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Right buddy. Al Gore cleverly fooled 97 percent of climatologists into the belief that multi-billion dollar oil and natural gas companies were harming the environment. Multi-billion dollar oil and natural gas companies of course have no stake in whether they are forced to modify their practices, and are quite simply innocent bystanders caught up in the sinister crimes of Al Gore.
I would like to let you know that you are so stupid it is actually offensive.
So, what are normal temperatures? We've only been recording them for a century. Also, we've recently had a mini ice age. Perhaps temps are returning to normal.
Warming temperatures in the Arctic and melting of Arctic sea ice appear to initiate the movement of the polar vortex southward through a wavier shaped jet stream. - ref
Facts do not have a political bias. The reason you attempt to politicise everything you see, hear or read is because you are a mad authoritarian fascist.
Let us step back, examine the eividence and see what we can conclude.
We can conclude that you are very seriously mentally unwell. Here is a list of the puppet accounts you have used to write shitposts with in just the last four hours:-
Of course they are Bronto. I have sat here for four hours systematically downvoting every comment I make.
I have said it before but I will say it again. You are very possibly the most stupid person who has ever existed in history. No wonder you need so many accounts. You have to keep swapping them every time you say something stupid, and you say a LOT of stupid things.
Temps are dropping, idiot.http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/03/04/global-temperatures-keep-falling/
No, they are not dropping you spectacularly stupid little imbecile. The website you linked is a well-documented source of false information. See:-
CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE
ClimateDepot.com is the website of Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow employee Marc Morano, a conservative global warming denier who previously served as environmental communications director for a vocal political denier of climate change, Republican Sen. James Inhofe (Sourcewatch). (12/26/2016)
There is also the fact that we recently had a mini ice age. So of course temperatures are rising. But now they arent. They are dropping. Also, didn't Al Gore tell us the ice caps would be gone by now? Well, they're still there. Not one single catastrophic prediction has come true. Climate changes. That's what it does. It's been doing it for all of history.
I can explain to you how fucking stupid, dishonest and retarded you are, but let's be honest -- it won't make any difference. You are always going to be stupid, dishonest and retarded, aren't you?
I actually had the patience to check your first "random link":-
Investors Business Daily strays from the consensus of science in regards to climate change and they have made outrageous and false claims, such as Stephen Hawking would be dead if he lived under England’s Government health care system. This is a false propaganda statement as Stephen Hawking is a citizen of the UK and lives there. Hawking claims the British Healthcare system saved his life and kept him alive to old age.
What would you consider to be a reliable source? NOAA, maybe? Oh wait. They have been caught, red-handed, altering temperature data. Lol. Punk. Get a life.
How about something which isn't clearly listed as a fake news platform, you ignorant, crooked twit?
Scientific consensus
Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.
LOL! That 97 percent of scientists claim has been completely debunked. I'm surprised you had the guts to post it. Well. Not really. Because you are either too stupid to breathe, or you are being deliberately dishonest. Which is it?
American Association for the Advancement of Science
"The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." (2006)
American Chemical Society
"Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem."
American Geophysical Union
"Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." (Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013)
American Medical Association
"Our AMA ... supports the findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s fourth assessment report and concurs with the scientific consensus that the Earth is undergoing adverse global climate change and that anthropogenic contributions are significant." (2013)
American Meteorological Society
"It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." (2012)
American Physical Society
"The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." (2007)
The Geological Society of America
"The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s." (2006; revised 2010)
U.S. National Academy of Sciences
"The scientific understanding of climate change is now sufficiently clear to justify taking steps to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere." (2005)
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
“Human influence on the climate system is clear, and recent anthropogenic emissions of greenhouse gases are the highest in history. Recent climate changes have had widespread impacts on human and natural systems."
Well, I dunno. Is there an active volcano in the arctic , Iceland and Greenland too?? How about Alaska and Siberia?? Never been this warm in Siberia. DUH...……...
