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Debate Score:7
Arguments:9
Total Votes:7
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If you're not a criminal, you have nothing to hide?

Comcast has been threatining to refuse service to customers who use TOR. (I've never heard of TOR but there's a link in the link, all I know is it hides what you do online) Their justification for this is saying that, while TOR is not illegal, people use it to do illegal things. They are hiding what they do, for the sole purpose of partaking in legal activities, is what COmcast is saying.

What are your thoughts on this, in addition to the side you choose based on the title, and why?

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Side Score: 4
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Disagree

Side Score: 3

I have nothing to hide and I am not a criminal, so, this security check is fine with me.

Side: Agree
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This debate is worded horribly.

It doesn't matter if you have something to hide or not. Stop criminals not the tools they use.

Side: Disagree
DrawFour(2662) Clarified
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I honestly think you you said what you said about the debate's wording simply because of past interactions with me, you made deny it like the plague, but that's just what I think.

Nonetheless, the debate was worded this way deliberately. In order to reference a popular saying that people like to use to justify giving up their privacy.

Side: Agree
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No, it is because of the last line. If your debate was clear you wouldn't need to explain that people need to pick a side and give thoughts.

Nonetheless, the debate was worded this way deliberately. In order to reference a popular saying that people like to use to justify giving up their privacy.

So, instead of created a well worded debate you went out of your way to use a popular reference that doesn't belong here.

Side: Disagree

If you're not a criminal, you have nothing to hide? Well, Comcast- why do you use SSL encryption?

Malware is a problem, and some forms of it are used to turn infected machines into ad hoc fileservers, for all manner of illegal content, ranging from copyrighted material through child pornography. When these are detected, through any means, on somebodies computer, they're subject to indefinite seizure of their computer equipment and any records they may keep on this. Even in cases where the accused was acquitted, there were significant delays in return of the equipment, and some never end up being returned.

New forms of malware arise daily, and security software is always several steps behind. If a machine is connected to the internet, one can never be entirely certain that the system is secure, and with the legal precedents involved supporting confiscation simply when someone is accused, it's prudent to use the web anonymously whenever possible.

If someone suspects me of a crime of some sort involving my computer, they can make a case for it and see if they can get a warrant. I'm unwilling to abide what ultimately amounts to illegal wiretapping.

Side: Disagree