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Iranian harrassment of US warships was 36 in 2016. It was 0 in 2018.
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I fought in Vietnam.. Trump had bone spurs.. The ONLY thing I think about Trump and war, is he's a COWARD. I'll NEVER think otherwise.. Trump attended a military school. Now tell me about Bill Clinton and Barack Obama's time in military institutions. I'll wait... Side: Trump happened
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As per usual you are attributing your own false explanations to things which even the US Navy admits are a complete mystery. Indeed, the Navy Times says:- For the past two years, Iranian “fast boats,” armed with .50-caliber machine guns and rocket launchers, have been sailing within shooting range of U.S. Navy ships, exacerbating an already strained relationship. https://www.navytimes.com/news/your- That story was written at the end of January 2018, which means Iranian ships were "harassing" American ships for a full fifteen months while Trump was in charge of America. Honestly Bronto/Caspion, you're a cancerous weasel who comes here to duplicate Nazi propaganda from the late 1930s. Your false correlations literally reek of the same opportunistic bullshit peddled by Joseph Goebbels. Fuck off. You are not wanted on this website by either the owner or any of the people who come here for honest debate. Side: Trump happened
For the past two years, Iranian “fast boats,” armed with .50-caliber machine guns and rocket launchers, have been sailing within shooting range of U.S. Navy ships, exacerbating an already strained relationship. Which has nothing to do with attacks on American vessels. That story was written at the end of January 2018, which means Iranian ships were "harassing" American ships for a full fifteen months while Trump was in charge of America. You've shown not one example of Iranians harrassing U.S. vessels. Your false correlations You proved him wrong on nothing as of yet. We'll wait...forever...maybe longer... literally reek of the same opportunistic bullshit peddled by Joseph Goebbels. Goebbels was a Communist who used propaganda to attack the church. Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight. As quoted in The New York Times, “Hitlerite Riot in Berlin: Beer Glasses Fly When Speaker Compares Hitler to Lenin,” November 28, 1925 (Goebbels' speech Nov. 27, 1925) https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/JosephGoebbels We can see the commencement of our own national and socialist survival in an alliance with a truly national and socialist Russia. National Socialist Letters (NS-Briefe), Nov 15, 1925 Capitalism is the immoral distribution of capital… Germany will become free at that moment when the thirty millions on the left and the thirty millions on the right make common cause. Only one movement is capable of doing this: National Socialism, embodied in one Führer – Adolf Hitler. Goebbels’ “Lenin or Hitler” speech first delivered on September 17, 1925 Side: We got our balls back?
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Which has nothing to do with attacks on American vessels. Of course, you deranged lunatic. Just like "Cohen's crimes had nothing to do with Trump, right?" Everything you write is transparently false to the point that it is retarded. You are a hilariously corrupt, lying, intellectually defective piece of shit. Your own debate title says "harrassmment (sic)" you impossibly thick, persistently hyperactive imbecile. If you want to talk about "attacks on American vessels" then go back and write what you mean you paradoxical neo-Nazi farce. Side: Trump happened
Of course, you deranged lunatic. Just like "Cohen's crimes had nothing to do with Trump, right? Nope. His tax fraud happened years before Trump ran for President. That's why the lib media was in a frenzy for about a day. Your own debate title says "harrassmment And no harrassment has happened under Trump, per the military definition, meaning, being fired upon. Side: We got our balls back?
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Goebbels was a Communist He was literally chief of propaganda for the German Nazi Party you impossibly stupid cretin. The Nazis murdered over three million Communists. Hitler frequently claimed his single greatest aim in politics was to forcibly eradicate Communism from Europe, which explains poignantly why you incessantly repeat the exact same lies about Communism as he did. You are both evil Nazi pieces of shit. Born liars, both of you. Side: Trump happened
He was literally chief of propaganda for the German Nazi Party you impossibly stupid cretin And was a Communist who said Nazism was basically Communism. Goebbels- Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight. As quoted in The New York Times, “Hitlerite Riot in Berlin: Beer Glasses Fly When Speaker Compares Hitler to Lenin,” November 28, 1925 (Goebbels' speech Nov. 27, 1925) In other words, the difference between you and Hitler isn't much. Hitler frequently claimed his single greatest aim in politics was to forcibly eradicate Communism from Europe He said Capitalism was a Jewish conspiracy. Then he allied with Communists to invade right wing Poland. Side: We got our balls back?
