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Debate Score:65
Arguments:59
Total Votes:75
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Is God cruel?

Your choice. I know that a lot of Christians are gonna be like "I am offended" or something, but I don't give a damn. 

Yes

Side Score: 30
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No

Side Score: 35
2 points

I am not Christian. I'm gonna go to Hell. At least according to this so-called "God". I have studied the Christian faith and this all-loving father sent his son to save us from suffering. If he were all-loving, he would not send someone who doesn't believe in him to eternal punishment and burning in the fires of Hell. I don't care much.

Side: Yes
1 point

That's because God is not a person, or a thing. It is a force we can not grasp. The accepted version of God is most definitely cruel, just like almost every living being on Earth.

The God that us Hindus believe in is the energy of the Universe itself. It has unknown qualities, can't be created or destroyed, but can be harnessed and is in (almost) everything in the universe. It is the most basic unit of things that exist in the universe. It is both infinitely small and large. We can align our brain with it to be calm and successful by meditating, and doing our duty to the best of our ability without thinking about results.

God doesn't decided our destiny, we do. We are part of God; God is part of us.

If you understood a word I said, congrats your one of the few.

Side: Yes
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

The stuff you said is very simple. What's hard to understand about it? You think you have the right to exist as a sinner outside of Hell and are free of punishment in death. That's all your religion is....delusional. It's a delusion you want, so you get it from lying spirits.

God is indeed a person. The "force" you are worshipping is the force of your own rebellion against God, trying to make yourself equal to God.

I was pretty deep into Americanized Hinduism for a few years, and those beliefs and experiences carried with me for many years. Lots of stuff happened, or didn't happen, during "meditations" emptying my mind......the problem when you empty your mind is that it becomes wide open for lying spirits and you start to believe in the experiences are reality, believing the experiences imply things they cannot guarantee. The whole thing is to make you believe you will not be judged by the Living God as a sinner who deserves no life but deserves eternal death in Hell. You need His pardon from your sins or your sins will take you to the fire of Hell. Hinduism is a very strong delusion, and it's much more similar to atheism than atheist or Hindus like to admit.

Side: No
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

If your Hinduschism is so good, and you are so good, how come you can't stop your dying?

Side: No
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

He suffered for you. If you don't care much what he did for you, why should He care about you being in Hell?

Side: No
1 point

http://www.createdebate.com/moderate/edit/I DeservetoDieandBurninHellForever

Check out my new debate where I am arguing that I really do deserve to die and burn in Hell forever. Many have simply agreed by saying "yep", but I think there have been some pretty good discussions.......maybe you can add to it.

Side: Yes
2 points

Yes, he punishes people because they do stuff HE doesn't like then to make people worship him he makes their life a living hell.

Side: Yes
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Sin's consequences are punishing. Sin has to be punished or God is not good.

Sin separates the sinner from God. It is punishing. That's why people think God is cruel, because they did not choose to come into existence and they are sinners experiencing the punishing effects of sin.

Side: No
foil7(345) Disputed
1 point

If I were God and I wanted to punish sinners, I would not give them eternal pain and punishment. When a kid does something wrong, he gets grounded for a length of time. His parents don't say, "Hey, Little Jimmy. Stay in your room forever." for doing something wrong. However, God is doing the latter. He punishes people for eternity with no chance at revival.

Side: Yes
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Why do people talk like parrots saying stupid things as if they can keep themselves out of Hell by insisting God does not have the right to punish them?

Side: No
foil7(345) Disputed
1 point

You are really amusing me with your arguments. Christians are the ones who talk like parrots and pray incantations.

Side: Yes
foil7(345) Disputed
1 point

You are really amusing me with your arguments. Christians are the ones who talk like parrots and pray incantations. You guys walk all say the same bull about God and loving god.

Side: Yes
2 points

I am not offended by what you say. Everyone has their beliefs and perceptions which I alone can not change. God is not cruel he puts us through pain and suffering for a reason. He may sound cruel at first and will be cruel to you but he does it to get your attention. He does it to make you stronger and better than before. God is the one and only one that can put you through pain and say he loves you. If anyone else does they are pulling your leg. God is the resurrection and the savior for all things.

Side: No
foil7(345) Disputed
1 point

Okay, when I learned about the Christian religion I did learn that God puts us through pain and suffering. I accept that. However, if you don't believe in him, he sends you to eternal punishment. That's a bit ridiculous.

