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I am not Christian. I'm gonna go to Hell. At least according to this so-called "God". I have studied the Christian faith and this all-loving father sent his son to save us from suffering. If he were all-loving, he would not send someone who doesn't believe in him to eternal punishment and burning in the fires of Hell. I don't care much.
That's because God is not a person, or a thing. It is a force we can not grasp. The accepted version of God is most definitely cruel, just like almost every living being on Earth.
The God that us Hindus believe in is the energy of the Universe itself. It has unknown qualities, can't be created or destroyed, but can be harnessed and is in (almost) everything in the universe. It is the most basic unit of things that exist in the universe. It is both infinitely small and large. We can align our brain with it to be calm and successful by meditating, and doing our duty to the best of our ability without thinking about results.
God doesn't decided our destiny, we do. We are part of God; God is part of us.
If you understood a word I said, congrats your one of the few.
The stuff you said is very simple. What's hard to understand about it? You think you have the right to exist as a sinner outside of Hell and are free of punishment in death. That's all your religion is....delusional. It's a delusion you want, so you get it from lying spirits.
God is indeed a person. The "force" you are worshipping is the force of your own rebellion against God, trying to make yourself equal to God.
I was pretty deep into Americanized Hinduism for a few years, and those beliefs and experiences carried with me for many years. Lots of stuff happened, or didn't happen, during "meditations" emptying my mind......the problem when you empty your mind is that it becomes wide open for lying spirits and you start to believe in the experiences are reality, believing the experiences imply things they cannot guarantee. The whole thing is to make you believe you will not be judged by the Living God as a sinner who deserves no life but deserves eternal death in Hell. You need His pardon from your sins or your sins will take you to the fire of Hell. Hinduism is a very strong delusion, and it's much more similar to atheism than atheist or Hindus like to admit.
the problem when you empty your mind is that it becomes wide open for lying spirits and you start to believe in the experiences are reality, believing the experiences imply things they cannot guarantee. The whole thing is to make you believe you will not be judged by the Living God as a sinner who deserves no life but deserves eternal death in Hell.
Do you believe everything you do has consequences and based on your consequences something will happen? Then, whether you like it or not, you are a Hindu. All people who attempt to elevate themselves and/or the people around them, they are Hindus. You may say that God will judge you, and decides what will happen to your soul. I do not know. I am not smart enough to find out. However, I do not want to listen to other people because I don't know if by believing them I will have blind faith. You agree with that too. How can I know who is a good person and who is a devil?
Listen, I don't care what you say. I don't know you really. If your actions are pure and good-intentioned, you will go to Heaven, achieve Moksha, Nirvana, get to the afterlife, whatever you believe in. But it starts with being a good person. Muslims will go to heaven, ISIS will not. Christians will go to heaven, the KKK will not.
Unless you want clarification or you want to tell me more about what you believe in, I will not respond to you. I don't care if you call me a sinner or say I will go to Hell. I would rather go to Hell than be a bad person.
only God is good, you and I, and everybody else, is bad, we have gone bad and can't change what we are. The proof is that we are dying. God is good and He is living. We are bad and we are dying.
Hinduism teaches you can be good. You cannot be good when you have already gone bad. It's like spoiled milk......that's what we are. No matter how much good milk is there, a little bit of spoiling makes it all bad. You will spit it out, and that's how we are with God...we have gone bad and if you try to approach God the way you are, trying to tell Him you are good, He is going to puke you out of His mouth because you have gone bad and the pollution rots your soul as it destroys your body.
Hinduism is a deception, making you think you can be good so that you have the right to exist outside of Hell. You do not have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner, a spoiled glass of milk, any more than you have the right to live as you are, in a body that is falling apart and unworthy of living. We are good for dying, and dying is not good.
The fact that our actions have consequences does not make everybody a Hindu.
You are a Hindu, apparently, because Hinduism makes you feel like you are good. You are no better than the worse sinner in the world who is dying, we are all the same, sinners who deserve to die and are unworthy to stand with the Living God.
