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Debate Score:83
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Is Agnosticism bullshit?

Yes

Side Score: 32
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No

Side Score: 51
2 points

Of course it is. Agnostics are merely fence-sitters waiting for somebody to give them a shove to one side or the other.

Side: Yes
Sitara(11088) Disputed
2 points

No, they are merely undecided on the existance of a god or gods. .

Side: No
libertyFTW(213) Disputed
1 point

Well than they don't believe, if they are basing their ideology on evidence than they do not believe so agnostics are really just atheists with second thoughts.

Side: Yes
AveSatanas(4415) Disputed
1 point

Actually technically everybody is an agnostic to some degree. Atheists and theists are also agnostic at the same time. You might think you KNOW that there is a god or isn't one, but in the end you don't know because we can't know as of right now because there's no way to test for him.

Agnosticism isn't bullshit, it's being honest. I'm an atheist but I'm also an agnostic because I don't believe I god, but I can't know for sure that he isn't real for sure.

Side: No
libertyFTW(213) Disputed
1 point

Yes we are all Agnostic, but Agnosticism is an ideology based on knowledge Christianity and Atheism are ideologies based on belief, So I have A question for you. Who is more likely to be right Christians or Atheists? One of them has to have the edge!

Side: Yes
Warjin(1577) Disputed
1 point

Agnostic just means "We don't not know" so until we have proof we will remain neutral on the subject.

Here is an example, now this might sound strange but it is necessary to prove my point

Okay let the twisted questions begin: what's my favorite color and my lucky number?

Below I will give you clues

a) That I am male.

b) I am Hispanic

c) I am 35 years of age

d) I am 5 foot 7

e) I have blue eyes

f) I have dark hair

*now from that info, how do you know how and what my favorite color and lucky number are, or if I have a favorite color or lucky number at all, or maybe I am just pulling all your chains and I am just a automated computer program, how can you know for certain, unless you asked and I told, seen and met me first hand, you have no hard proof on any of the questions.

Look only fools pass belief as truth (fact) without proof, only true hard fact can tell if I am really what I claim to be, or if am real at all.

Why are people in such hurry to pick a side on a matter with no hard evidence, I say lets take time out to weight our options with hard proof not speculation before calling ourselves anything.

Side: No
2 points

Well, maybe not a bullshit, but surely a way anyone has in order to keep his undecided position while pretending to have an idea. And what "idea".

Side: Yes
2 points

Agnostics are atheist scared of death! I could delve into greater philosophical depths with my argument, like are we 100% sure of anything but instead I have cut the crap my friends.

Side: Yes

Agnosticism is a term when you don't know, or don't have an opinion on whether God exists or not.

I think this is the most logical thing ever, no one can really know what is after life, so why try to find out?

Side: No
2 points

It's the most logical. It doesn't claim yes, and it doesn't claim know. It says, the truth. I don't know.

Side: No
libertyFTW(213) Disputed
1 point

Yes but the question is not, do you know if there is a god? It is, do you believe in god?

Side: Yes
Quocalimar(6470) Disputed
1 point

How can you believe what you don't know? How can you entirely disbelieve what you don't know?

Side: No
0 points

It doesn't claim yes, and it doesn't claim know.

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE....

Side: No
2 points

We believe that we just CAN'T KNOW. It's not bullshit, it's just that there isn't enough evidence to prove God exists, but that doesn't mean He doesn't.

If anything, we're way more open minded and logical than Religious People and Atheists.

Also, I don't think it's fair for you to call another's beliefs bullshit, when you don't know for sure the truth; none of us do. That's why I'm Agnostic.

Side: No
libertyFTW(213) Disputed
1 point

We are all agnostic but that is not what matters, the question is do you believe? Not do you know?

Side: Yes
hannah165(520) Clarified
2 points

the question is do you believe? Not do you know?

I'm confused. The question is Is Agnosticism bullshit?. I don't understand what you mean, could you clarify?

Side: Yes
1 point

No, it's not bullshit, because it is not mutually exclusive from atheism or theism. Many agnostics, like myself, seem to be atheists as well, whether or not they call themselves atheists.

Side: No
0 points

I disagree with it, but no. Freedom of belief is a fundamental right.

Side: No

One can believe that their theory is correct while being open to refutation.