By far the most commonly occurring climate in Siberia is continental subarctic (Koppen Dfc or Dwc), with the annual average temperature about −5 °C (23 °F) and an average for January of −25 °C (−13 °F) and an average for July of +17 °C (63 °F), although this varies considerably, with a July average about 10 °C (50 °F) ...
FUCKIN IDIOT is Siberia melting according to your IGNORANT mind ??????????
In most of Siberia, yearly precipitation is between 150 and 500 millimetres (6 and 20 inches). In the far east, the Kamchatka peninsula is the wettest region of mainland Siberia: in some areas precipitation exceeds 1,000 mm (40 in) per year, and a lot of snow can fall in winter.
So can the Wacko Climate Alarmist tell us how Climate Change is affecting Siberia ?
By far the most commonly occurring climate in Siberia is continental subarctic (Koppen Dfc or Dwc), with the annual average temperature about −5 °C (23 °F) and an average for January of −25 °C (−13 °F) and an average for July of +17 °C (63 °F), although this varies considerably, with a July average about 10 °C (50 °F) ...
Does the temperature ever reach a temperature of 80 to 100 degrees due to Climate Chaos in Siberia you UNINFORMED CONFUSED FOOL ????
Brace yourselves. This Thanksgiving, 54.3 million people will travel 50 miles or more away from home, a 4.8 percent increase over last year.
That will be the highest volume of Thanksgiving travelers since 2005, with an additional 2.5 million people taking to the nation’s roads, skies, rails and waterways compared with last year, according to an analysis by AAA.
Most of those – 48.5 million – will drive to their destinations, a 5 percent increase over last year, says INRIX, a global mobility analytics company. Though gas prices have plunged in recent weeks, drivers will still be paying the highest Thanksgiving weekend gas prices in three years, says AAA. Even so, travel times in the most congested cities could be four times longer than a normal trip.
You FUCKIN FACTLESS FOOL !!!!!!!! What does the above have to do with FOX News ?
Is Human Activity or natural process Primarily Responsible for Global Climate Change
Hello:
When I was a kid, we used to throw our trash on the ground.. We did that because we THOUGHT we had SOOOO much ground, that a little bit of trash won't hurt it.. But, it did, so we STOPPED doing it..
When I was in the Navy, we used to throw our trash into the ocean because we THOUGHT that we had SOOOO much ocean, that a little bit of trash won't hurt it.. But, it did, and we're TRYING to stop it..
Now, we're throwing our trash into the air.. We're doing that because we think we have SOOOOO much air, that throwing a little bit of trash into it won't hurt..
Given our experience with the GROUND, and the OCEAN, I can't imagine ANYONE thinking that if we fill up the sky with trash, it won't hurt anything...
If you dumb fucking tree hugging environmentalists are so concerned about C02, why don't you just kill yourselves? That will reduce the amount of trash...in more than one way. Every time you exhale, you produce C02. So pop some pills, slit your wrists or whatever, and save the planet. Show us you really care.
(CNN) — Getting excited to eat your mother's roast turkey, your uncle's stuffing and your sister's famous green bean casserole?
First you have to get there.
A record 30.6 million passengers will travel on US airlines during the Thanksgiving holiday, up from an estimated 29 million passengers a year ago, according to a forecast by Airlines for America, an US airline trade organization.
The forecast translates to an estimated 2.55 million passengers per day, up 137,000 per day from a year ago.
The busiest flying day is projected to be Sunday, November 25, with an estimated 3.06 million passengers trying to get home. The second-busiest day will be Wednesday, November 21, with 2.93 million people flying the day before Thanksgiving.
The airline association defines the Thanksgiving travel season as starting Friday, November 16, and extending through Tuesday, November 27.
So the DUMB ASS says 30.6 million American passengers on US airlines are throwing their trash into the air !!!! Does the LACK OF FACTS DUMMY know the percentage of Leftist in the 30.6 million people that flew during the Thanksgiving Holiday ?