I'm talking simple common sense logic. Hinduism is irrational and self-deluding.....and you might feel like you are being "enlightened" but you are dying and no amount of "doing good" can change you from what you are, it can't cleanse your record.
Hinduism is very much like atheism, and many atheists will say they believe their may be an impersonal force but not a personal God who loves you personally.
Hinduism and Atheism both promise their followers that they have the right to exist as sinners outside of Hell.
Both lack a Savior, and both believe they save themselves
I'm not Hindu, I'm Buddhist. But they're the same thing. There is a punishment. It is called karma. Look it up, you idiot. You do extreme evil you will get punished. But it isn't permanent. If you do good, you are rewarded. In fact, rebirth is less cruel than your stupid Christian concepts of Heaven and Hell. People actually have chances.
How many times do I have to tell you? I haven't done much wrong. Sure I've screwed up here and there (like everyone) but who are you to judge? Because, I do not believe in something that can be physically or scientifically proven, I will be punished?
God is the judge, not me. We have all done wrong and are unfit for life, that is why we are dying. The Living God wants us to have eternal life and be saved from dying. He has made the way for you to be saved from eternal dying in Hell.
It can be scientifically proven that you are unfit for living. You are dying, isn't that scientific proof that you are unfit for living? A person who is dying needs to be saved. I am saved. You can be saved. God is the Savior calling you to trust in Him, believe He died for you and is risen from the dead, that he paid for your "screwed up here and there (like everyone), paid for your wrongs with His own blood so you can be covered, forgiven, and not have to appear before God naked with nothing to hide your wrongs. Talk to God about it, be honest about your wrongs with Him and your need of His mercy, believe on Jesus who died in your place, paid your price, and is risen from the dead, tell God you are accepting Him, the LORD of Lords, KING of Kings, ruler of heaven and Earth as your Savior, receive Him by faith.
It cannot be scientifically proven that you will not burn in Hell forever if you remain opposed to God being the only hope of being saved from sin, death, and Hell. You are believing in things you can only discover by experience and not by science. To say you know the future beyond death, by science, is self-deception. You do not know, or you would know God has the right to leave you burning in Hell forever and you would seek His mercy to be saved from dying forever there as you are dying forever here now in your "screwed up here and there (like everyone)" unfitness for life.
The stuff you said is very simple. What's hard to understand about it?
It probably took you a long time to understand it.
You think you have the right to exist as a sinner outside of Hell and are free of punishment in death.
Well, not believing isn't a sin in any other religions.
That's all your religion is....delusional.
Who says it wasn't. But who says yours isn't either
It's a delusion you want, so you get it from lying spirits.
Hindus and Buddhists aren't REQUIRED to believe in the gods and goddesses. Good deeds are what we are REQUIRED to do.
God is indeed a person.
Okay, even your fellow Christians don't believe that God is a person. He is the "supreme being". A person will eventually die and they make mistakes too. So are you saying that God will eventually die and also makes mistakes?
The "force" you are worshipping is the force of your own rebellion against God, trying to make yourself equal to God.
I am not equal to him. I am above him. I exist, he doesn't. Something in existence is definitely above something that doesn't exist.
I was pretty deep into Americanized Hinduism for a few years, and those beliefs and experiences carried with me for many years.
No offense, I am an all-American American but anything Americanized that came from other countries (especially Asia) is not going to be right.
Lots of stuff happened, or didn't happen, during "meditations" emptying my mind......the problem when you empty your mind is that it becomes wide open for lying spirits and you start to believe in the experiences are reality, believing the experiences imply things they cannot guarantee.
With that, you just admitted that Hindu spirits are real. However, emptying your mind doesn't allow spirits to enter it. Unless, you're like one of those cults people.
The whole thing is to make you believe you will not be judged by the Living God as a sinner who deserves no life but deserves eternal death in Hell.
That made absolutely no sense at all, just like your religion.
You need His pardon from your sins or your sins will take you to the fire of Hell.
I'm not talking about sinning. I'm fine with punishment for something you did wrong (even if it is over the line a bit by being eternal) but not believing and getting punished? That's crazy.