Side: Yes
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Sin's consequences are punishing. Sin has to be punished or God is not good.

Sin separates the sinner from God. It is punishing. That's why people think God is cruel, because they did not choose to come into existence and they are sinners experiencing the punishing effects of sin.

Side: No
Annwad(14) Disputed
1 point

Ridiculous?

That's like saying its ridiculous if you murder someone, and they give you a life sentence .

You don't give murderers lollipops, you give them jail, it's how it works.

Side: No
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

God is cruel to those who see Him as cruel. That's all He can be toward them when they insist He is not good. They end up burning in Hell and forever, to them, God is unkind and cruel. They fail to see God is lovingly giving them what they wanted, and existence where they can believe there is nothing to prove God is good.

Side: Yes
foil7(345) Disputed
1 point

Give me one example how God is loving to people. Ever since the beginning of time, God has been killing and destroying. Take a look at Noah's Ark, Story of Sodom and Gomorrah, The Story of Lot, to name a few. Those are stories where God destroyed "his own people", the Israelites. We're not even counting foreigners such as the Babylonians, Romans, and others. Here is a fact, the Devil killed less people than God in the Bible.

Side: Yes
foil7(345) Disputed
1 point

Give me one example how God is loving to people. Ever since the beginning of time, God has been killing and destroying. Take a look at Noah's Ark, Story of Sodom and Gomorrah, The Story of Lot, to name a few. Those are stories where God destroyed "his own people", the Israelites. We're not even counting foreigners such as the Babylonians, Romans, and others. Here is a fact, the Devil killed fewer people than God in the Bible. Tell me how you can say that it isn't cruel.

Side: Yes
2 points

We are much more cruel to ourself by following these self-denial religions.

Side: No
2 points

The bible is all about a God who created man to interact with him. Now, the devil has seduced the human race so that they will practice sin, something opposite to God's nature. SO, God does not send anyone to hell. It's simply that sin cannot enter in heaven because heaven is a holy place.Jesus is the only solution to enter heaven because he took our sin on him. The only condition is to believe that it is true, because if you do not believe it, at the door of heaven you will still have all your sins with you, and the only place for you will be hell. So, hell is not a punishment for humans, it's a punishment for the devil, who deceived the human race so that they will join him. Please take a look at this article to understand why God exists

Supporting Evidence: The proof that Jesus is the son of God (thetruehope.blogspot.com)
Side: No
1 point

God is non existent. Something that is non existent can't be cruel.

Side: No
calvi(11) Disputed
1 point

you no what fuck you how and the hell do you think you came from a dame animal i dont know why you think he doesn't exist ill be praying for you god bless you man.

Side: Yes
IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
2 points

That was painful to read.

Side: Yes
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Listen, potty mouth, do you really expect anybody to read your post when you start off with nothing but the most highly offensive phrase you can hurl? Some people would knock your teeth out before you spit out three more words past your filthy abusive speech, and some like me would be kind enough to tell you to try to control yourself before you lose some teeth. I hope you have all of your teeth and keep them, and I hope your mommy doesn't run out of soap from repeatedly washing your mouth.

Side: No
Cartman(18205) Disputed
0 points

It's called evolution.

I think He doesn't exist because He shows no signs of existing.

Side: No
1 point

Exactly.

This debate topic might as well be.............

Is Santa too fat?

Does the Easter Bunny really screw like a rabbit?

How much does Thor's hammer weigh?

How far can Zeus throw a thunderbolt?

All of those questions have exactly the same amount of legitimacy as the Debate Headline does.

LOL

Side: No
1 point

Life is cruel. God however isn't cruel. So therefore if anything life is cruel.

Side: No
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
2 points

Life is a gift from God to be thankful for. It is not cruel, it is better than we deserve...as long as we are not burning in Hell, it's better than we deserve and our thanksgiving to God is always appropriate.

Side: Yes
0 points

God doesn't exist...

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Side: No
Saving101(17) Clarified
2 points

How do you know? And if you do not know, why do you believe this to be true?

Side: Yes
foil7(345) Clarified
1 point

How do you know that he is true? And if you do not know, why do you believe that to be true?

Side: Yes
Saintnow(3684) Disputed
1 point

Prove it

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Side: Yes