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Implications of Atheism

The idea that there is no God implies some basic beliefs which may or may not be agreed to by atheists.  It is easy to find quotes from leading atheistic thinkers and scientists who admit to and promote these beleifs:

1)Life is ultimately meaningless and futile.
2)Nothing a person does really matters.
3)Whatever I have to do for my own comfort is justified by my existence as long as I exist.
4) I am number one, that's all that really matters


The list goes on, basically all points saying look forward to death in hope of being relieved of responsibility, pain, and suffering.

Atheism basically is the futile effort of a sinner to replace God with himself.  It's stone cold pride, defying God to prove that He is against sin by leaving the atheist in their sin in the fire of Hell.  The Savior who paid the price for their sin is justified to leave them dying forever, frying like eternal sausages in Hell and that's the way it is.  Life means God is good.
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2 points

you are trying to battle atheism with Christian logic. Thats useless.

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I think you're being rather kind when you say ' Christian logic ' , I've yet to witness it

shoutoutloud(4303) Clarified Banned
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Pick your battles right? Haha. .

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Correct. Atheism is void of reason and cannot be battled with logic. If the atheist will not be reasonable, they will believe they are in reality temporarily and ultimately nothing.

shoutoutloud(4303) Disputed Banned
1 point

So why don't you change strategy when your current one ineffective?

jolie(9810) Banned
1 point

Ha, ha, you got banned ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCfyOXJf3ZM
Antrim(1287) Banned
2 points

Hey, do you mind?

You've just succeeded in putting me right off sausages.

However, you make some excellent points, it was the frying like eternal sausages I didn't like.

I mean, you could get someone's dick and maybe a toenail in one of your sausages.

I'm never going to ask my butcher for a lb of eternal sausages ever again.

NowASaint(1380) Disputed
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Good you got turned off from sausage, it's nasty food, very bad for you.

Good you don't like the sound of frying like an eternal sausage in the fire of Hell. I don't like it either, but it is good to know God will one day remove all of the evil of sinners and imprison it in Hell where it won't bother the living any more.

That's about as far as I got reading your post until I saw that you like to talk in a way which enables you to spit your bloody teeth out of your mouth. Kiss your momma, punk, and know you will be banned from my debates for being a foul mouth punk. God loves you. Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved and I won't ban you any more.

Banned for being a pervert.

jolie(9810) Banned
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Ha, ha, you got banned ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCfyOXJf3ZM
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All bogus

1)Life is ultimately meaningless and futile. - Why? Why do you need a promise of eternity to find anything good about living now?

2)Nothing a person does really matters. - Wrong. Atheists, as well as members of other non Christian religions, believe very much in civilization and being good members of it. Meanwhile, in comparison, your Evangelicals have told me they can basically say and do whatever they want to anyone and it doesn't matter so long as they accept Jesus died for their sins. You have this behavior doesn't really matter thing completely on it's head.

3)Whatever I have to do for my own comfort is justified by my existence as long as I exist. - Wrong. Repeat the answer on 2. Furthermore, it's was the religious side on this site this last week arguing that those of us with compassion toward the needy and to social programs were insensitive hypocrites because we obviously didn't care about the burdens we were placing on the Christians living by God's rule. You basically said screw everyone else that doesn't share your narrow view. You only care about your existence.

4) I am number one, that's all that really matters. - Written by the side repeatedly using the ban feature in debates so you can believe your arguments are number one simply because you can censor everyone else.

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
2 points

Listen please my wino cry baby friend....all of the points implied by atheism can easily be shown quoted by leading atheistic thinkers. Of course, the reality of the coldness and emptiness of atheistic belief is a tough pill to swallow for many atheists who feel better about their being if they can appreciate beauty, good things, and acts of kindness.

You still have not learned to put aside your cry baby feelings enough to restrain your tongue from being foul mouthed so you are banned. It's not that I am not happy to present the truth to you, and let you argue against it...it's simply that from the first time I ever saw you post, and continuing here, your approach is that of a punk trying to overpower with arrogance and a foul mouth.

Now notice I have called you only two names (well, three) accurately portraying your words and actions. You are a wino by your own admission, you can't stop drinking wine, can't put it down and leave it alone......you are a cry baby, always whining about being banned.....and you are a punk which gets you banned so you whine some more and try to calm down with a glass of wine.

Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
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all of the points implied by atheism can easily be shown quoted by leading atheistic thinkers.

But not as easy as creating a bullshit debate.

NowASaint(1380) Disputed
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It's ultimately meaningless and futile in atheistic belief. I did not say you cannot find anything good about living now. All good things come from God and provide evidence that God is good. Denying God's goodness implies futility of anything good as it's all lost in death.

Why can't you talk like a man instead of always resorting to devil monkey tactics you punk?

NowASaint(1380) Clarified
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You're an idiot, trying to justify yourself proclaiming how good you are. You don't fool me and you sure can't fool God, your a sinner who deserves to burn in Hell the same as me and everybody else.