Hinduism is a very strong delusion
Takes one to know one.
and it's much more similar to atheism than atheist or Hindus like to admit.
How? And is that something to be ashamed of. Atheists believe what they believe. Who are you to judge?
You do humor me a bit, and since it seems you are well able to keep the language clean and intelligent, I'll respond in detail here.
Not believing in religions is not sin because in religions you only have to try to be good or do whatever to earn a pass to be exempt from burning in Hell. I do not practice a religion, I live in reality. If you don't believe in reality, you are sinning and it's to your own hurt and will negatively affect others and God hates it.
I said your religion is delusional, and your response is "who says it wasn't"? God said He would send strong delusion to those who reject the truth. You can have it, I prefer the truth. The truth is the truth, and if you can't tell the difference between what is true and what is delusional, you might want to try pouring some hot coffee over your head...that might wake you up to reality a bit.
The "good deeds" you say you are required to do can never cleanse your history, they can't make you innocent. You remain guilty no matter how much good you or others say you have done. We are all guilty and all deserve to die, life is not only fair...we are the objects of God's mercy as long as we are not burning in Hell.
My brothers and sisters in Christ are born of the Spirit of God and know Him as our Heavenly Father who speaks to us by His holy word (the Bible), leads us by His Spirit to be like His Son, and we do good things because God is good and we not only desire to be like Him, we know we will be like Him in His glory, we will be like Jesus in His resurrected body with bodies like His, and we will know clearly as we are known.
"A supreme being" is a concept understating God, used as a basic reasoning tool to try to get people like you to see the truth. God loves you, and has an account of everything you have ever said, done, felt, imagined, and every place you have gone. God knows you better than you know yourself, and it is Him to whom you will answer and stand before in judgment and you personally will answer to Him personally.
You are trying to reduce God to something no more than yourself when you imply He can make mistakes and die. He made you, you are no mistake, and God wants you to be saved from dying to have eternal life to enjoy His Heaven so He can enjoy you forever.
You wish you were above God because that would mean you are free of punishment in death. Your fooling yourself and running out of time. You might wake up in Hell tomorrow, you need to stop arguing against God and believe He is the One who died for you, took your place in death, so you can be forgiven in His resurrection and He can be your life and you will have eternal life.
Hinduism is a very flexible belief system, that's why Budism (I can never spell that word, it makes me dyslexic) became such a popular modification on Hinduism. There are many forms of Americanized Hinduism. I do not keep up on the latest, but one I did see was "Zeroism". It's all existentialism, Hinduism and Bhudism simply use variations of characters and teachings but at base are the same...."because I exist, I have the right to exist free of punishment, it's not my fault that I exist therefore I cannot be in punishment". Atheism is also existential.
I won't go into a lot of detail with non-Christians about the depth and practice in my Hinduism days, but I was in what would be considered the initial phases of being a master or teacher. Of course the spirits you will encounter if you get deep into religious practices are real....and they often appear to be good, warm, beautiful, "enlightening". They are liars. They are operating in rebellion against God and know their end and want only to keep you in deception so they can gloat in their agony over you getting their justice. You are opening up doors allowing deceiving spirits to approach and lead you.....they know what they are doing, you are being deceived. You are inviting devils for a dance when you empty your mind seeking "enlightenment", a higher plane, oneness, or whatever terminology you prefer in your existential expression of religion.
You don't have an excuse for not believing in God, for not believing He loves you and not believing He died in your place, paid your price, and you can know His mercy and pardon by receiving Him as your Savior. You are fighting against God, trying to say you are justified by yourself, in yourself, so you cannot be held in Hell's fire. Your going to lose that argument. If you seek God's mercy before He forces you to concede to His right to rule over and against you as a sinner, you will find it in the resurrected Savior, Jesus Christ.
Yes I was deluded, so I know what it is to be a deluded person. Now I know the truth, and it makes me free. Who am I to judge? What, you expect me to accept delusions and say there is no standard of truth? 2 plus 2 is four, and I judge the equation to be right. If you can't (better, won't) judge what is right and wrong, be sure that God will do it for you and against you if you don't like it.