Well it's not trash. It's carbon emissions that occur naturally in mass across the globe. California tells us cow farts are destroying the environment. I just saw a debate posted on here. Guess what the topic was. California has the lowest education in the country. Couldn't have guessed that...
Has there ever in the history of mankind been a subject that hasn't had opposition at one point or another?
In this instance, the majority of scientists, climatologist and scientific societies have agreed, climate change are "extremely likely due to human activities".
Imagine if we gave up industry, the Chinese didn't, and then the future scientists said a mix of tectonic movement and volcanic CO2, or oscilations/climate cycling caused the slight temperature change.
Brace yourselves. This Thanksgiving, 54.3 million people will travel 50 miles or more away from home, a 4.8 percent increase over last year.
That will be the highest volume of Thanksgiving travelers since 2005, with an additional 2.5 million people taking to the nation’s roads, skies, rails and waterways compared with last year, according to an analysis by AAA.
Most of those – 48.5 million – will drive to their destinations, a 5 percent increase over last year, says INRIX, a global mobility analytics company. Though gas prices have plunged in recent weeks, drivers will still be paying the highest Thanksgiving weekend gas prices in three years, says AAA. Even so, travel times in the most congested cities could be four times longer than a normal trip.
So Dummy pick your number here - Is it 54.3 million people or 48.5 million people you want to blame on the Fake Global Chaos you believe in ???????
Shut up Bronto. You are a stupid fucking infantile idiot.
Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.
I made my claim up Bronto, because this is the best way to respond to idiots who make up claims. The fact that there is a volcano underneath Antarctica obviously does not disprove the reality of man-made climate change.
This "geothermal heat flux" is key data required by scientists in order to model how the White Continent is going to react to climate change.
Nature. The planet has had millions of serious climate changes over billions of years.
Bronto, do the world a favour and stop talking, you ridiculously dishonest, dumb little cunt.
Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.
Appeal to authority, and not even a specific defense of anything, because you don't even understand the topic. Likely means it's a big, whopping guess. That's why you never quote what these journals actually say, nor do you ever quote their data. You're full of shit, and don't know why because you are an idiot.
By that logic it is an appeal to authority to argue that the world is round or that the Sun is hot.
Shut up you stupid cunt.
and not even a specific defense of anything
It is a specific defence of the fact that science says humans are causing climate change.
Likely means it's a big, whopping guess.
Even if it is a guess, it's a guess being made by the people best qualified to make that guess. Your theory that oil companies should be making that guess instead is... Flawed.
That's why you never quote what these journals actually say
I quoted NASA you stupid cunt. If you have a problem with NASA's interpretation of the facts then take it up with them.
You rely on a consensus of scientists to tell you whether the Sun is hot.
and not a complex equation to figure out.
So let me get this straight. We have proven the Sun is hot, which is 93 million miles away, but we can't prove the planet we live on is hot because it is "a complex equation to figure out"? Is that what you're telling us?
I can see its effects. The climate looks the same as it did when I was a kid, and the same as my father when he was a kid. They actually claim it used to feel hotter.
You rely on a consensus of scientists to tell you whether the Sun is hot.
Nope. People realized the sun was hot 10,000 years ago when its appearance made it hot and its disappearance made it less hot.
So let me get this straight. We have proven the Sun is hot, which is 93 million miles away, but we can't prove the planet we live on is hot because it is "a complex equation to figure out"? Is that what you're telling us?
None of that was said. We know the sun is hot because getting closer to it makes it hotter.
So we can see the effects of warming on an object 93 million miles away but not the effects of warming on our own climate? Sounds legit. Tell me more bro.
The climate looks the same as it did when I was a kid
So does the Sun. Obviously this proves there is no warming going on. Doh!
but not the effects of warming on our own climate?
The sun making us hot is a constant variable that never changes.
The climate changing is an ever changing, complex event that has caused 7 ice ages.
So does the Sun. Obviously this proves there is no warming going on. Doh!
I don't claim the climate is changing because of man, so your statement doesn't logically follow. Both are the same as my childhood proves my point, not yours.