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Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight. Germany was in the grip of a Communist revolution sweeping across Eastern Europe you fucking deceitful little arse. You literally are repeating lies told by Nazis during the 1930s to win votes from German Communists and pretending they are true. Fuck off. Side: Trump happened
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His literal biggest enemy was socialist USSR and he murdered socialists after he got into power. Hitler allied with the USSR to invade a right wing country. Not a very right wing thing to do. Goebbels also claimed the USSR as an ideological relative. He also murdered Jews, who he referred to as right wing capitalists. He also abused drugs. Another not very right wing thing to do. He chastised the church. Yet again. Not very right wingy. His greatest critic was a devout right winger. Side: We got our balls back?
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Hitler allied with the USSR to invade a right wing country. No he didn't. Goebbels also claimed the USSR as an ideological relative. No he didn't. He also murdered Jews, who he referred to as right wing capitalists. He killed communist Jews and said communism was a jewish conspiracy. He also abused drugs. Another not very right wing thing to do. Alcohol counts as a drug, marijuana is safer and better for you than alcohol. He chastised the church. Yet again. Not very right wingy. Hitler was an occultist and the Nazis had an esoteric pagan religion. That doesn't stop him from being a fascist right winger. I thought muslims were right wing Bronto, they chastise christians don't they? His greatest critic was a devout right winger. He was praised by right wingers in America and europe. Side: Trump happened
(Hitler allied with the USSR to invade a right wing country.) No he didn't. The Invasion of Poland, known in Poland as the September Campaign (Kampania wrześniowa) or the 1939 Defensive War (Wojna obronna 1939 roku), and in Germany as the Poland Campaign (Polenfeldzug), was an invasion of Poland by Germany that marked the beginning of World War II. The German invasion began on 1 September 1939, one week after the signing of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact between Germany and the Soviet Union. The Soviets invaded Poland on 17 September following the Molotov–Tōgō agreement that terminated the Soviet and Japanese Battles of Khalkhin Gol in the east on 16 September.[14] The campaign ended on 6 October with Germany and the Soviet Union dividing and annexing the whole of Poland under the terms of the German–Soviet Frontier Treaty. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion ofPoland (Goebbels also claimed the USSR as an ideological relative.) No he didn't. Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight. As quoted in The New York Times, “Hitlerite Riot in Berlin: Beer Glasses Fly When Speaker Compares Hitler to Lenin,” November 28, 1925 (Goebbels' speech Nov. 27, 1925) Side: We got our balls back?
He killed communist Jews and said communism was a jewish conspiracy And you make his claim that capitalism is a Jewish conspiracy often. (He also abused drugs. Another not very right wing thing to do.) Alcohol counts as a drug, marijuana is safer and better for you than alcohol. And Hitler's drug cocktail abuse is a left wing habit. Hitler was an occultist and the Nazis had an esoteric pagan religion. That doesn't stop him from being a fascist right winger. No, his socialist ideology does. I thought muslims were right wing Bronto, they chastise christians don't they? Muslims are right wing. They attack Christians due to a holy book's words. Hitler attacked them because he was a left wing bigot. His greatest critic was a devout right winger. He was praised by right wingers in America and europe. He was attacked vigorously by the American and European right, including Churchill and George Patton. Side: We got our balls back?
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you make his claim that capitalism is a Jewish conspiracy often I've never even said that. This is you literally making shit up like the lying douche nugget you are. Hitler's drug cocktail abuse is a left wing habit. Drug use has nothing to do with the left wing. People in all places on the spectrum use drugs. Side: Trump happened
I've never even said that. This is you literally making shit up like the lying douche nugget you are. Sure you have. You've called me a "Jewish capitalist prick". Remember Adolf? Hitler's drug cocktail abuse is a left wing habit. Drug use has nothing to do with the left wing. People in all places on the spectrum use drugs Not these drugs. These were left wing. Side: We got our balls back?