You are contradicting your argument. You say you do not believe in a religion, but you talk about God. All religions are delusional and can never be proved. It's what you believe in.
Try to understand factual reality. You are dying in reality while you feel like you are living. God is the Living God. You are the dying you. Dying people need to be saved, and only the Living God can give life to the dying.
Believing you have the right to live is delusional; believing you have the right to exist outside of Hell is foolish. The only reason reality cannot be proved to you is that you reject it and will not accept proof; then the only proof you will get is to find yourself unable to escape the fire of Hell. You really want proof, you will get it. If you want mercy, you need to find it before your dying is finalized and it's too late.
You cannot escape reality by saying it's delusional to believe you can be saved from dying; saved from Hell. God loves you and wants you to be saved, but He can't save you if you insist your sins do not need His forgiveness. God can't save you if you insist you do not need His mercy. God cannot save you if you will not believe He paid your price on the cross so that in His resurrection you can be forgiven.
The only contradiction in my statements is you contradicting your own life by saying you need not be saved. The OP here is "Is God cruel", and you will only find Him to be cruel if you will not believe He loves you and offers you forgiveness, pardon. I wish I could make you see, but you have to see for yourself that God loves you, is the Living God, and offers you pardon through the blood of His Son and eternal life by receiving Him as your Savior. He will make you a new creation fit for Heaven if you will trust Him. If you will not believe, will not trust Him, you will remain dying and fit for nothing but the fire of Hell. I'm sorry I can't tell you that you are good enough to exist outside of Hell....time is running out, you need to figure out reality for yourself and I can't force it down your throat or I would for your own sake...even God Himself can't force it down your throat. You would just spit it back in His face if you will not concede to His right to execute you.
If God shows himself, I will believe. But until then, no. I will not believe in God until there is proof that he exists. How do you expect someone to believe in something that happened 2000 years ago? People who do, like you, are fools.
He has shown Himself, and is still showing you. You have your hand up in God's face saying "no, stop", and you can't see past the back of your own hand. God loves you and you are doing all you can to block Him out and make Him leave you alone and the only place you can really know God's total withdrawal of His love and goodness is to be in the fire of Hell with no way out, and that is not what God wants for you. You are doing it to yourself.
Really? He has? That is a surprise. Maybe you have, but I have never had anyone come down from the sky and tell me that he is God. Sure, throughout history there might have been someone (cough Jesus cough) but they have never been able that they were true.
The fact that you will not believe only proves that you will not believe. That is your own choice, to believe you are justified to be free of Hell. God gives you that choice, and if you won't believe His Son paid for your sins so God's wrath could be removed from you and you can have eternal life, that is your choice. You don't have to believe, you have firmly rejected the only hope of eternal life and if you wake up in Hell it's because of your own choice. Blaming God won't get you out. He has told you, you have heard, and you are rejecting the truth. In reality you can only blame yourself for dying and going to Hell, but I guess you think that by arguing with God you can get yourself out of it. Keep on trying if that's the way you want to go out. Maybe you will realize it's hopeless without repenting and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ.
Denying the truth cannot change the truth. We all deserve to die as sinners, and we all deserve to be in hell's fire forever. God himself paid our price so we can be forgiven and have eternal life in heaven . if you think you don't need to be saved, ok then.....but you certainly have heard God's offer for you to be forgiven. What you are actually doing is demanding. God prove He can hold you in Hell forever and He will if you keep insisting He can't. I guess you dint care because you seem to think you have the right to exist outside of Hell. God loves you, and arguing against HIm. Is arguing against your own life...all you can get from the way you are going is dying forever in. Hell fire. God gives you time outside of Hell,and i hope you have enough time to repent of all your sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved from Hell.
Check out my new debate where I am arguing that I really do deserve to die and burn in Hell forever. Many have simply agreed by saying "yep", but I think there have been some pretty good discussions.......maybe you can add to it.
Sin's consequences are punishing. Sin has to be punished or God is not good.
Sin separates the sinner from God. It is punishing. That's why people think God is cruel, because they did not choose to come into existence and they are sinners experiencing the punishing effects of sin.