Ahahahaha! A constant is the OPPOSITE of a variable, you hilariously stupid dickhead. The clues are in the names, idiot. Did you even learn third grade maths?
The climate changing is an ever changing, complex event that has caused 7 ice ages.
The climate had nothing to with the onset of ice ages you daft bastard. Ice ages are caused by the Milankovitch cycles. Read a book for fuck's sake. You are embarrassingly stupid.
Cool. How do you know which part of the cycle we are in? Is this the part where the temperature rises a mild tad like perhaps when much of Alexandria somehow wound up under the sea? Or did the ancient Egyptians cause thousands of cities to be covered by ocean waters by their emmitting carbon with their 2,000 year old automobiles?
Just because there are types of climate change other than man made climate change doesn't mean man made climate change doesn't exist. Your arguments are juvenile, simple minded and intentionally dishonest. So stop referring to ancient civilizations and try to dispute the indisputable fact that humans are emitting gases that trap heat in the atmosphere.
So stop referring to ancient civilizations and try to dispute the indisputable fact that humans are emitting gases that trap heat in the atmosphere.
Demonstrate to me that gases being trapped in the atmosphere isn't due to natural phenomenon. Then provide me data from any other time period to compare it to. Oh wait. I gave you the best data available. That data of another time period is? Cities were covered over with water not that long ago but before industrialization. Was it because "gases trapped heat in the atmosphere"?
Demonstrate to me that gases being trapped in the atmosphere isn't due to natural phenomenon.
Humans use fossil fuels in their vehicles and factories and it causes CO2 to be emitted. CO2 causes temperatures to rise because it traps heat in the atmosphere.
The climate had nothing to with the onset of ice ages you daft bastard. Ice ages are caused by the Milankovitch cycles. Read a book for fuck's sake. You are embarrassingly stupid.
Interesting. So what caused it all of the other times?
Nothing caused anthropological global warming any other times, because it has only been going on since the industrial revolution.
Deliberately confusing natural historical variations in the Earth's climate with human-induced global warming is pretty stupid, given that 97 percent of climatologists agree they are two separate things.
Nothing caused anthropological global warming any other times, because it has only been going on since the industrial revolution
You've shown zero data to even prove it's anthropological in the first place, so your statement is pointless. For all we know, it's just a part of a climate cycle, like all of the millions of other dramatic climate shifts in world history.
Why do you think so many old cities are under water? What caused that Nom? Carbon emissions? Do tell.
You've shown zero data to even prove it's anthropological in the first place
Absolutely demonstrably false.
The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia.
Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale. This body of data, collected over many years, reveals the signals of a changing climate.
Your arbitrary reinterpretation of a "greater than 95 percent probability" as "zero data" aptly illustrates why you should not be using a debating site. You are a complete fucking idiot who would deny his own nose for the sake of making money.
Your copy and paste nowhere tells us any data or tells us why or how on anything. You continue to avoid telling us how or why, or present us any actual specific data. It should be easy if you are right.
You are a complete fucking idiot
I'm far more intelligent than you are.
who would deny his own nose for the sake of making money.
I read it. I could easily refute its hypothesis and explanations. You can't even describe what is in them because you don't understand them. If you did, you would have explained them earlier when I asked.
One explanation for the hypothesis was sea level rising. I just pointed out many pre industrial revolution cities being deep under water.
Another explanation for the hypothesis was antarctic ice melts. I pointed out earlier that there are volcanoes under the antarctic ice.
Another explanation for the hypothesis was ice cap melts from a few decades of data concerning satelite imagery. The problem is we have no satelite imagery of any other time period in history to know if this is a normal cyclic pattern that happens every few decades or centuries or so. For all we know the slow shifts of the Earth cause this by its altered tilt, among many other factors, such as sun spots and flares.
Deliberately confusing natural historical variations in the Earth's climate with human-induced global warming is pretty stupid, given that 97 percent of climatologists agree they are two separate things.
