CreateDebate is a social debate community built around ideas, discussion and democracy.
If this is your first time checking out a debate, here are some quick tips to help get you started:
Arguments with the highest score are displayed first.
Argument replies (both in favor and in opposition) are displayed below the original argument.
To follow along, you may find it helpful to show and hide the replies displayed below each argument.
To vote for an argument, use these icons:
You have the power to cast exactly one vote (either up or down) for each argument.
Once you vote, the icon will become grayed out and the argument's score will change.
Yes, you can change your vote.
Debate scores, side scores and tag scores are automatically calculated by an algorithm that primarily takes argument scores into account.
All scores are updated in real-time.
To learn more about the CreateDebate scoring system, check out the FAQ.
When you are ready to voice your opinion, use the Add Argument button to create an argument.
If you would like to address an existing argument, use the Support and Dispute link within that argument to create a new reply.
You can share this debate in three different ways:
#1
#2
#3
Paste this URL into an email or IM:
Click here to send this debate via your default email application.
Click here to login and CreateDebate will send an email for you.
Is God real?
Who believes God is consideres real and who consideres him not real, this debate can be very sensitive to many so I would like everyone that answers to please be professional and kind to one another.
No argument is required to show that God is God. You have to invent arguments against God if you do not want to believe He rules over you and has the right to condemn you in your sins.....and all of those arguments are nonsensical because they all depend of logical fallacies being accepted as truth.
If you will not believe that God is God, nothing or nobody can prove to you that He is God...Not even God Himself standing in front of you saying "I am God", nor the fire of Hell tormenting you forever throughout eternity will prove to you that God is God. You just won't ever believe it, no matter what you will fall back on your doubts and have nothing to cling to but yourself....and with one foot in the grave and the other on thin ice melting over the fire of Hell, you have little to cling to.
What objective evidence would you present to support the claim that God is real? Belief in God is generally suggested to be a "faith" because it is a belief held without evidence. The only being which could exist without evidence, would be one which never interacts with the physical, which rules out most (if not all) definitions of "God".
Merriam Webster has a definition of "faith" that is more in line with the scriptural understanding of the concept. "something that is believed especially with strong conviction"
Strong conviction could very well come from evidence.
Are there people who believe in God without evidence? Surely. However, that type of faith is very weak.
My faith in God comes from understanding what the concept means. God as defined by Merriam-Webster is "The supreme and/or ultimate reality". If you understand what that definition means, it should be apparent that it is unreasonable to ask for evidence concerning the existence of God. Without God, there could be no such thing as evidence.
Setting up a new email address with Gmail is simple and free. Gmail is a cloud-based webmail account that you can enter into securely from any computer, tablet, or smartphone. https://gmailsignup.io
Yes God is real...don't tell me that scientists are able to explain how this world is made. The intricacies and the design cannot be explained. Also the Word of God aka the Bible has been the most influential book to humanity. Also I truly believe the Devil is real...so God must be real too.
What step in the mechanisms leading to the existence of this world are up for rational debate? We know that big bang occurred as a phase transition, that as it expanded and cooled the resulting quark/gluon plasma formed matter, that the presence of matter in space-time warps space-time leading to gravity which leads to the clumping of matter, and eventually, stars, planets and solar systems. Chaos Theory explains how order arises from apparent disorder, and abiogenesis explains how life arises from non-life. So I'm at a loss as to what part you see as being a mystery.
Hahahahah........".we know that big bang occurred as a phase of transition"......transition from what?
"Abiogenisis explains how life arises from non-life"? Hahahahhaha.........you're joking, right?
You state as facts things which you want to believe in, and you want to believe in them because your lusts are driving you to your doom and you feel like the pleasures you find are worth more than life.
Seems to me that God is specifically defined as that which is more real than anything could possibly be. God is more real than what you think is the most real. God IS the most real.
So really, if you answer anything other than "Yes, God is real!", you clearly don't understand what the concept of "God" means.
The truth of God existing does not follow from there being a definition that exists of God. Arguing for the definition of 'God being: the supreme or ultimate reality', is presupposing a conclusion to the topic being debated (that God exists) and attempting to argue for an entirely different claim that (after assuming he exists) he is also 'the supreme or ultimate reality. Can we stay on topic?
goooooooooooooooooooooooodddddddddddddddddddddddddddssssssssssssss real ........................................................................................................
The bible was invented by human beings thousands of years ago. These humans would have been powerful people trying to control masses using ideas based on imagination, not scientific fact.
Many events in the bible have already been proven impossible as we grow educated about the world around us.
Maybe read the bible again and notice the inaccuracies and contradiction. Than maybe you will understand. Nothing else to be said.
I know he watches over us. Who created the Bible? A man created the Bible: one of the men who communicated with God and knew his stories.
So God is real. God created the Big Bang. When he said, βLet there be light,β there was light. It had to be something. God created the heavens. He created Earth, Land, Animals, Humans, Heavens, etc. and on the seventh day, which is Sunday, he rested, for all was well with the world.
So anyone who thinks otherwise: what proof have you?
A widely accepted definition of real .........existing or occurring as fact; actual rather than imaginary, ideal, or fictitious:
a story taken from real life.
being an actual thing; having objective existence; not imaginary:
The events you will see in the film are real and not just made up......