If I were God and I wanted to punish sinners, I would not give them eternal pain and punishment. When a kid does something wrong, he gets grounded for a length of time. His parents don't say, "Hey, Little Jimmy. Stay in your room forever." for doing something wrong. However, God is doing the latter. He punishes people for eternity with no chance at revival.
You are not God. If you were God, you would not be a sinner. You are not a child of God, you are a child of sinners and not in God's family. You are an outsider, and God will not deal with you as one of His children until you are legally adopted by Him. That adoption is offered to you and you are invited to accept based on the fact that He paid the price for you by His death, giving His life's blood for your sins so you can be forgiven in His resurrection. If you will receive Him, Jesus, as your Savior, then your sins will be covered by His blood and you will be born again by His Holy Spirit, Jesus will be in you a new life making you fit for the Kingdom of Heaven, a child of God. Then God will deal with you as your Father, chastising you to correct you lovingly and blessing you when your ways are pleasing to Him. For now, you are His enemy, trampling the blood of His Son under your feet as you insist you have the right to exist outside of Hell and God's wrath is on you and building as He patiently calls for you to repent and turn to Him for life to be saved from Hell.
Why do people talk like parrots saying stupid things as if they can keep themselves out of Hell by insisting God does not have the right to punish them?
You are really amusing me with your arguments. Christians are the ones who talk like parrots and pray incantations. You guys walk all say the same bull about God and loving god.
atheists use around ten clichés, each of which supposedly logically negates God from being God. They are generally single sentence cliché's, and logical answers are not accepted. I answer all atheist cliché's in many different ways with unlimited numbers of illustrating examples. The examples atheist use to illustrate their short list of clichés is another short list of clichés. Your implication that the things I'm saying in support of the love of God a parrot talk only shows that you are not listening. I can easily list all of the things atheist say against God and all of their supporting arguments......and I doubt that the total is more the 20 to cover every thing. I can give hundreds of illustrations for the love of God, and hundreds of different lines of reasoning, and always am learning new ways of saying it. Atheism is just tire old warn out junk which is promoted as something now only when the speaker's mouth is bigger than the previous speaker. The only new stuff they add is more and more vulgar profanities and insults.
I am not offended by what you say. Everyone has their beliefs and perceptions which I alone can not change. God is not cruel he puts us through pain and suffering for a reason. He may sound cruel at first and will be cruel to you but he does it to get your attention. He does it to make you stronger and better than before. God is the one and only one that can put you through pain and say he loves you. If anyone else does they are pulling your leg. God is the resurrection and the savior for all things.
Okay, when I learned about the Christian religion I did learn that God puts us through pain and suffering. I accept that. However, if you don't believe in him, he sends you to eternal punishment. That's a bit ridiculous.
Sin's consequences are punishing. Sin has to be punished or God is not good.
Sin separates the sinner from God. It is punishing. That's why people think God is cruel, because they did not choose to come into existence and they are sinners experiencing the punishing effects of sin.
If I were God and I wanted to punish sinners, I would not give them eternal pain and punishment. When a kid does something wrong, he gets grounded for a length of time. His parents don't say, "Hey, Little Jimmy. Stay in your room forever." for doing something wrong. However, God is doing the latter. He punishes people for eternity with no chance at revival.
You have to be a child of God before He will chasten you as one of His children. Until you are born of His Spirit (by receiving His Son, Jesus, as your Savior when you come into agreement with God admitting your need of His mercy and believing on the Lord Jesus Christ who took your place in death to pay for your sins and rose to be the justifier of all who believe on Him) you are only a sinner like the devil, and you are of your father the devil, a child of Hell bound for eternal damnation. God is giving you time to repent and believe on His Son to be saved from Hell, which is what He wants for you, to give you eternal life and treat you like a child of His without condemnation. As long as you stand in what you think is your own right to exist outside of Hell, you are condemned in death and doomed for Hell as a sinner like the devil.
God hates evil, and has the right to punish evil because it messed up His perfect creation by it's own choice. He will eventually remove and separate all evil from His goodness in creation by confining it in the consuming fire of Hell where it belongs. He will do this because He is good, a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him and the righteous Judge executing vengeance on His enemies.
