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Debate Score:15
Arguments:10
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Illness & Marriage: What Would You Do?

Marriages end for all sorts of reasons or excuses.  But here's one that we rarely think of when people wish to separate or divorce...Illness!  We all know the vows; for better or for worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part.  In reality or when a family altering accident or illness occurs, many people go through the phases of loss and some, carry it through to separation leading to inevitable divorce.

What would you do when faced with such a dilemma where change is inevitable and it is YOU who must alter their thoughts and behavior in order to keep things together for an unknown length of time.  Could you put your partner first and suffer the inequality of such a situation of would you run like hell and beat a hasty retreat to anywhere but home?

 

See it through no matter what

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Beat a hasty retreat

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3 points

Well, let me say, that if I was ever crazy enough to get married, I would have 0 problem divorcing a perfectly healthy woman for any of the following reasons:

1. She gets fat

2. She decides she suddenly hates sex

3. She turns into a raging b!+<h for no apparent reason

But if I'm married to someone who gets some kind of terrible cancer or something, morally I have to stay with them and either see it through until they're healthy or dead, because as humans with the capacity for empathy and reason, it's just what we have to do.

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I would have a problem divorcing someone who was mentally or physically ill. After all, the same thing might have happened to me and I would have to rely on my partner to see us through extraordinarily difficult times. I took a vow to love another human being no matter what comes and I would plan on keeping that vow no matter what!

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1 point

I'd see it through. Such a ridiculous reason to go for a divorce. I tell myself the only reason divorce might be inevitable is if he cheats on me, but I'm not even 100% positive with myself if I'd be willing to not look past something that painful to make a marriage work. This is the way I see a marriage: the person you marry becomes your family. And like MOST, if not ALL of your family, you are their family no matter what the "F" they do or go through. Your spouse should be the same thing. Of course it more directly affects you in a different way if your spouse gets cancer compared to your brother getting cancer, or if your spouse cheats on you vs. your brother cheating on his wife, but to me, it's all the same. I married him, he's now as much my family as my ex-stepfather is, as my brother is, and my mom is. And I'll suffer it til the end of my life if that's what I get stuck with.... but really, the way your marriage turns out attitude-wise, is as much your fault as your partners. Divorce is one of the most ridiculous things going on. It should be banned and it should also have stricter rules set for the two people to pass before marrying (so then stuff like an abusive husband can be caught before the woman marries the sucker... this is what psychologists are capable of seeing during counseling).

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1 point

Well I posted this on the other debate by the same name, but this one got more popular, so:

If I truly love her, I think I'd stick through it. I'd be too distraught to completely lose her and date again. However, I think i I didn't love her, illness would just be an excuse to get out of the marriage. I think this is true for some people who divorce after illness.

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Thanks Mick, you're a doll! All fixed, HA!``````````````````````````````````````````````````

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>.< Gah Chris!!! I get that a lot. It's Mick, not Mike. Haha. Don;t worry about it. On average, only half of the people I say my name to actually get it right. I get a lot of Mike, Nick, and Mitch (the worst one). Mick is short for Michael. :)

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1 point

my husband is facing jail time

yea he'll come out a different man but the point of love is you stick it out, you love them no matter what, you stick by their side no matter what

this is the same concept

so ur partner has cancer

who cares?

do u love them or not?

splitting up with them will not help in any way.

they need ur support and love

no to know that at the slightest thing ur gonna freak out n leave them

but then it also depends on how much stress ur emotional half can handle

its a tricky situation

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2 points

That's a very interesting rebuttal chicken! I don't hear the compassion in your words nor do I see the sense in what you are saying. You say that you must love them no matter what and stick by them no matter what. Your husband is facing jail time. He made a choice and, seemingly, a bad one! The person who is ill has no choice. Illness comes and most times it cannot be helped. But facing jail time or being ill I would not consider to be the "slightest thing." Splitting up may help in certain circumstances. It's not pretty but it may help the partner facing jail time to take responsibility for their actions and to know that certain actions come with repercussions. You say "so ur partner has cancer who cares?" Wouldn't you care? It sounds as though you wouldn't yet you say "they need ur support and love." Yes, it is a very tricky situation but this debate is about illness and not the myriad of reasons one might find to disengage themselves from a marriage. Sorry about your husband though.

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Chicken(202) Disputed
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no he didnt make a choice its a long complicated thing but was framed for things how is that in any way a choice? how would splitting help in any way?? in what circumstance would breaking up help?? i didnt mean 'so what?' as in no-one cares, it was a way of voicing inner anguish in the face of sudden death. its not like im incinuating that no-one should care or that no-one cares about you. it can he helped in this whole flu epidemic shit just go on holiday till it goes away or be careful bout who ur with etc.

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