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Government Individuals
Debate Score:67
Arguments:50
Total Votes:74
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In history, who is the biggest culprit in murder?

Government

Side Score: 34
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Individuals

Side Score: 33

The government since it is their propaganda that their interests be made into motion by any means necessary. It would be obvious since the governments of the major super powers of the world decided on creating world war 1 and 2. They did `t even ask for the approval of their citizens.

Side: Government
1 point

Yes, yes

Side: Individuals
1 point

Yes, yes

Side: Individuals
1 point

Yes, yes

Side: Individuals
1 point

The facts do not lie. Individuals simply do not have the resources to kill on such a scale.

Side: Government
1 point

Yes, yes

Side: Individuals

Wars are declared by Governments and outshine the murders performed by individuals.

Side: Government
1 point

Yes, yes

Side: Individuals

According to the University of Hawaii, democide is the leading cause of unnatural death in the world, 262,000,000 people killed by government just in the 20th Century.

THEREFORE, ask yourself, who is the greatest perpetrator of violence?

Supporting Evidence: Murder (www.hawaii.edu)
Side: Government
Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
2 points

I'm pretty sure that nothing can beat Abrahamic religions.

Side: Individuals
1 point

Support it with numbers, otherwise as the studies points out, it is government consisting of 262,000,000 people just from 1900-1999.

Side: Government

Don't forget the death toll from all the wars.

Side: Government

True, the study seemed to have missed the number of deaths caused by war. It really only covers when government kills because of political difference within its own citizens, the study totally forgot those killed in wars over political differences between foreign countries.

Side: Government

The number of those killed in war is staggering as well from the 20th and early 21 Century, 160,000,000 people died all under the guise of government warmongering.

420,000,000 died from government just in 100 years.

Supporting Evidence: War (www.scaruffi.com)
Side: Government
1 point

Yes, yes

Side: Individuals
Banana_Slug(845) Clarified
0 points

his number is a bullshit .

Side: Government
Banana_Slug(845) Disputed
1 point

I've checked your source, it Includes all losses in first and second world war. There is random number (colonialism) without date with random number of 50M dead.

Also there is added another random number called "world total 87-99" with random rounding number of 1 331 000 dead.

UK killed 800 000 of their people? :D :D How does this slipped out from my history classes :D

The table is more than 160 000 000 off... this is without any Googling, just what I remember from my high school, which is a kind of institution you have obviously never attended.

Side: Individuals
dkforizzle(175) Disputed
1 point

What do you know? You dismissed his argument based on a faulty resource, but you have no resources or even any argument to support your assertion. Hes never been to school? becuae he used a faulty resource that is still not even proved to be faulty? You claimed it were faulty based on nothing but your own education, but in a debate you haave to show EVIDENCE!! So before you make a claim like someone is uneducated you have to actually show why. Youre a fucking retard and if you would like to challenge me to a debate I will accept.

Side: Government
1 point

Yes, yes

Side: Government
0 points

Not only in history but also till today and in the future also.

Side: Government
7 points

Governments are made up of individuals, so it is the individual that kills.

Side: Individuals
3 points

Sure, but those individuals wouldn't have done those murders without the force of government edict.

Side: Government
RamyaD(20) Disputed
2 points

Governments are groups of individuals. So the thoughts are more effective than a single individual thoughts. Just clarifying.

Side: Government
Cambriel(711) Disputed
2 points

Without those individuals then there would be no government. SO the thought of a single individual matters most on how it would shape the government, not the other way around.

Side: Individuals
Thewayitis(4071) Disputed
2 points

Since when has any government been effective ?

Side: Individuals
1 point

Yes, yes

Side: Individuals
tpgus111 Disputed
2 points

Although it's made up of indivisuals, it has a completly different characteristic when it becomes a goverment.

Side: Government
1 point

Yes, yes

Side: Individuals
1 point

Yes, yes

Side: Government
2 points

It's obviously the choice that any individual makes.

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Side: Individuals
1 point

Yes, yes

Side: Government