Is God a Tawhid, or Trinity?
Tawhid.
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Trinity.
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The God of the Holy Scriptures given to the Hebrew prophets who's prophecies are fully written and preserved such as Moses, Samuel, Ezra, David Ezekiel, Jeremiah Elijah, and may more prophets - to Micah this God is an eternal Spirit with creative power to manifest himself in many ways, also in various ways however, this is not the Trinity Christians who believe the truth from scripture that describes the identity and manifestation of Jesus Christ DO NOT - believe that Jesus is, - Co - Eternal Son - nor, Co - Equal Son nor is Jesus, Co - Omnipresent Son the major difference is that Trinitarian believers do NOT believe that Jesus Christ existed previously - as only a mere prophetic promise in the mind of God - But Trinitarians believe that Jesus always was evident and clearly existing in the Old Testament as - Co - Eternal Son ... / Co - Equal Son Biblical Christians who hold faith to the ORIGINAL MESSAGE PRESENTED IN THE MANUSCRIPTS - in their faith hold to the scripture evidence that Jesus Christ existed previously - as only a prophetic promise in the mind of God and that he came out of God and returns back to God, and a manifestation and form of God - that can appear physically visible and disappear into spiritual - and was not eternally existing as second person - externally eternally - outside of God as a second person as - Co - Eternal Son. nor as Co - Equal Son nor as Co - Omnipresent Son The Bible clearly declares that Jesus is Equal to God - and that he is Omnipresent and that Jesus is Eternal but not - " CO " plurally Eternal as a second eternal person - but rather a visible manifestation of God - God made flesh - born out of the spirit of the holy - the father whom is himself a Spirit God - invisible the Bible clarifies that in " diverse - different manners " God has manifested himself, in the past history - Old Testament, But these many, many previous manifestations of God throughout history these are not - the APPEARING OF GOD’S ONLY BORN SON, Heb 1:1 – 2 explains from the MANUSCRIPTS Heb 1:1 Many ways, also various ways, long ago the God spoke to their fathers :2 in their prophets unto these last of days, of these, he spoke to them in his son upon whom is given heir, of whom also this is forever made / done. unto these last of days, God has manifested himself IN his son whom is the one God manifesting his invisible spirit fully dwelling in his son. Side: Tawhid.
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Christians and Jews - worship a " SPIRIT " Muslims do not worship a spirit - Muslims have no idea whom or what they are worshiping. A God whom is an eternal Spirit is able to " spiritually " communicate and speak to the very Spirit and hearts and minds of men and women who will listen and obey, ................ how would the God of Muslims even be compared to the God of the Bible and the Prophets of God ? Christians and Jews have preserved Scriptures that God has swore and promised that he would preserve forever Muslims have absolutely nothing regarding any scripture that represents and reflect or account for anything regarding the God that Christians and Jews worship. if the Muslim God is 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 or one - what is it, what is Allah ? ? why worship something that - is not a spirit - and why worship something who's only and sole existence throughout all time has ONLY been represented as an historical pagan idol. - and not represented in any preserved scriptures nor as recorded data anywhere - outside of being just another idol / god of pagans worshipers. Side: Trinity.
I do not direct my words to any individual person on a personal level - but my reply is an overall reply to the Trinitarian Faith System abstractly is it exists. this refusal of the Trinitarian to answer or discuss or attempt to answer the question I had asked, nor honestly discuss the reality concerning the manuscripts - the topic and subject is not something that the Trinitarian can discuss in complete vindicated honestly and realistically with this, let's change the subject and step back and look at it from a historical perspective and understand why the Trinitarian is incapable. But I do not want in any way to direct my message to anyone personally but to review the facts as overall and see the Trinitarian Faith System abstractly is it exists. Heretics from the late 1300s to the 1600s who attempted to translate the bible were condemned as heretical and all of their translations were condemned and destroyed as false translations - they were even murdered and tortured to death and exiled. Yet, of all of these forbidden Translations that were destroyed and burned, condemned and outlawed / prohibited by law - all of these banned and prohibited translations are not in disagreement with the King James Version. William Whittingham, - in 1616 - just 5 years after the King James Bible was translated - King James declared the Geneva Bible translation to be - revolutionary and “seditious” treasonable. just 5 years after the King James Bible was translated - the King James of England is banning and outlawing Bibles that are not authorized and permitted by the government. William Tyndale - in 1408, the English Parliament passed the " Constitutions of Oxford, " forbidding translating or reading any part of the Bible in English…. Men and women were even burned for teaching their children the Apostles' Creed, the Lord's