If you want to do good things and feel good and enjoy the beauty of nature and not fear God, fine. Do it a lot, it helps to quiet evil of atheist who do not care about the things you care about. If people who say they are Christians think they have a license to sin, I doubt that they are really Christians.

And all you are doing throughout your entire rant is proclaiming how you are justified by your wonderful personality......hahahha, what a joke. If you are justified, why are you dying? You are not justified at all, your unjustified, your a sinner who deserves to burn in Hell the same as me.

Go have a glass of wine and maybe you will feel better.+

Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
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You're an idiot, trying to justify yourself proclaiming how good you are.

That's all you ever do, dumb shit.

NowASaint(1380) Disputed
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I really feel sorry for you. One day God is going to ban you, forever separated from the living, from anything good, and then what you you going to do? You will wail then. Whine now for practice. You are banned. Now whine. It will be similar but much worse in the fire of Hell. And if you are not afraid, well, you might as well have a glass of wine while you can.

jolie(9810) Banned
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Ha, ha, you got banned ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCfyOXJf3ZM
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I don't think you actually understand Atheism.

1)Life is ultimately meaningless and futile.

Wrong. If you have one go at life, make it a good one. You don't have to believe in an afterlife to find meaning in the life you have on Earth.

2)Nothing a person does really matters.

I seriously doubt anyone would say - MLK, Lincoln, Shakespeare, Mozart, Picasso, Marie Curie... and the list goes on and on -, that they did nothing that matters.

3)Whatever I have to do for my own comfort is justified by my existence as long as I exist.

Again, wrong. Members of all faith or no faith have believed in the good of the community. People on this site alone, myself included, have tried to encourage compassion towards others less fortunate, but we've been met with derision and disdain by YOU, a self-proclaimed Christian. The bans you place and the name calling you do, are for your own comfort, your own ego.

4) I am number one, that's all that really matters

When someone refuses to educate themselves on different beliefs, to see other people for who they are and what they do, not what they believe, they epitomize exactly that. They they are number one, that's all that matters; their belief, their way, their word. Gee...that sounds familiar.

jolie(9810) Banned
1 point

Ha, ha, you got banned ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCfyOXJf3ZM
Atrag(5666) Banned
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This pretty much sums up what this guy thinks: he can be as much as a twat as he wants because God will forgive him. Anyone that doesn't believe in God is lower than dogshit and can be treated as such.

Mint_tea(4641) Clarified Banned
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I believe in God but he is convinced that I'm a witch. I consider it a compliment coming from him but I definitely don't weigh the same as a duck. ;D

NowASaint(1380) Disputed
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The devil believes in God. You are very much like the devil, but the devil is smarter than you. You are fooled into thinking you have the right to exist outside of Hell. The devil knows he will be burning in the lake of fire forever.

NowASaint(1380) Disputed
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Atheism basically is the futile effort of a sinner to replace God with himself. It's stone cold pride, defying God to prove that He is against sin by leaving the atheist in their sin in the fire of Hell. The Savior who paid the price for their sin is justified to leave them dying forever, frying like eternal sausages in Hell and that's the way it is. Life means God is good.

Cartman(18192) Disputed Banned
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Haha. You claimed Atrag was cussing at God when he cussed at you. You replace yourself with God all the time. You believe you are an atheist. Haha.

jolie(9810) Banned
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Ha, ha, you got banned ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCfyOXJf3ZM
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And a good God is always pretty convenient to his worshippers - torture anyone who doesn't worship him for eternity. Luckily, that can exist only in imagination of idiots.

You do understand that you seem no more than a random fanatical fundamentalist by your claims, right?

NowASaint(1380) Disputed
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It is your sins which separate you from God, God offers you pardon based on the fact that He paid for your sins with His own blood, you refuse to accept what He did for you so you have to pay for your own sins. What you call being tortured is your own choice. You can be relieved but you choose rather to defy God and you have nobody but yourself to blame if you will not repent of your sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you wake up in the fire of Hell frying like an eternal screaming sizzling sausage with no way out.

You do understand that you talk like a devil while you are as dumb as a rock? The devil knows his end in the fire of Hell. You think you can talk your way out of it. The devil has you fooled. I feel sorry for you. Try to think rationally while you are banned here.

JatinNagpal(2678) Disputed Banned
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With your reply, I wondered how you haven't banned me. Till the last line - yes, you forgot doing it (rather than, say, finally becoming more rational.)

So, why are you so willing to follow such archaic ideas like a zombie?

Your master must have been quite effective with you.

NowASaint(1380) Disputed
1 point

It is your sins which separate you from God, God offers you pardon based on the fact that He paid for your sins with His own blood, you refuse to accept what He did for you so you have to pay for your own sins. What you call being tortured is your own choice. You can be relieved but you choose rather to defy God and you have nobody but yourself to blame if you will not repent of your sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you wake up in the fire of Hell frying like an eternal screaming sizzling sausage with no way out.

You do understand that you talk like a devil while you are as dumb as a rock? The devil knows his end in the fire of Hell. You think you can talk your way out of it. The devil has you fooled. I feel sorry for you. Try to think rationally while you are banned here.