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Debate Score:100
Arguments:66
Total Votes:117
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Is Donald Trump doing a good job as president?

Is Trump doing a good job at what he does? What do you think?

Yes

Side Score: 47
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Side Score: 53
3 points

Right because those are really important issues.

Nevermind that he said we would cover everyone with healthcare then went back on it and endorsed a bill that kicks 32 million more off insurance.

Nevermind that he said we need to get out of afghanistan several times AND we need to get out of Syria and he is now bombing syria directly and calling for 4000 more troops to afghanistan.

Nevermind that he has gone on and on about middle class tax cuts then proposes a tax plan where the 1% save nearly a million dollars a year and the average american only saves like 100$.

You know, aside from literally any meaningful policy or legislation yeah hes doing a great job yelling at non-violent political protesters to stand up even though the 1st amendment endorses their exact behavior.

really brilliant

Side: Yes
2 points

Have you noticed how when Trump gets involved with issues, things happen?

For the past decades, none of these issues improved...............

Trump talked tough with illegal immigration. It has dropped in a big way sense he became President, just from Trump's tough words..

Trump talked tough with Nato nations on their not paying their fair share towards military spending. They started payng more!

Trump talked tough with idiots taking a knee during Anthem. Finally the NFL is starting to address it.

We need a President with the guts to tell it like it is, so that things might get done. He does not worry about what his words might do to his political career. He's not a career politician!

He talks off the cuff and does not worry what the Liberal fake news channels will say about him. He actually answers questions rather then being trained for decades in the art of saying what the people want to hear, and then doing the exact opposite.

He's doing a good job, and if the establishment republicans stop acting like Democrats, and come together with Conservatives, this will be the greatest President for change in our lifetimes.

Side: Yes
4 points

I've seen you on Trump arguments before, and I've noticed that almost everything you say can be debunked, and isn't based off of any facts, just how you FEEL about the President. So, just letting you know, you're a liberal-at-heart.

[[Have you noticed how when Trump gets involved with issues, things happen?]]

-- Um... No. I've noticed how things stall and don't come to a resolve. I don't give a shit about Trannies being in the military. I DO give a shit about a healthcare system that replaces the current ObamaCare (which provides healthcare to illegal immigrants, and made the co-pay on my medication that I need to survive jump up from $35 to $175 per refill).

[[For the past decades, none of these issues improved...............

Trump talked tough with illegal immigration. It has dropped in a big way sense he became President, just from Trump's tough words..]]

--Illegal immigration hasn't dropped since he became President, especially not in the number-neighborhood that he is talking about (78%). He uses different timeframes to make a case that illegal immigration is down. He has looked at year-over-year March border apprehension data to say there’s been a 64% decline; compared February 2017 numbers to the election month, November 2016, to say it’s gone down 61%; and said there was a 40% decline from January, the month he was inaugurated, to February. Calculations of the latest figures available from U.S. Customs and Border Protection do not show a 78% decline in apprehensions. The closest number to that would be based on cherry-picked numbers of the highest number of apprehensions in November to the lowest number, in April.

[[Trump talked tough with Nato nations on their not paying their fair share towards military spending. They started payng more!]]

-- Yeah, but that isn't (and was never) a legally binding rule. He is correct that only five of the 28 members currently meet the GOAL, and they are the United States, Greece, Britain, Estonia and Poland. Trump is referring imprecisely to a goal NATO has set for each member to spend at least 2% of its gross domestic product on its own defense each year. The 2% standard is just a guideline, not a legally binding requirement.

[[Trump talked tough with idiots taking a knee during Anthem. Finally the NFL is starting to address it.]]

--He may have gotten involved with this issue, but what exactly happened due to his involvement? All the situation did was was divide people further. I will concede that the left is absolutely ridiculous in their claims that him calling Kapernick a "son of a bitch" was racist, however.

[[We need a President with the guts to tell it like it is, so that things might get done. He does not worry about what his words might do to his political career. He's not a career politician!]]

--No, we need a President with the guts to DO it like it should be DONE. Not "tell it like it is". What is just talking going to do? He SHOULD worry that his words won't get him elected again for a second term.

[[He talks off the cuff and does not worry what the Liberal fake news channels will say about him. He actually answers questions rather then being trained for decades in the art of saying what the people want to hear, and then doing the exact opposite.]]

--Okay, seriously? You have to be just kidding. I'll 100% admit that the left's sole tactic for debating/gathering voters/attempting to make "change" is solely based off of pandering to emotions and feelings, but that's exactly what Donald Trump did during the 2016 election. There's a reason that seven years ago (WHEN HE WAS A DEMOCRAT), that he said "I could run for President as a Republican, and they're all so stupid, I'd win." Because he knew that he could pander and tell the Right what they want to hear. He IS a good speaker, but a speaker isn't what the country needs. It's a DO-ER.

[[He's doing a good job, and if the establishment republicans stop acting like Democrats, and come together with Conservatives, this will be the greatest President for change in our lifetimes.]]

