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Is Islam a religion of violence or a religion of peace?

Muslims all over the world insist that Islam is a religion that espouses peace and understanding. Yet everyday we read or watch news of violence made by their fanatics. What's your say on this?

Religion of Violence

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Religion of Peace

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According to the Koran a Muslim who renounces Islam should be put to death. Once you are in you can't get out. I don't know exactly what the questioner means by 'religion of violence' but I think a religion that kills adherents for wanting to get out ought to be considered violent.

564 days ago
- Probama123(36) Disputed
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"Any man who lays with a man as though he were a woman is an abomination, and should be put to death"

Christianity demands we kill all the gays. All the books were written in a different time, and therefore should not be taken too literally. If we do then lots of religions are violent. I mean what book demands we go around and put gays to death?

315 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
- altarion(1824) Disputed
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So Christianity in the Middle Ages was a religion of violence then?

350 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Violence
- ModusPonem(23) Disputed
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Christianity TODAY is a religion of violence

273 days ago
- Spoonerism(602) Supported
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Absolutely it was and far worse than Islam. Christianity, for such a short-lived religion, has had its share of violence.

98 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
- Redinferno(7) Disputed
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If a Muslims leaves Islam he will put doubt in the hearts of those who are still Muslim. He may cause them to leave Islam and ultimately enter Hell. An apostate should keep his apostasy secret or make it public in a Non-Muslim country.

If he makes it public in a Muslim country he is given three days to repent. If he refuses to do so then he should be killed. That is to protect others from having their faith weakened. It doesn't make Islam violent.

141 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
- Spoonerism(602) Disputed
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If he makes it public in a Muslim country he is given three days to repent. If he refuses to do so then he should be killed. That is to protect others from having their faith weakened. It doesn't make Islam violent.

Um...hello? Um..hi? Seriously?! What you're saying is, if a Muslim makes public his change of heart in a Muslim country, they will kill him (Or threaten him that if he fails to change back in 3 days, he will be killed). AND you go on to say that this doesn't prove it's a violent religion?

I'm confuzzled.

98 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Violence
- SimpleTruth(11) Disputed
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This my friend is NOT Islam. Islam is what the Quran proposes and God says in the Quran that He has PERFECTED our religion. What ever has been added after that, like Ahadith, Siras, Fatwas etc. is therefore null and void as God Alone is the Giver of religion, Not men.

1 day 11hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Violence
- SimpleTruth(11) Disputed
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Get your facts right if you wish to attack Islam. You are basing your argument on a false proposition. The Quran says no such thing. It says that renouncing Islam means your good deeds are null and void, meaning you will end up in hell. However no punishment is recommended NOR allowed as "there is no compulsion in religion".

1 day 12hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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Islam means peace. The religion divides the world into two zones: the house of peace (Islam), and the house of war. If you're not in the house of Islam, then you're in the house of War. Gee, I wonder what that means...

62 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Violence
- SimpleTruth(11) Disputed
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In Dar as Salaam (Realm of Peace) peace will reign and oppression is banned. In Dar al Harb (Realm of War) people oppress each other and aggress against each other, which leads to violence and war. This is what it means.

1 day 11hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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Terrorists or freedom fighters. Depends on your point of view. From my point of view a lot of muslims are violent in the name of islam. The so called moderate ones remain quiet. The sharia law can be quite unforgiving. In the past laws in christian countries were not much different, but christians have grown beyond that and appear more humane now.

Since the beginning of islam, it has been opposing other religions agressively and it does not seem this will end anytime soon.

Muslims want one world-wide base religion only; Islam. Non muslims are lesser beings in their view, fit to do away with, at best tolerated if useful.

To islam, not believing is unthinkable. Eradication of undesirables, reason and inconvenient science justifiable. Their message of peace includes putting nay sayers to the sword.

You could say that the other mainstream religion has not been that much different in the past, and you would be right. But dealing with the here and now, islam is violent.

553 days ago
- Probama123(36) Disputed
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Christianity is pretty bad too. This kid in my school got beaten up really bad and ended up breaking his legs, because he was muslim and all the christians hated him. I have to keep explaining to kids that im Hindu, not Muslim, when people call me terrorist, and American hater. It's annoying, but i deal with it. Christians look down upon others too, I've had a christian walk up to me in the mall slip me a brochure and say, if you don't convert to christianity you will burn in hell forever you sinner. They look down on me, but oh well. After saying that i still do not think Christianity is a religion of violence, there are just some nutcases, like there are in Islam. Most Muslims arent violent just the crazies, as with christianity.

315 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
- Redinferno(7) Disputed
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Terrorists or freedom fighters. Depends on your point of view. From my point of view a lot of muslims are violent in the name of islam.

A small portion of Muslims fight in the name of Islam. Most are peaceful.

The sharia law can be quite unforgiving.

The Shariah Law sets punishments for serious crimes such as murder. Should we forgive people who steal, murder or rape? They are given severe punishment that they deserve.

Since the beginning of islam, it has been opposing other religions agressively and it does not seem this will end anytime soon.

Opposing how? It allows people to have whatever Religion they want. It doesn't force people to Islam. How does it aggressively oppose them.

Muslims want one world-wide base religion only; Islam. Non muslims are lesser beings in their view, fit to do away with, at best tolerated if useful.

