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He Is He is Not
Debate Score:59
Arguments:59
Total Votes:69
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 He Is (20)
 
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Is God actually the Bad Guy?

This the debate for those who want defend god or for those who don't.

He Is

Side Score: 30
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He is Not

Side Score: 29
4 points

He commands in his name the flood , plagues , droughts , famine , pestilence , abortion ,child sacrifice and demands his cowardly sheep praise him ... But hey he's a loving God

Sounds like a prize fucker to me .....

Side: He Is
NowASaint(1128) Disputed
2 points

God has also commanded an appointed time for you to bite the dust and you will wake up in Hell if you have not found God's mercy and secured His pardon before the wet pile of dust you disturb God's earth in returns to the dust it came from and you wake up in Hell. Tick tock, tick tock, counting down to zero and God knows when it will be..I'll see you when I am with the Lord in Heaven, my sins covered by His blood, and you are brought up from Hell to be judged by Him if you won't repent of your sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved and have eternal life.

Side: He is Not
1 point

He has appointed me to make sure that these irrationalities end soon.

So that, finally, idiocy no longer be an excuse to promote irrationality.

Side: He Is
outlaw60(8336) Disputed
1 point

What might you have to say about Mohammed and his writings ? Care to share ?

Side: He is Not
Dermot(2568) Disputed
3 points

I have no time for Mo a peadophile and most possibly insane ......

Side: He Is

He does that to punish. You make to many mistakes. Your fault. He is a loving god.

Side: He is Not
alto(115) Disputed
1 point

He made his children suffer to save you from evil. And now what are you doing? You are indulging in evil. As an atheist you don't know how much of a terrible impact your sin is having on your life. If you followed God you would become so joyful. Your sin is like chains bound on you, preventing you from being free. Do you really want that? To forever to be trapped in a pit of sorrows? Do you really enjoy your ignorance in saying that God demands child sacrifice and abortion? He condemns such evil things. I will give you an impossible challenge: find one thing that God has done that is not justified and that does not benefit you hugely. Because you have not done that yet.

Side: He is Not
Dermot(2568) Disputed
1 point

You talk about being free and yet you're in bondage to a fictitious tyrannical god that's commands you to constantly praise him by cowering on your knees like a low beast .

I cannot find one thing god has done , the same way I can't find one thing the pink unicorn has done , because that is nature of fictitious spiritual entities isn't it ... they do nothing

Side: He Is
1 point

The bloody God of the Old testament surely is a bad guy. Worse...a homicidal and quite daft wanker who would be locked up and executed today. Whereas I don't recall Lucifer ever killing even a small fraction of the folks the OT God did. And as I have written before we all know that the reason Satan was kicked out of Heaven and had to bugger off down here was cos he was sticking up for us with God. Trying to tell God not to be so sodding hard on us and to not be so jealous and petty and maniacal. The bible covered all this up of course so the church could retain the illusion of power, when at the end of the day it is clearly Luce who wields the power. Doubt me? Look around at the world today, mates! Plenty of evidence for Luce but not a tittle of evidence of God. LOL. Where is he? Nowhere. An absentee bloody landlord at best. A powerless and capricious and murderous wanker at worst. Cheers.

Side: He Is
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

The bloody bloke who is full of dirt and can't spit out anything clean is full of corruption, disease of soul and fit only for the fire of Hell. It's good to know God will one day separated bloody mouths in the fire of Hell where their blood will dry up and be on their own head and they won't be able to spit their filth at the living any more.

Side: He Is
jeffreyone(918) Disputed
1 point

"Satan was kicked out of Heaven and had to bugger off down here was cos he was sticking up for us with God. Trying to tell God not to be so sodding hard on us and to not be so jealous and petty and maniacal. The bible covered all this blah blah blah blah!''

Where did you derive this doctrine from?

Side: He is Not
1 point

Sure, God is a bad guy! First of all, I should argue that God does not exist but that's going off-topic. For argument's sake we shall say this entity or image of higher knowledge or energy exists (because sometimes us atheists have to show our kind hearts).

God is a bad guy for allowing mankind to create more religions. Whenever newer religions emerge, the human race has always separated to create distinct groups instead of reuniting as humanity. As we all see religion creates differences among us and sometimes those little differences have subtle ramifications. Take for example, Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims in India. All Sikhs in India are daily targeted for physical and mental assault, their friends and family tormented with threats, weapons and abuse and their beliefs and values played around with. Who is to blame for this? Religion. Certain Hindus and Muslims hold themselves responsible for representation of entire religion while individuality holds them accountable. If this "god" was a good guy, then he would not have asked Jesus, Mohamed, Moses, Guru Nanak and other founders of monotheist religion- as a monotheistic god is what everyone is supposedly arguing about - to start a new religion and preach about him to the world. It is totally bizarre how people believe such an entity even existed. This is man-made!

Side: He Is

First of all, I should argue that God does not exist but that's going off-topic. For argument's sake we shall say this entity or image of higher knowledge or energy exists

Here, you should be assuming the christian deity.

Also, they believe that all other founders are wrong.

Side: He Is
TablaGod(26) Disputed
1 point

"Also, they believe that all other founders are wrong."

If they don't believe in the other founders except for Jesus, then why do they believe in Moses's and his exodus. Also, why do they consider Muhammed as a prophet?

Side: He is Not
0 points

Remember the Genesis Flood? Yeah that was so not-evil, to kill 99.99% of the human race for the purpose of "cleansing the earth". Not that I believe in Him. If He exists, He's not getting my "acceptance".

