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Dead, or Never Alive. Nietzsche Was an Idiot!
Debate Score:6
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Is God Dead?

Nietzsche famously laid out the statement, "God s Dead".  Was he right?  What did he even mean?

Black Sabbath confronted the concept - I find their take thought-provoking, so I'll leave the lyrics here:

God is Dead?

Lost in the darkness
I fade from the light
Faith of my father, my brother, my Maker and Savior
Help me make it through the night
Blood on my conscious (conscience?)
And murder in mind
Out of the gloom I rise up from my tomb into impending doom
Now my body is my shrine
The blood runs free
The rain turns red
Give me the wine
You keep the bread
The voices echo in my head
Is God alive or is God dead?
Is God dead?
It seems to have clipped the lyrics.  More,here:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS735US735&ei=BFwgWvvmM4SPjwSonIT4DA&q=god+is+dead+lyrics&oq=god+is+dead%3F+ly&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39k1j0i20i263k1j0l4j0i22i30k1l4.4408.9140.0.10232.3.3.0.0.0.0.113.273.2j1.3.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.3.272...0i67k1j0i20i264k1.0.6oBFLHJDAWs

Edit:  I've suggested a correction in the lyrics.  

Dead, or Never Alive.

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Nietzsche Was an Idiot!

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1 point

I think most regulars already know the basics of my take on it. I find the concept a bit ridiculous.

Side: Dead, or Never Alive.
NowASaint(1279) Clarified
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Who cares? If God does not care, why should anybody else?

Side: Dead, or Never Alive.
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Technically a God has to be immortal. If it wasn't, if instead it just was really powerful and lived a really long time but then kicked off, it would just be way better than we are - but not a God. It's like claiming humans are Gods when compared to mayflies. We know more and do more and live far longer than the flies, but we're still not Gods.

Alternative to the God is dead thread would be the God is away idea. That it has so much to manage it only gets to us once in a long while. And the flaw with that is if God is truly omnipotent and was capable of making every speck of every universe all throughout space then it would have no problem keeping up with us.

Ultimately, what we're left with is either a perfect omnipotent immortal being knows and does everything, or, there really never was such a being - at least not in the way our religions teach of it.

Side: Dead, or Never Alive.
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Zeus, Odin, RA, Neptune, Jehovah and hundreds of other "gods" are as alive today as they were then. I expect GOD and Allah will "live" just as they did ... for as long as someone believes they do. The names may change but the myths live on.

Side: Dead, or Never Alive.
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Nope, He's actually alive in the hearts of men and women. Many people to this day are carrying out the will of Jesus Christ and that is to preach the Gospel to every nation, tribe, and tongue.

Side: Nietzsche Was an Idiot!
EldonG(527) Clarified
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So then, what does it mean that he's alive? Does he actually take any action that man can see?

Side: Dead, or Never Alive.
NowASaint(1279) Clarified
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"God is alive" means He is, unlike you, not dying. One of the actions He takes which everybody can see is that He executes punishment against sin. Thus saith the LORD, "The soul that sinneth shall surely die".

Long after your time in this world is over, God remains as He has always been before you existed, God. Challenging Him is the game of fools.

Side: Dead, or Never Alive.
Atrag(5191) Clarified
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Nope, He's actually alive in the hearts of men and women.

Awww my granddad too. (He is factually dead though).

Side: Dead, or Never Alive.
Srom(12156) Clarified
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Who is factually dead your granddad, or God?

Side: Dead, or Never Alive.
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Well I know one guy who's dead for sure and his name is Nietzche

Side: Nietzsche Was an Idiot!
EldonG(527) Clarified
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Yes, I don't think anybody is denying that. What about God?

Side: Dead, or Never Alive.
cruzaders(106) Clarified
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Actually I dont really know, God being an eternal spirit he cant "die", but can a spirit be "alive"? Ifeel like its not the right word to use

Side: Dead, or Never Alive.