Agreeing they are two seperate things doesn't mean man actually IS causing it. Even if you could, which you've shown no data as of yet, the Chinese are the biggest emissions producer, and they laugh at your rules.
You obviously didn't watch the video. They don't agree with you.
Yes, they do agree with me:-
Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.
Looking at all the facts is useful. You prefer not to.
Your own sources refute your position you astonishingly stupid little retard. From your own source:-
Dr. James E. Hansen, the top climate scientist at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), believes that the world has little time to waste in reversing its current trend toward global warming. In late 2005, however, Dr. Hansen's ability to voice his concerns about global warming was severely compromised by NASA public affairs officials. After he called on the United States to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in a December 2005 lecture, Dr. Hansen found that NASA officials began reviewing and filtering public statements and press interviews in an effort to limit his ability (as well as that of other government scientists) to publicly express scientific opinions that clashed with the Bush administration’s views on global warming.
Jesus Christ you are so redundantly stupid. Your sources are stories about how Hansen was being gagged by the Bush Administration from publicly speaking about the extent of the threat being posed by global warming. In other words, they support my claims and refute your own.
United Kingdom (UK) oil and natural gas production have grown on average almost 9% and 4% per year, respectively, from 2014 through 2016. Among European countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), the UK was the second-largest producer of petroleum and other liquids in 2016; only Norway produced more. The UK was the third-largest producer of natural gas in OECD Europe, surpassed only by Norway and the Netherlands. High oil and natural gas prices through late 2014 encouraged high levels of investment in the industry and have led to recent production increases. However, since then prices and investment have declined, and production is likely to return to its long-term declining trend.
The UK is the fifth-largest economy in the world in terms of gross domestic product. Following years as a net exporter of crude oil and natural gas, the UK became a net importer of both fuels in 2004 and 2005, respectively, and in 2013 the UK became a net importer of petroleum products, making it a net importer of all fossil fuels for the first time.
Hey you fuckin idiot are you confused by the fucking facts that seem to escape your goddamn pea brain ???????????
So what was it due to when ancient cities which are now under water started going under water?
Hello K:
The ground underneath your feet may FEEL solid, but the earth's crust floats on top of a sea of red hot magma.. When one plate runs into another plate, it has dramatic results.. Land grows while other land disappears. Mountains are made, and other mountains are destroyed..
When one plate runs into another plate, it has dramatic results.. Land grows while other land disappears. Mountains are made, and other mountains are destroyed
Cool. So how do you plan on preventing nonmanmade plate movement...
You used them as your rebuttal for why the oceans rise. So the oceans are going to rise and take out the coasts regardless of climate change, eh Con? Let me put out this cigarette...
(CNN) — Getting excited to eat your mother's roast turkey, your uncle's stuffing and your sister's famous green bean casserole?
First you have to get there.
A record 30.6 million passengers will travel on US airlines during the Thanksgiving holiday, up from an estimated 29 million passengers a year ago, according to a forecast by Airlines for America, an US airline trade organization.
The forecast translates to an estimated 2.55 million passengers per day, up 137,000 per day from a year ago.
The busiest flying day is projected to be Sunday, November 25, with an estimated 3.06 million passengers trying to get home. The second-busiest day will be Wednesday, November 21, with 2.93 million people flying the day before Thanksgiving.
The airline association defines the Thanksgiving travel season as starting Friday, November 16, and extending through Tuesday, November 27.
It's obvious that anything that comes out of "The Crotch of Mao" would have a stench to it and add to the pollutants of the world! :-(
I'm very unclear on what this means, but perhaps it means China is polluting like a stackhouse on steroids, plans on polluting more, is militarizing at a very rapid pace, and doesn't give a flying rat's ass what any Future Climate Accord says.
If you check it out, China AND Russia are quite serious about climate change and cleaning up their air and water. They have a big job ahead because they WERE some of the worst polluters. They SEE the problem, they SEE that their coal use has GOT to be reduced. They're smarter than our conservatives. ;-)