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CreateDebate or DebateIsland.c Debate.org
Debate Score:55
Arguments:26
Total Votes:62
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Is CreateDebate or DebateIsland better than Debate.org for online debates?


The top 3 online debating options I would like to compare are Debate.org, CreateDebate.com, and an up-and-comer DebateIsland.com.  To make the voting process truly democratic I posted the same debate on each of these sites, please vote here, and if you have accounts on the other 2 sites, please vote there as well.

Please see our debate on debate.org and vote at 
http://www.debate.org/debates/Is-CreateDebate-or-DebateIsland-better-than-Debate.org-for-online-debates/1/

On debateIsland at
http://www.debateisland.com/discussion/502/is-debateisland-better-than-debate-org-or-createdebate-for-online-debates


Debate.org is by far the oldest and most established online debating community.  It offers the most robust formal debating functionality with comprehensive debate profiles and multiple formal rounds of debating, followed by voting. Debate.org is a leader for formal multi-day 1-1 debating in front of an online audience.  Some of the debates are highly offensive, and many debates get very little traction taking dates to complete (if you are lucky that it doesn't get abandoned all together).

CreateDebate.com is also a well established online debating site. It offers a comprehensive profiling and polling system, and a large community. The quality of discussion is often lacking, and some of the content maybe highly offensive.

DebateIsland.com is the newer offering for online debating.  It has a fast growing engaged community and an elegant debating and polling experience that is right-sized for casual debating.  What also stands out for DebateIsland that it is the most mobile-friendly and seems to be the most civil in its discussions and content. It can benefit from more comprehensive user profiles.



Bottom line:

I suggest DebateIsland as my favorite.  While it lacks some of the formal multi-round features and comprehensive profiles, I feel that its elegance of unified comments/debates/polling just works.  The content is moderated and civility of its user base is a refreshing experience.

My second favorite is CreateDebate.  It still has comprehensive user profiles and sophisticated voting, but doesn't limit you to 1-1 debating. I think it is better than Debate.org for most users who'd like more causal debating, but it is still too clunky and not as good as DebateIsland.  I am also concerned about quality of content and vulgar language on that site.

In conclusion,
I vote that there are better options than debate.org for mainstream debaters.


CreateDebate or DebateIsland.c

Side Score: 46
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Debate.org

Side Score: 9

I don't really enjoy 1-1 debating - that's a too limited format.

So, I chose CD to debate.org. Others don't have a community big enough.

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Likewise. Plus, I've realized CreateDebate is more relaxed .

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1 point

I agree that both DebateIsland and CreateDebate are more relaxed than debate.org

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1 point

I agree with that too. Way too formal for me. There should be more structure than Reddit, but much less than debate.org

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Yes, I like a free-for-all format in debates.

1-on-1 is preferable only in few cases.

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debate.org is a liberal propaganda machine. If you put anything contrary to the Nazi cult of Liberalism, you are blocked.

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I agree that debate.org is weighted too much towards liberals. Same is true for many other sites like reddit

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2 points

I love creadtedebate it gives me meaning in life and i love to be a jood freid please let me stay i am german

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Inc4t(43) Clarified
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Wow, that is one strong argument - you must really love it to say it gives you meaning in life!

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2 points

Debate.org is filled with trolls and is extremely buggy. Also, the moderation is terrible and while they don't ban trolls, they will ban you if you say anything right of liberalism, or edit your post and try make you look stupid.

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1 point

forandagainst.com is another debate site. i haven't really looked into it that much but it is another site for anyone looking for new debate sites

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Inc4t(43) Clarified
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I checked the site you mentioned and it seems to have very little activity compared to the 3 sites reviewed here. I personally cannot see How it is a contender, especially given overwhelming support For other options. But, thank you for pointing out another option to debate. I think other users pointed our reddit as another alternative they use to debate as well. There seems to be a long tail out there for what can be used.

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yeah i just started looking into it and it doesnt look too active. just tossing out some ideas

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1 point

At the top of this page is an "About" in the menu bar - open it and it states :-

"CreateDebate is a new social networking community built around ideas, discussion and democracy. We’ve done our best to provide our community with a framework that makes compelling and meaningful debates easy to create and fun to use.

Our goal is to build CreateDebate into an incredibly useful learning tool that will help groups of people to sort through issues, viewpoints and opinions so that consensus and understanding can be reached and better decisions can be made".

Unfortunately human intervention is predictable, if we used Create Debate for the purpose it was established then there would be no need to debate this topic.