You do indeed have a chance of revival now, and if you end up burning in Hell unable to get out you cannot say God gave you no chance of revival. You can be restored now to eternal life through the blood of His Son who gave Himself for you to buy you back from the curse of death you have earned as a sinner. You are making a mistake by trying to paint God as being cruel. It's your cruel and cold heart against God which His Son paid for with His own blood because He loves you so much that He died for you even when you were His enemy, among the scoffers who said as He hung on the cross "if he be the Son of God, let him come down from the cross. He saved others, he cannot save Himself." He could have called ten thousand angels to His aid, but he stayed on that cross to pay the price on your account so you can be forgiven in His resurrection. This is the gospel, the good news for all mankind from God, that we can be forgiven and have eternal life in heaven. Jesus is knocking on your heart's door, looking for you, desiring you to be with Him forever in Heaven. You have to believe He is there and open the door and receive Him...only your sin holds the door shut, by your own choice, and if you won't believe and receive Him as your Savior you will face Him as your Judge. The blood He shed to be the covering of your sins will be the blood you have trampled and you will pay for your own sins in Hell with nothing to cover your sins.
It's Justice. What good would God be if He didn't execute Justice? He proved His right by dying for you to save you from eternal damnation. He has the right to keep you in Hell forever as a sinner and He will if you won't accept what He did to save you from it and you can say He never gave you a chance, but you will be lying.
Prisoners aren't burned in fire pits and hung by their tongue over abysses. Prisoners serve out their life sentence until they are either released or either when they are executed. They are not tortured.
God is cruel to those who see Him as cruel. That's all He can be toward them when they insist He is not good. They end up burning in Hell and forever, to them, God is unkind and cruel. They fail to see God is lovingly giving them what they wanted, and existence where they can believe there is nothing to prove God is good.
Give me one example how God is loving to people. Ever since the beginning of time, God has been killing and destroying. Take a look at Noah's Ark, Story of Sodom and Gomorrah, The Story of Lot, to name a few. Those are stories where God destroyed "his own people", the Israelites. We're not even counting foreigners such as the Babylonians, Romans, and others. Here is a fact, the Devil killed less people than God in the Bible.
Give me one example how God is loving to people. Ever since the beginning of time, God has been killing and destroying. Take a look at Noah's Ark, Story of Sodom and Gomorrah, The Story of Lot, to name a few. Those are stories where God destroyed "his own people", the Israelites. We're not even counting foreigners such as the Babylonians, Romans, and others. Here is a fact, the Devil killed fewer people than God in the Bible. Tell me how you can say that it isn't cruel.
God is giving you time dying while you hate Him. That proves He loves you. He is giving you air to breathe.
Why are you telling me to read Bible stories? It's obvious you do not read them. I'll try to help you since you seem completely ignorant of the Bible and trained like a parrot to say things you do not understand.
In Noah's day, the whole Earth was filled with violence, and the imaginations of their hearts were only evil continually....and that's what the world is becoming today. "As in the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of Man" (Jesus, talking about His return in the end times which we live in).
Sodom and Gomorrah were full of extreme wickedness, so that anybody who visited those cities could be hauled out into the street and gang raped with no fear of any law. "The story of Lot..."? Lot was Abraham's brother, who had made the mistake of choosing to live in/near Sodom to do business with them. Lot was a righteous man, and it vexed his righteous soul to be engaged with the Sodomites for business as he was. Why don't you read the Bible and try to understand things instead of talking like a parrot with a bird brain? Not trying to insult you, just saying......the people who are making you think you are smart are not your friends, they are teaching you to be ignorant and speak insultingly toward people like me as if that somehow makes you powerful and it's worth it for you to talk like a fool and act like a jerk. The way you are talking is insulting and jerky. I know you are a better person than that, you're just looking up to the wrong people as your examples.