An agnostic can believe in the existence of God, but recognize that the burden of proof remains.

An agnostic can believe that there is no God, but recognize the idea as an explanation among many.

Atheists do not recognize the idea as an explanation, and those of faith do not care about proof.

Side: No
libertyFTW(213) Disputed
1 point

Once again that is why we are all fucking Agnostic!! Some of don't recognize the idea as an explanation but they still don't fucking know if there is a god besides most Atheists do recognize the idea as an explanation!

Side: Yes
0 points

Yes but the question is not, do you know if there is a god? It is, do you believe in god?

Exactly. Atheists and religionists think they know (at least they act like it), Agnostics are the only ones who don't think they know, even if they believe one way or another.

Side: No

Agnostics are really indifferent to the existence of God, so this is the reason for the uncertainty.

Side: No
libertyFTW(213) Disputed
1 point

Yes but indifference is still no belief and no belief is Atheism.

Side: Yes
0 points

Wrong, Agnosticism is uncertainty in belief, not no belief. Big difference.

Side: No
0 points

No, anyone who calls Agonsticism should really not be surprised if what they believe in is called Bullshit too. Its called backlash, there is no need to tread on others ways of thinking - let them figure life out themselves in their own way.

Side: No
0 points

I honestly don't understand why everybody isn't Agnostic.

Side: No
0 points

No it just means "I don't know" nothing wrong with that, I am a scientist in my own right and I will tell you first hand, science can not prove nor disprove God, what I can say with 99.999% certainty is that the religious version of God is bull shit, but not the existence of a creator.

To be an agnostic is to be scientific until you are proved otherwise, I am agnostic on the subjects of dark matter, dark energy ect. even though all signs point to yes, but until we have 100% proof like we do gravity I will remain agnostic on those matters as well as a creator, (God, Allah or what ever one may call it)

Side: No
libertyFTW(213) Disputed
1 point

The point I am making is that nobody knows everybody is agnostic but that is not interesting. Once you are agnostic you have not answered the theological question. You are not being asked to know if there is a God or not, we know you can't know that you're being asked do you believe in God? If you are Agnostic enough to not know what you believe is you are still an Atheist because according to the definition of believe it means "to feel sure of the truth" therefor belief must be an active thing, that you have to actively believe in something. So by definition if you don't know that there is a God than you don't believe that there is a God. Theologically Agnosticism is not accurate and neither is Apatheism because neither deal with with belief.

Side: Yes
libertyFTW(213) Disputed
1 point

You can logically be Agnostic we are all logically Agnostic but we can not be theologically Agnostic that is out of the question.

Side: Yes
0 points

It's basically just being honest. How is being honest bullshit?

Side: No
libertyFTW(213) Disputed
1 point

Theologically it is bullshit. According to my dictionary the definition of believe is "to feel sure of something" therefor belief has to be active and shifting. If you do not know if you believe in God or not that technically means you do not believe because you do not actively believe in God therefor you are an atheist. Proving Apatheism wrong is even easier, you don't care if there is a God or not therefor you still do not actively believe in God and you know the rest.

Side: Yes
Nebeling(1118) Disputed
0 points

I think you are misinterpreting what is meant by Agnosticism. Agnosticism doesn't claim to believe or not to believe God. The only claim Agnosticism makes is that whether God exists or doesn't exists is unknowable and therefore irrelevant. Agnosticism is thus an epistemological position, it's not a metaphysical position. Agnosticism is completely withdrawed from the actual content of the theism debate.

Side: No
0 points

Why take a side on something nobody knows the answer to?

Side: No
libertyFTW(213) Clarified
1 point

The point I am making is that belief is active if somebody does not know what they believe than they do not believe. Agnosticism theologically is inaccurate everybody has to take a side and if you don't take a side than you are an atheist meaning non theistic.

Side: Yes
Warlin(1212) Disputed
2 points

There's a flaw in all of this: Agnostics don't 'believe' in anything. Atheists, however, believe that there is no god, and theists believe there is. So yeah, I do think you can take a position of not taking a position, if that makes any sense.

Agnosticism isn't really bullshit, it's just not taking a side on something that nobody has definitive answer to.

Side: Yes

It is the most objective stance to have and is right that you can never know for sure however I'm pretty convinced there is no God so I am an Atheist instead of Agnostic.

Side: No