Prayer, and the Ten Commandments in English. Miles Coverdale - in 1542 Coverdale’s Bible was placed on a list of banned books. Miles Coverdale attempted to translate his Bible at Paris France until the French Trinitarian government stopped it, when Coverdale and his colleagues returned to England early in 1539 to complete it the Trinitarians of England drove them all and exiled them out of town and drove him away. John Wycliffe - in 1391, a bill was placed before English parliament to outlaw and imprison anyone possessing a copy. Yet Trinitarians today present all of these banned and outlawed Bibles as the word of God - Trinitarians today do not condemn these translations, they praise them as Godly Correct Translations - IN FACT - ALL OF THESE PREVIOUS ATTEMPTS TO TRANSLATE THE BIBLE INTO ENGLISH ARE NOT TRANSLATION IN DISAGREMENT WITH THE KING JAMES VERSION . - IN FACT - they are in perfect agreement with everything within the King James Translation. This mentality is exactly what Trinitarian - ism and Godhead - ian faith system and the Spirit of Trinity System represents and illustrates The Trinitarian SYSTEM show it's true spirit of deception, foolishness and willing complicit unawareness and ignoring of the truth. The majority / mainstream Trinitarian world system was not concerned with simply translating the Bible into a modern language but rather it was only concerned with control and power - to FORCE their Trinitarian Faith System to be enacted by “ LAW o be enacted by - instituted government power and authority under the death penalty and torture and persecution and by using the Bible as a weapon against anyone who attempted to translate the Bible outside of the Government authority. The majority / mainstream Trinitarian world system was dissatisfied and violently opposed to allow anyone to translate the Bible into a modern language for Trinitarians to read and understand. This is not what Trinitarians wanted nor were concerned with - they did not want to allow someone to come along and simply take the ancient manuscripts and translate the original message within the manuscripts. majority , mainstream Trinitarian world harshly - violently - brutally - sadistically - viciously and in bloody persecution , refusing to accept the Holy Bible translated without the power of military Government to mandate and direct a violent system to permit and allow translation of a Legal, Authorized, - { PERMIT BIBLE - BIBLE PERMIT } for the citizens, - by violent FORCE and LAW couched in control and power and manipulation. the Trinitarian world would accept no other. Today we see that - " Trinitarian - ism " has no manuscripts for their faith system - their entire faith system was developed by absolute manipulation - yet Trinitarians Protestants just as Trinitarian Catholics make hero’s and saints out of the very people that were persecuted and vilified and condemned by their very SYSTEM that produced the Trinitarian Bible Translation..... ! Protestants Trinitarians give elevations and promotions and honors to the saintly hero’s and martyrs who previously attempted to Translate the Bible - and their Translations are upheld as the word of God But would not accept their translations as their bloody and violent Trinitarian government system condemned and persecuted all of these previous Bible translators as hereticks and evil perverse wicked enemies of God, yet today Trinitarians consider them as valid translations. and lift up these people as hero's, saints, men of God and holy martyrs. ROMAN CATHOLICS HAVE DONE EXACTLY - exactly - the very same thing, their Catholic system kills, tortures, burns alive and persecutes and vilifies people who express their faith KILLING AND TORMENTING THEM - condemning them to hell then today, their Catholic Government system turns and changes these decisions and reverts the condemnation and vilification and beatifies and consecrates the very people they killed and damned - to redeem and glorify them as holy saints,. It just shows the mentality of the entire Trinitarian Faith System that refuses to accept the original message within the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts - just exactly as they had refused to allow the scriptures to be translated without the power of military Government to mandate and direct a violent system to permit and allow translation of a Legal, Authorized, - { PERMIT BIBLE - BIBLE PERMIT } for the citizens - by violent FORCE and LAW couched in control and power. It was never about truth - it was never about an honest accurate translation - it was never about the manuscripts,, - and it will never be,, - Trinitarians have absolutely no manuscripts for their faith. Trinitarians cannot have a open reality based conversation and discussion about the manuscripts - and I prove this daily - it is nothing but an empty hole filled with an eternal ignoring and distraction and diversion and attempts to completely avoid any conversation about the facts presented in the manuscripts of the Holy Scriptures. no questions I have asked are answered or even honestly addressed - the Trinitarian Faith leaves the believer with no other alternative - no discussion is made in honesty - but simply it is a system of eternal and continual attempt, to make the translators as prophets and revelators and spiritual fathers while denying and ignoring anything honest about the original manuscript message. the manuscripts have no authority all authority has been given to the System that manipulates Side: Trinity.
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