The love of God is proven in that He gave His only Son to die in your place, to pay your price, so you can be forgiven in His resurrection and have eternal life if you will repent of your rebellion and rebellious ways against God and believe on Jesus and receive Him as your Savior. Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. You can talk directly to God on His terms and He will hear you and save you from Hell.
All death came through sin, Satan is the instigator and promoter of all sin, and you are following him blindly thinking you can prove you are good enough so you are justified to live outside of Hell. The devil, Satan, knows he has lost the argument against God and is using your evil minded friends to encourage you in hatred against God only so he can gloat over the destruction of you who God loves and died for. The devil does not have to kill anybody, he taught them to be sinners so they die for their sin. You need to think for yourself and stop talking like a devil trying to dethrone God.
here's one of the typical atheistic clichés "give me one example of how God is loving to people", then the typical cliché supporting argument of "He's killing everybody so it proves He is cruel"
It's stupid stuff. God makes the sun to shine, and the rain to fall on the just and the unjust alike, God is good to all because He is good.
Nobody deserves to live, God gives us time we do not deserve because He is good. I can give hundreds of supporting illustrations for these points, and the fact that God gave His Son to die in our place to pay our price so we do not have to pay in Hell proves the love of God is far greater than any love we a humans have as God loves even His enemies (like you) and gave His Son to take your punishment.....
But atheists will ignore logic and reason in preference of believing they came from nothing and are going to nothing and have no real value so nothing really matters.
Atheists have decided they are better, stronger, smarter than God so they cease learning and will not listen to reason. For good reason the Bible says "The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God".
One of my atheistic professors used to say the weirdest stuff he believed in atheism, and say it with a goofy pleasant smile acting like he has such a beautiful way of looking at things......
It went like this: We are products of chemical reactions, and everything we do, say, or think is the result of chemical reactions in our brain or body, and we really have no choice in it (another of the short list of atheistic clichés).
Then he would go on with "in dying, we live forever because our molecules are broken down and recycled by other living organisms so we are part of the life cycle and life forever in it, and everything is beautiful even in suffering and dying"
At least the second part is not the typical common atheistic clichés, but it is a mix of naturalism and Hinduism with recycling of nature instead of reincarnation, but both convey the same meaning........believing there is no punishment in death and death is nothing but a friend who ushers us into a different reality.
It's all goofy nonsense. Suffering and death is not beautiful, and you are not living in your chemical compounds. My ancestors who died are not living in the birds or in my dog who ate bits and pieces of their decaying corpses.
Atheism is not only non-sense, it's weird and somehow a hardened atheist has convinced themselves that they know all the answers when in reality they cannot prove dying is not forever in Hell..........
And instead of listening and discussing points which show the flaws in their reasoning, they resort to profanity and insults against anybody who believes in God.......that's all atheism is, and insult against God and God is less impressed by it than it impresses me.
The bible is all about a God who created man to interact with him. Now, the devil has seduced the human race so that they will practice sin, something opposite to God's nature. SO, God does not send anyone to hell. It's simply that sin cannot enter in heaven because heaven is a holy place.Jesus is the only solution to enter heaven because he took our sin on him. The only condition is to believe that it is true, because if you do not believe it, at the door of heaven you will still have all your sins with you, and the only place for you will be hell. So, hell is not a punishment for humans, it's a punishment for the devil, who deceived the human race so that they will join him. Please take a look at this article to understand why God exists
you no what fuck you how and the hell do you think you came from a dame animal i dont know why you think he doesn't exist ill be praying for you god bless you man.
Listen, potty mouth, do you really expect anybody to read your post when you start off with nothing but the most highly offensive phrase you can hurl? Some people would knock your teeth out before you spit out three more words past your filthy abusive speech, and some like me would be kind enough to tell you to try to control yourself before you lose some teeth. I hope you have all of your teeth and keep them, and I hope your mommy doesn't run out of soap from repeatedly washing your mouth.
Life is a gift from God to be thankful for. It is not cruel, it is better than we deserve...as long as we are not burning in Hell, it's better than we deserve and our thanksgiving to God is always appropriate.
why do you ask questions you will not accept answers for......and of course you will say there is no answer which only proves you are being willfully ignorant.