolini the fascist, and that is evidenced perfectly clearly by your savage attacks against socialism. Last night you posted a synopsis of Mussolini's life which ended before he had even left the socialist party. You purposefully omitted his entire later life, lest people realise he did exactly what you claim "people do not do" and that is change his politics.
The term was later applied to a number of movements, especially republicanism during the French Revolution in the 18th century, followed by socialism,[8] communism, anarchism and social democracy in the 19th and 20th centuries.
Although the right-wing originated with traditional conservatives, monarchists, and reactionaries, the term extreme right-wing has also been applied to movements including fascism, Nazism, and racial supremacy
CLOWN CAR are your LOVED ILLEGAL ALIENS part of the INSANE NONSENSE you typed above ??????? Talk about STUPID you need a LUCITE BLOCK for your IGNORANCE !
Of course this is the exact opposite of truth. Communism is a meritocracy and capitalism is modified feudalism.
Excon is the prick you (barely) tolerate because he's begrudgingly agreed to vote for the left. Afterwards he invites everyone out for a drink and they make a wide variety of increasingly bizarre excuses for declining, such as: "I have to rearrange my sock drawer" or "my cat is constipated".
If you're NOT talented, you'd LIKE Communism.. If you ARE talented, you'd like Capitalism
Excon, every time I ever get within half a mile of liking you, inevitably you spoil it by writing something incredibly stupid like this.
According to lamentably misguided idiots like you, without capitalism there would be no technological evolution, no progress, no success and talent would go completely unnoticed. These claims are just so ridiculously stupid that I wouldn't even include them in a children's book.
The only thing communism really modifies is the public incentive. Presently we live in a primitive world where personal wealth and power are lauded as gods. Not everybody responds well to these incentives, regardless of how "talented" they are. For obvious reasons these incentives best suit selfish, myopic and greedy people with little empathy for others. Or, if you prefer the technical definition: sociopaths. Just because someone does not have sociopathic tendencies does not necessarily mean they are not talented.
To be honest, sometimes it is very difficult to have a reasonable discussion with you.