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"Jewish capitalist prick". If someone is both a Jew, a capitalist, and a prick, it's not anti-semitic to call them a Jewish capitalist prick. Not these drugs. These were left wing. He got them from a very capitalist PRIVATE doctor who profited most profitably from Hitler's right wing drug habits. Side: Trump happened
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No, his socialist ideology does. I honestly don't understand what you think is socialist about Hitler. You must have no idea what socialism means or something. Hitler attacked them because he was a left wing bigot. You're full of such shit. Hitler attacked everyone who wasn't a Nazi or an ally of the Nazis. Side: Trump happened
I honestly don't understand what you think is socialist about Hitler. You must have no idea what socialism means or something All of his quotes on socialism and capitalism by name and you declaring your disagreement with him was that he thought the government should control the means of production. And you were right. He did claim that. You're full of such shit. Hitler attacked everyone who wasn't a Nazi or an ally of the Nazis. Mainly Catholics and Jews, just like the left today. If I provided a link of Hitler quotes, no one would say the rhetoric was right wing. Hey look, here's a link. Side: We got our balls back?
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All of his quotes on socialism and capitalism Instead of looking at what Hitler SAID, you have to look at what he DID. He murdered left wingers, Did not make any attempt to remove class from society and waged total war on Marxists. Mainly Catholics and Jews, just like the left today. I hear a lot of right wingers say that catholics are liberals and Jews are socialists who control the Illuminati. Side: Trump happened
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Demonized a right wing Churchill, and allied with Communists to invade right wing Poland, while demonizing the church. Demonized Marxists, was mortal enemies with the USSR and murdered left wingers in the German government. 1)referenced Marxism too many times to count. 2)demonized the church and glorified Islam. 3)Demonized a right wing Churchill, and allied with Communists to invade right wing Poland while later being allied with Palestine, whom the left still sides with to this day. Side: We got our balls back?
And let us not forget that Hitler was a German familiar with Marx, also a German, and we both know fully well Marx's views on the neccessity for certain races to be exterminated. https://fee.org/articles/ Anti-Racists Should Think Twice about Allying with Socialism Modern racial justice movements like Black Lives Matter are embracing the historically false assumption that socialism is anti-racist. Speaking to the Los Angeles Times last August, the co-founder of Black Lives Matter, Patrisse Cullors, stated that BLM would not sit at the table with President Trump because he “is literally the epitome of evil, all the evils of this country—be it racism, capitalism, sexism, homophobia”. Trump’s views and actions aside, calling capitalism evil and conflating it with racism is noteworthy. The same goes for the increasing tendency among racial justice advocates to embrace the left-wing economic agenda. So much so that Ryan Cooper, a columnist for The Week, wrote a column titled, "Is Black Lives Matter turning socialist?" As Cooper approvingly noted, BLM has adopted a “hugely aggressive—and firmly leftist—economic program”. On the other side of the Atlantic, Natalie Jeffers, who cofounded BLM in the United Kingdom, urged her followers to: “Fight racism with solidarity. Fight capitalism with socialism. We must organize—dedicate ourselves to revolutionary politic power.” The Black Lives Matter Movement, a separate British organization, was founded by Gary McFarlane, a representative of the Socialist Workers Party, who writes for the Socialist Review and the Socialist Worker, and claims that “Capitalism is racist from the top to the bottom.” His cofounders, including Kate Hurford, Harold Wilson, and Naima Omar, have also written for those two publications. There is, in other words, a growing assumption among racial justice advocates that more socialism would result in less racism and, even, that socialism is, in itself, anti-racist. There is, in fact, no such necessary connection between socialism and anti-racism, as a closer look at early socialist writings amply shows. Socialists Had a Lot to Say About Race To begin, it is important to note that the meaning of the word “race” changed over time. Today, most people think of races in terms of color, as in “black” and “white.” Historically, however, race was also a synonym for a nation or, even, a family. In his 1933 book, Marlborough: His Life and Times, Winston Churchill noted: “Deep in the heart of the Prussian state and race lay the antagonism to France.” The English artist Mary Granville, in turn, referred to Churchill’s family as the “Marlborough race” in her 1861 book, Autobiography and Correspondence. Race was always a part of socialist thought. But race, whether narrowly (black and white) or broadly (skin color, nation, and family) understood, was always a part of socialist thought. In 1894, for example, Friedrich Engels wrote a letter to the German economist Walther Borgius. In it, Engels noted, “We regard economic conditions as that which ultimately determines historical development, but race is in itself an economic factor.” In his 1877 Notes to Anti-Dühring, Engels elaborated on the subject of race, observing “that the inheritance of acquired characteristics extended … from the individual to the species.” He went on, “If, for instance, among us mathematical axioms seem self-evident to every eight-year-old child and in no need of proof from evidence that is solely the result of ‘accumulated inheritance.’ It would be difficult to teach them by proof to a bushman or to an Australian Negro.” It is noteworthy that Engels wrote those words 16 years before Francis Galton, writing in Macmillan’s Magazine, urged humanity to take control of its own evolution by means of “good breeding” or eugenics. Speaking of which, Sidney and Beatrice Webb, who were both socialists and eugenicists, bemoaned the falling birthrates among so-called higher races in the New Statesman in 1913. They warned that “a new social order [would be] developed by one or other of the colored races, the Negro, the Kaffir or the Chinese”. Che Guevara, the Argentine revolutionary and friend of the Cuban dictator Fidel Castro, offered his views on race in his 1952 memoir The Motorcycle Diaries, writing, “The Negro is indolent and lazy and spends his money on frivolities, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent.” Karl Marx came close to advocating genocide. Socialists Are Historically Pro-Genocide In addition to racism, early socialist writings contained explicit calls for genocide of backward peoples. The toxic mix of those two illiberal ideas would result in at least 80 million deaths during the course of the 20th century. In the New York Tribune in 1853, Karl Marx came close to advocating genocide, writing, “The classes and the races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way.” His friend and collaborator, Engels, was more explicit. In 1849, Engels published an article in Marx’s newspaper, Neue Rheinische Zeitung. In it, Engels condemned the rural populations of the Austrian Empire for failing enthusiastically to partake in the revolution of 1848. This was a seminal moment, the importance of which cannot be overstated. From Engels' article in 1849 down to the death of Hitler,” George Watson wrote in his 1998 book The Lost Literature of Socialism, “everyone who advocated genocide called himself a socialist.” Side: We got our balls back?
I hear a lot of right wingers say that catholics are liberals Which isn't the same as threatening them with death or muzzling their priests with lethal force. And most white Catholics vote Republican by far, which would be the particular Catholics Hitler demonized. and Jews are socialists who control the Illuminati Name one. Side: We got our balls back?
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Themes in Nazi propaganda The propaganda of the National Socialist German Workers' Party regime that governed Germany from 1933 to 1945 promoted Nazi ideology by demonizing the enemies of the Nazi Party, notably Jews and communists, but also capitalists and intellectuals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThemesinNazi_propaganda But wait. That can't be true because Bronto just told me the Nazi Minister of Propaganda was a Communist. How can he be anti-Communist if he's a Communist? Either reality is a paradox or Bronto is literally a lying Nazi piece of shit who hates Communists. Side: Trump happened
but also capitalists and intellectuals. So he demonized people like Trump, me and Jews. Just like you. But wait. That can't be true because Bronto just told me the Nazi Minister of Propaganda was a Communist Goebbels- The NSDAP is the German Left. We despise bourgeois nationalism. Der Angriff, (Dec. 6, 1931) written by Goebbels. Der Angriff (The Attack) was the official newspaper of the Nazi-Sozi party in Berlin. Goebbels- The people's community must not be a mere phrase, but a revolutionary achievement following from the radical carrying out of the basic life needs of the working class. A ruthless battle against corruption! A war against exploitation, freedom for the workers! The elimination of all economic-capitalist influences on national policy. Maintaining a rotten economic system has nothing to do with nationalism, which is an affirmation of the Fatherland. Written by Joseph Goebbels and Mjölnir, Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler. Etwas zum Nachdenken (Munich: Verlag Frz. Eher (1932). “Those Damned Nazis,” (Nazi propaganda pamphlet). The worker in a capitalist state—and that is his deepest misfortune—is no longer a living human being, a creator, a maker. He has become a machine. A number, a cog in the machine without sense or understanding. He is alienated from what he produces.” Written by Joseph Goebbels and Mjölnir, Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler. Etwas zum Nachdenken (Munich: Verlag Frz. Eher, 1932).Translated as “Those Damned Nazis,” (propaganda pamphlet). Side: We got our balls back?
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Anti-communist mass killings German communists, socialists and trade unionists were among the earliest domestic opponents of Nazism[50] and they were also among the first to be sent to concentration camps. Adolf Hitler claimed that communism was a Jewish ideology which the Nazis termed "Judeo-Bolshevism". Fear of communist agitation was used to justify the Enabling Act of 1933, the law which gave Hitler plenary powers. Hermann Göring later testified at the Nuremberg Trials that the Nazis' willingness to repress German communists prompted President Paul von Hindenburg and the German elite to cooperate with the Nazis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Side: Trump happened
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