--To wrap up, nothing you said here was factual, and if you would like to fact check the statistics I used to debunk all of your claims, please feel free. You're correct. The downfall of the country is heavily on the part of the socialist culture that the Left is trying to create. BUT, it is also about the Conservatives who voted for Trump simply to vote AGAINST Hillary Criminal-ton (snicker), sticking to their voting choice and refusing to believe that NEITHER candidate was qualified.

Tag, you're it.

Side: Yes
FromWithin(5146) Disputed
1 point

To wrap it up, you are just one more hater of Trump who will always find things to insult him for and never admt how our naton is improving.

Have you noticed the economy and the stock market since his first day in office? Nah, your fake news channels never report on the good things happening.

Side: No
1 point

I agree with you. Just one thing though, I'm not a democrat.

Side: Yes
Rusticus(103) Disputed
4 points

@Fromwithin,

Yes I've noticed that when Trump gets involved things happen. Bad things happen.

Side: No
FromWithin(5146) Disputed
1 point

You notice what the fake news channels want you to notice.

How does it feel to be indoctrinated by Big Brother?

Side: Yes
mrcatsam(311) Disputed
3 points

Have you noticed that when trump gets involved, things happen?

Bad things, but yea, I have.

Side: No
FromWithin(5146) Disputed
0 points

Get a seat on late night comedy (in past tense) shows, you would fit right in with all your anti Trump hatred. They are no longer comedy shows but rather political propaganda shows.

Kind of like Big Brother in your bedrooms conditioning you how to think.

Side: Yes
Eloy(179) Disputed
2 points

Donald Trump got involved in Cuba and succeeded in bringing back the Cold War.

Side: No
Chinaman(307) Disputed
1 point

Donald Trump got involved in Cuba that was the extremist past government and i can't remember that guy's name.

Side: Yes
FromWithin(5146) Disputed
1 point

Thankfully YES HE DID! As with North Korea, we should not be supporting dictators with our business.

Side: Yes
realpetertdm(3) Disputed
1 point

The first year of the president's term uses guidelines made by the previous administration. Thus, right now, obama's policies are helping illegal immigration go down.

Also, I think saying true things is good, but saying lies and harassing people over twitter is not good behavior.

Side: No
FromWithin(5146) Disputed
0 points

I would agree if he is lieing and harrassing people who have not started it first.

Side: Yes
1 point

I made an argument for this side too! My opinion is kind of mixed. I think he's doing okay...

Side: Yes
1 point

While I certainly am okay with Donald Trump, I'm definitely not okay with Hillary Clinton. She could've destroyed the second amendment (the right to bear arms), and she only did because she said it would stop "mass killings." That's completely wrong because you can kill someone with a knife, a blender, arsenic, the list goes on...

Side: Yes
1 point

It depends on whether or not you listen to fake news. If you do, you are a brainwashed fool. Sucks to be you.

Side: Yes

If he was a Democrat they'd be glorifying his handling of events lately and showing him as some good old man who sometimes "says silly stuff that old men say but he means well", but he's not a Democrat. He's not in the tribe, so any good he does is meaningless to them and will not be reported.

Obama attacked nations unprovoked. Praised.

Obama turned Benghazi into a dumpster fire. Praised.

Obama ousted 2 foreign leaders and attempted 4. Praised.

Obama bragged about doing drugs. Praised.

Obama lifted $150 billion in sanctions that were working off of Iran. Praised.

If Trump did half that, you'd hear "impeachment" every single day, not that you don't allready, even when he's done none of that.

Side: Yes
Eloy(179) Disputed
3 points

Your argument is weak if you must defend Donald Trump by criticizing one of his predecessors.

Side: No
1 point

Or I feel no need to defend him, Obama was still a clown, and the left is full of hypocrites.

Side: Yes
Chinaman(307) Disputed
1 point

Obama is a joke being the great leader he was perceived to be the Democrat media would have him on board everyday.

Side: Yes
Cuaroc(8044) Disputed
1 point

If he was a Democrat they'd be glorifying his handling of events lately and showing him as some good old man who sometimes "says silly stuff that old men say but he means well", but he's not a Democrat. He's not in the tribe, so any good he does is meaningless to them and will not be reported.

The same exact thing could be said about Hillary/Obama if they were Republicans

If Trump did half that, you'd hear "impeachment" every single day, not that you don't allready, even when he's done none of that.

Meanwhile the Right would be praising Trump.

Side: No
1 point

the same exact thing could be said about Hillary/Obama if they were Republicans

CNN, ABC, MSNBC, CBS and NBC would praise Hillary if she was a Republican? You're living in Never Never Land. How's the weather there this time of year?

Side: Yes
1 point

Meanwhile the Right would be praising Trump.

Not really. Half of the right was mad as hell when there were no weapons of mass destruction. It's how Obama got elected.

Side: Yes
Chinaman(307) Disputed
1 point

Obama is the the failure of Hillary one day the Democrats could possibly wake up.