Side: He Is
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

God was grieved that He made man when He saw that the imaginations of their hearts were only evil continually. God has the right to end your time, my time, everybody's time whenever He feels our time is over. God will execute you as a sinner, you have sinned against God and He has every right to leave you suffering in all kinds of torment including the fire of Hell. God died for you, paid your price in death on the cross and if you hate God you cannot expect Him to withhold His wrath from you after He died for you and you just sit there spitting in His face trampling His blood under your feet. Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

Side: He Is
NowASaint(1128) Clarified
1 point

The Flood was a judgement against the wickedness of mankind. The next time God will use fire on the Earth against all those who hate Him, against His enemies, against people who talk like you do against God. It's good to know God will punish evil and separate His enemies by leaving them in Hell dying forever where the living who are redeemed by the blood of the Lamb of God, Jesus, will not have to put up with the evil mouths and actions of sinners.

Side: He Is
3 points

I think God is good and evil..................................................................................

Side: He is Not
1 point

When the main character of a story is malignant, it's the fault of everyone else in the series. Try watching House of Cards and you'll understand.

Side: He is Not
Grenache(4216) Clarified
2 points

Then I apologize for creating you, FromWithin, and SaintNow. ...................................

Side: He Is
TablaGod(26) Disputed
1 point

House of Cards...Great show! but no relevance to topic at hand. Stop trying to change the subject.

Side: He Is
Lopilulu(287) Disputed
0 points

I do what I want when I want.

Side: He is Not
1 point

Human construct. Both good or bad at the imaginings of men. Religion carries moral values. (another human construct). At the same time religion is used to justify immorality. Hmmmm ain't that interesting. 😮

Side: He is Not
1 point

God is good all of the time. People with evil hearts like the foul mouth perverts here can only see God as being evil and they try to hide from God by putting up a brick wall in their mind, shutting down half of their brain and hiding in the other half trying to keep the wall up while their sin is making it crumble on top of them.

Side: He is Not
1 point

God is good all of the time. People with evil hearts like the foul mouth perverts here can only see God as being evil and they try to hide from God by putting up a brick wall in their mind, shutting down half of their brain and hiding in the other half trying to keep the wall up while their sin is making it crumble on top of them.

God has the right at any moment to end your time, and you have no right to keep your time. Don't be a loser. Fighting against your Creator is fighting against your own life, your own soul, and plunging you into the fire of Hell where there will be nothing indicating God is good....like a drop of water or a cool breeze...fight against God and you are a fool. Seek the Lord while He may be found, seek Him with your whole heart and you will find Him, you will know His forgiveness and love in that He died for you to save you from Hell and lives to justify all who receive Him in reality as their Savior.

Side: He is Not
1 point

He's not. People make Him out to be the bad guy, but, based off of what I've seen in arguments, people use arguments that actually go in favor of God instead of against Him. In a few arguments, I've seen people make Satan out to be the good guy in all of this when in actuality, he's the one that set all of the evil in motion

Side: He is Not
Lopilulu(287) Disputed
1 point

God is all-knowing, so he created Lucifer knowing what he'd inevitably become.

God is all-powerful on top of all-knowing so he knowingly chooses to allow Satan to do things that he already knew he'd do despite possessing the power to stop him at any given time.

Side: He Is
luckin(144) Clarified
1 point

That's all true and I'm inclined to agree with it. However, you're assuming that because God has not stopped Lucifer completely, then therefore He is the bad guy. You're leaving out the fact that God being all-knowing has a morally sufficient reason for allowing everything to happen. You're also leaving out the fact that God is too loving to take away satan's freedom of choice even though satan abused it and fell away and caused the destruction he did

Side: He Is
1 point

I agree he always sets all the evil in motion. Because of him there is always a constant fight for land, a constant fight over something so obliterate as to not wearing a cross necklace as jewelry and a constant need for people to spend money on worshiping this non-existing entity.

Side: He Is
1 point

God is not the bad guy, humans are. Influenced by their cultures and the way they were raised, whether is was bad or good it doesn't matter each person accepts these life experiences differently. Each person has their own imagination of who god is no matter what religious back round their from. Throughout history we see these global body powers whether it was the church waging wars in the name of god, or nations doing it in the name of their god or for power and greed. Materialistic things of this world are our own demise, not everyone is this way. It might say in the bible to commit such horrendous acts of inhuman treatment to others based on certain actions. We are all capable of weighing the good from the bad, and we each have interpretations of what that looks like. Yes farther back in our barbaric past we committed these acts because the holy book from whatever religion that book is from said to do so. But humanity during those lost times needed an escape from reality, so living for the holy book was the answer. As we grown as a species we learned that earth won't accept these horrible acts of inhumanity, so huge puppet governments were starting to be created to tell us what we can and cannot do. But these governments still rage wars in the name of god of past religious clashes. We are all intellectually capable of pointing fingers at certain things we do or do not believe in and blame them for things that have happened. But we need to realize people have the power and need to start realizing the actual problem is us, not god. Human Preservation!

Side: He is Not
1 point

if God is a bad guy, then all people are bad. there will be no chance for people to be good...but if God is good then people are originally good. some people turns to evil because they recognize God as evil.

Side: He is Not

NO WAY! That does not make sense. He does not make bad decisions. You do.

Side: He is Not
1 point

How dare anyone say that God is evil. He has done so much for you and now you're saying he's evil! The evil ones are the ones misguided by satan into not following his word. In the end they shall all receive their just punishment.

Side: He is Not