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Inc4t(43) Clarified
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Mission statement and reality of execution as you pointed out don't always work out. Debaters are looking for the best overall debate exoerience, and that includes site features, community, and just-right level of moderation. The answer to that is imho is not debate.org. I do see many of the elements of the original mission on this site though, as well as the other 2 sites.

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Thank you all who participated so far. Wanted to provide a checkpoint since I posted this debate on all 3 sites yesterday:

On Debate.org - winning 5 to 3

http://www.debate.org/debates/Is-CreateDebate-or-DebateIsland-better-than-Debate.org-for-online-debates/1/

On debateIsland - winning 10-0

http://www.debateisland.com/discussion/502/is-debateisland-better-than-debate-org-or-createdebate-for-online-debates

On CreateDebate winning 28-4

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ Is CreateDebateorDebateIslandbetterthanDebateorgforonlinedebates

Please continue debating. Thanks.

Side: CreateDebate or DebateIsland.c
1 point

I didn't even see this before I commented, but proves my point. 8 votes at debate.org, 10 at debateisland, and 32 here.

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I've looked at debate.org and I'm not a fan of online 1-1 debates. There's too much time between arguments on this site, but to wait for one particular person on debate.org...no thanks. I've also seen many debates there become abandoned.

As inactive as CreateDebate seems at times, DebateIsland is much worse. There have only been a handful of comments made in the past few days. Hell, someone made a debate about evolution and I was the only one to comment on it and that was 2 days ago (usually a topic most jump at).

For me, CreateDebate is the winner.

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Inc4t(43) Clarified
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So completely with you on the debate.org. That was the exact point I argued on my debate - people don't want to wait so long. My debate.org opponent is trying to argue that both CreateDebate and DebateIsland are polling sites (not debate sites). I am confused by his argument.

Even this debate got so much more traction on both other sites.

I also agree that CreateDebate is more active than DebateIsland. Debate Island is much newer and has been growing fast, but it has not yet caught up to multi-year create debate audience. I have personally seen it grow so fast in participation in one month that I have been debating there, and at some point soon it will likely outgrow the other 2 sites.

My preference is still DebateIsland, as I prefer simplicity and elegance of its user interface and it works better on mobile for me. I think they also have better foul language filtering and moderation, as so far I have not seen offensive content. I prefer a clean debating experience without being insulted or offensive material.

I think CreateDebate is also a decent site and is my 2nd choice.

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Inc4t(43) Clarified
1 point

And another point, I just looked at your evolution theory debate and replied to you there. I see that agsr replied to you as well. Not sure why that particular one was not too popular on DebateIsland, but I know that there are many other debates that get a lot more traction.

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I wanted to share my observation with others as I was moderating this debate on CreateDebate. I find it amusing that I have power to vote up and down any arguments made. I find it even more interesting that CreateDebate allows debate creater to ban users from his debate. I didn't realize about these features until I created this particulat debate, as this debate seems to be pretty popular. I would think that other poeple voting on debates here would find it really annoying, especially if they get banned for no good reason. I am thinking of Soup Nazi from Sienfield - "no soup for you" :)

I even see someone posted a debate about specific CreateDebate user always banning arguments.

I have no idea why CreateDebate would think this feature would be a good idea. The whole point is that it should be democratic, not some random guy (or gal) having full power to vote someone down or even ban without any rationale. Strange.

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1 point

Debate.org is way too formal for debating online, especially with a mobile.

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Debate.org still didnot fix their polls. Although that website has so many registered users I don't understand why they don't fix their functionality

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And the majority of users today just play useless mafia to boost their egos

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3 points

Create debate does not have allot of active users, and some of them are spam accounts. So that really takes away from the overall experience.

Side: Debate.org

I not a fan of any of them. Debate.org is too rigid and only allows 1 on 1 debates. CreateDebate is overrun with preachers, trolls, and puppet accounts who have no interest in actually debating. DebateIsland is by far the worst of them all. There isn't really any debating going on there. It's just people making 1 sentence comments, and I think most of them are just the owners of the site creating fake accounts to try to make it look like the site is active. Even if it had more people, without a threaded layout it's nearly impossible to follow conversations.

Reddit is the best place for real debate . There are lots of people to debate with, and most of the debate subreddits are moderated to keep the trolls out and keep things civil. Here are some of the more active debate subreddits.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPolitics/

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAnAtheist

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAChristian

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateEvolution

https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateReligion

https://www.reddit.com/r/Religion

Unfortunately, the subreddits for general debate aren't very active, so you're mostly limited to politics and religion.

Side: Debate.org