Side: Yes
0 points

Excellent job which further exposes the Totalitarian program the Democrats want.

Side: Yes
Rusticus(103) Disputed
2 points

@Chinaman,

When you have to invent false narratives to bolster your assertions, you're making it clear that your position is weak at best. Try sticking to reality - if you can.

Side: No
Chinaman(307) Disputed
1 point

Totalitarianism is not a false narrative of the Democrat Party your position is weak as your mind is. Sticking to reality for you is a known daily struggle.

Side: Yes
3 points

Depends what your idea of a good president is.

If you think that pigheadedly shouting demands to other world leaders is good foreign relations then hes a good president.

If you think going back on all of his promises to get OUT of war is good foreign policy then hes a good president.

If you think promising to cover everyone with healthcare, then endorsing a bill that does the opposite is good healthcare then hes a good president.

If you think spending twice as much time at the golf course as the previous president in 1/4th the time is a job well done than hes a good president.

If you think passing a bill with 16% approval which guts internet privacy is good policy then hes a good president.

If you think that appointing 5 goldman sachs alums, a former oil CEO, and several lobbyists is draining the swamp then hes a good president.

If you think cutting the EPA's minuscule budget has any effect on the overall federal budget then hes a good president.

If you're too dumb to realize the current economic increases are a continued result of obama's economic reform combined with market reactions and not from any actual economic legislation that Trump passed, then hes a good president.

If you think $970,000 annual tax cuts for the top 2% and $40 tax cuts for the bottom 50% is good tax policy then hes a good president.

For me, I agree with none of these things. So hes a shitty president.

Side: No
Chinaman(307) Disputed
1 point

Lay out what the tax plan is in a formal display and give up the talking points.

Excel spread sheet will work.

Side: Yes
3 points

the guy is an unreliable, unstable, self centered egotist that is more concerned about appearances that make him look good, than what is good for our country and the world. his withdrawal from the Paris climate accord, his N Korean policy, his conflict with his own staff (currently Tillerson), his position on Iran N Treaty, his lack of details on tax cuts, his lack of progress on infastructure, and his tax payer spending on his weekend retreats, so far more than Obama spent in his 8 years in office. He is the swamp.

Side: No
2 points

Well, he didn't practice child rape and behead 850 Jews, like the prophet, so he's better than the role model of the religion of special needs, so it would seem.

Side: Yes
1 point

He definitely is not the worst guy ever. Hitler was the worst guy ever. He killed millions of people, with most of them being innocent Jews who never did anything to him. Trump is just a guy who goes on Twitter and embarrasses his Secretary of State. Hitler is much worse.

Side: Yes
2 points

Compared to bad presidents (i.e. James Buchanan), he's doing better than most of them. However, compared to good presidents (i.e. Abraham Lincoln), he's not doing so well. If he improves, my opinion will probably change, but he just was not the best choice for the Republican candidate. I don't even know how he won the nomination...

Side: No
1 point

He won because the leftist media tries to destroy any Republican President and intimidate them out of making common sense decisions. So we gave them someone to play Daddy for them who'd tell them "no" and never flinch.

You can tell how good a President is by the left's reaction to him. If the left is pissed and violent, he's using common sense. If they aren't pissed, he's one of them or simply a pathetic RINO.

Side: Yes
AveSatanas(4172) Disputed
3 points

Passing a bill with 16% approval is "common sense"?

Using escalating rhetoric toward North Korea is "common sense"?

And does anyone with common sense believe mexico is going to pay for a border wall?

please

Side: No
0 points

You got that about 100% correct...............................................

Side: Yes
2 points

Donald Trump is a moron and not up to the job. He is the best argument for reform of the U.S. electoral system.

Side: No
1 point

Or Obamacare and the Iran Deal is. But whatever... *

Side: Yes
2 points

Hello:

No..........................................................................

excon

Side: No
2 points

Trump is an idiot and will probably die in prison after he's been tried and found guilty of treason.

Things are about to get very embarrassing for Trumplings.

Side: No
1 point

Trumplings?!! What are Trumplings?! Are those his supporters or his children?

Side: No
2 points

I am not an american, but as a teenager, who doesn't speak English as a primary language...

I see logical fallacy upon logical fallacy, threatening behavior, and psychological instability.

He's shown instances of ad hominem attacks on press and political opponents, strawman fallacy, and strong personal incredulity.

Over 16,000 mental health professionals signed a petition to have him removed from office based on being psychologically unfit to be president.

I don't see the democracy in having a president with a 36.1% approval rate either...

Side: No
Eloy(179) Clarified
1 point

Although he may have an approval rating of 36%, Donald Trump was elected to be president of the United States according to the American system. This is different from any possibility of legally removing him from office. According to the Constitution, there are no grounds for removing an American president because of madness.

Side: Yes
1 point

He couldn't play a dead president in an old west movie. He's way out of his depth trying to play President of These United States.

Side: No