Believers say that a supernatural enitity they cannot see , hear or touch exists and they have a ' personal relationship ' with him and he is indeed ' real ' .
Not one of them can produce 1 shred of concrete evidence to support their assertions which demonstrates clearly the old saying " you cannot reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into "
Reality is contingent on there being an Ultimate Reality.
As God is defined in Merriam-Webster as "The supreme and/or ultimate reality", God is clearly real, and the reality we experience comes from that very personal relationship all created beings have with God.
No, you cannot see, hear, or touch, God, but the fact that you have an experience at all testifies of the existence of God. All of creation testifies of God. There could not be reality without Ultimate and/or Supreme Reality.
Basically what you're saying is reality is contingent on there being a god which is nonsense , merely asserting there is a god proves absolutely nothing it's just your opinion .
I don't care what distinction the dictionary makes the reason I use 'god ' is not based on the opinion of you or a dictionary , the lower case g is to demonstrate the unimportance of the term to me , that should be obvious .
Also ......Definition of ultimate reality
:something that is the supreme, final, and fundamental power in all reality ultimate reality in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is God.......
Again merely your opinion and nothing else as is plainly obvious to all except you
So in other words, you are being arbitrary. Look at you, speaking for "all" as if you could possibly know what you are saying. You don't even respect language. For all I know, when you are talking about bread, you are really talking about stones. Your personal incorrect understanding of language is unimportant to me, that's for sure.
No, you serve only to be an example of the scripture that states,
"they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
You seem to have great difficulty comprehending simple concepts , whys that ?
I never claimed to speak for all you're the one doing that with your dictionary ' one fit all ' definitions , as for ' respecting ' language I'm afraid that's you again as in your ridiculous definitions for a big and little god .
The scriptures say a lot of things mostly bullshit , you wouldn't know the truth if it hit you face on, as for repenting πππ Yeah right
You are in denial of God. Comprehension issues naturally follow this, as you don't believe in the truth. Your standards are arbitrary. You say you have no gods, but it is evident that you take yourself as god above all. Talking will accomplish nothing. The only thing left for you is to repent.
Otherwise, you have locked yourself down by committing the only unforgivable sin. Blasphemy of The Spirit of Truth. Other sins can be shown charity, but not this one.
You can go on and on all you want, but until you accept the authority of the dictionary as it pertains to the defining of terms, nothing good can come out of a discussion.
You are willfully ignorant. I have no time for jokers.
Says the religious loony who doesn't understand simple terms and logic.
Truly you are the fulfillment of scripture, oh son of perdition. May you serve as an example to those with discernment. To the glory of God!
"For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."
Not interested in reading gibberish from a work of fiction ,truly you're still mentally unstable
I note with amusement that you like the cowardly dog you are say " I should grow a pair and debate you " then you ban me because you're a typical two faced Christian hypocrite who when hammered flees
Remember also you were the one who threw the first insult and it seems you don't like a taste of your own medicine
I'm not interested in debating you. You are clearly an arbitrary individual. Anyone can do what you are doing. Intelligence, sense, or good reason has nothing to do with it.
You've got nothing to bring to the table. I do not value your opinion. I also do not respect your judgement concerning anything. You, after all, deny ultimate reality. It is evident in your behavior. You have no love for the truth.
You are not interesting. People like you deserve to be tossed into furnaces. It is only the grace of God that allows you to live. Something you are obviously incapable of appreciating. I am not the judge of you. God is the judge. However, human beings are discerning creatures. That being the case, I have discerned you not being worthy of discussion.
If I use you for anything, and make no mistake, I'm not foolish enough to think that you could possibly be convinced by reason... I will be using you to demonstrate the futility and arbitrariness of the atheist position. That is all you are good for.
By the way, you pretty much gave away the fact that you have alternate accounts by claiming that I was telling you that you should grow a pair and debate me. I never said that to you.
Wow, really, such a loser.
If you are playing a role and pretending to be the character you are portraying, bravo I say. Keep up the good work and know that I respect what you are doing. You are doing a fine job representing the atheistic position. Someone has to play the part of fool, I suppose. God speed.
Wow, I've really got to you ? You dont like being corrected do you ? I note with amusement that you make allegations and when challenged accuse me of having alt accounts just because I've destroyed your ridiculous arguments .
Want to know how insane you are ? Just look at how many people have backed your horseshit up ..... zero , not even one believer backed you up . Of course like the retarded egotist you are you're to stupid to realise you havent even got an argument to start with
Regards your lying regarding what you actually said this proves you're a two faced coward , you said .......
TzarPepe(47) 1 point
If you feel that way, grow a pair and debate me instead of sitting all high, mighty, and smug on the sidelines.
If I'm such a half wit, how come my position is so unassailable? So far, I've only been met with the crying wails of the invalid.
If it was in fact you that I said this to, I stand corrected. I thought it was to someone else who was simply talking about me on the side rather than actually talking to me directly. I can not find the post.
But either way, I'm not interested in debating you. Your idea of debate is to simply contradict. You ain't standing on shit.
The truth of my argument is not contingent on whether or not anyone is willing to back me up.
Go ahead and call me a coward. You're the real coward. You can't even come to terms with reality. How can you be more cowardly than that?
There ain't no such thing as the supernatural. Still, the Greeks believed that Hades is the god of the Underworld. I wonder how many of them went there.