As I said it allows other people to have whatever Religion they want. No Muslims is allowed to force anyone else to Islam. In the Quran. Muslims are ordered to treat non-Muslims who don't fight against them kindly and justly.

To islam, not believing is unthinkable. Eradication of undesirables, reason and inconvenient science justifiable. Their message of peace includes putting nay sayers to the sword.

Completely untrue. Islam allows people to have whatever Religion they want. It doesn't have non-Muslims killed.

143 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
- ModusPonem(23) Supported
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I really wish the "peaceful" Muslims would do something about the non-peaceful ones, because it's making them all look bad.

273 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Violence
- smilnjan(108) Disputed
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So saying, you can definitely use this argument for any organized religion. How many wars were fought in the name of Christianity? I believe religion is being used as a springboard for certain people to force their views on others or to get power or stay in power. If one feels that others that do not believe in what they believe is a 'lesser being' and chooses to go to war or be active in terrorism, that isn't necessarily the religion itself, but the persons interpreting said religion. Many people believe that those active in the Church of Satan are violent people, but the ones I've met, and I've met a few, are very peaceful people.

Supporting Evidence: Official Church of Satan website (www.churchofsatan.com)
552 days ago
- SimpleTruth(11) Disputed
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True some Mulims are violent in THE NAME of Islam. But actually they are doing so in disobedience of Islam, as aggression and oppression both are strictly forbidden to Muslims.

Islam has certainly NOT been aggressively opposing other religions. If it had other religions would soon have become extinct in Muslim ruled countries, which they did not.

In fact Islam advocates "no compulsion in religion" and views Christians and Jews and others as 'People of the book', a sort of co-religionists afforded special privileges in Muslim countries.

The meaning of Islam is manyfold, but any believer in one god, who submits his will to the will of God is, in a sense, "Muslim" and will go to Paradise. Therefore the idea of one religion only does not mean what non-muslims understand as Islam.

Putting nay-sayers to the sword is, perhaps a Christian, or Jewish idea, but absolutely NOT an Islamic one as again "there is no compulsion in religion" (Quran).

1 day 10hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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Any Religion that promisses you 72 virgins if you die bombing someone else is a religion of violence. Just like Christianity was a religion of violence in the middle ages when the pope said that any Crussader who was killed in battle would go to heaven. Both are really one and the same.

350 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Violence
- SimpleTruth(11) Disputed
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No religion promises you a reward for bombing. Certainly not Islam. What it does promise is hell for those who commit suicide, or murder people, as the killing of one person is like killing all humanity.

1 day 11hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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Kill, enslave or convert all non-muslims, as it says quite a few times in Quran and proven more than enough in southeast europe does not sound like a peaceful religion. Even the beginning of the Islamic movement (6th cent.) was started with war...and one of the first victims of those who did not wish to join Mohammed were Jews living in the areas of Mecca & Medina.

124 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Violence
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@ gdelfman

You are referring to the so called "Sword Verses", which in fact refer to the war, at the time of the revelation, between the believers of Medina and the unbelievers of Mecca.

It is by no means a license to kill non-believers, outside of a war where Muslims were under attack. This is made very clear in other verses of the Quran.

The war you are talking about was in fact a war of defence, as the new Muslim community had repeatedly been attacked by the Meccans.

The Jews of Medina had agreed a concord with the Muslims, by which they were bound. However they betrayed the Medinans and were in collusion with the Meccans.

Treason is a capital offense even in modern wars and, by any sixth century standards, putting traitors to death was standard practice. 6th century acts must reasonably be judged by 6th century standards right?

1 day 10hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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let me tell you something, if you say your a follower of Islam, and say its peaceful or act peaceful, your not really Islamic at all. your a sub-division believer who has chosen to follow some preacher who speaks of Islam is his own version, of course i would rather have some fake peaceful Islamic religion then the other kind, but thats irrelevant to the question. Muhammad was a war lord, if you do not believe me, read his bibliography, but not the liberal version of course. when he started off "peaceful" you could say, the merchants in Mecca got worried his ideology would ruin their business. so they kicked Muhammad out of Mecca. he goes to a nearby town and uses his religion as a recruiting tool to take back Mecca. when hes ready, he has about, o, just around ten thousand men only. so a big battle happens, Muhammad wins, they raid Mecca and conquerer it. after that new rules and rituals are added to the religion, such as the most unpeacful one invented which is, if a person who is captured, dose not turn to the Islamic faith, he is a slave, he must pay a slave tax such as giving up a daughter or money etc, if he refuses to be a slave, you then decapitate them. when the Ottoman empire pushed into Europe, instead of giving slaves their two options when captured, they were enlisted into the military life the second they were captured, they became janissaries, elite soldiers who were used to be European christens, who then get brainwashed with the Islamic religion. and now adays, the whole idea of a suicidal bomber killing innocents is praised and deemed the most highest form of martyr possible in the Islam religion. so if you still think the Islamic religion is peaceful, read some educating books like " guide to the Islam religion" and things like that. they will show you the true Islamic religion in its bloodbath cult.

5 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Violence
- beaty(39) Disputed
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First of all the Nation of Islam is not the original Islamics, The Assyrians (Greeks) and Babylonians (Libya), Idumaeans (Edomites, today known as Italians they are jews, their children of Esau, Jacobs twin brother), As well as other Africans and Indians. They captured Israel and exiled the original jews to many different locations around the world.(II Kings 17:23). You can find it in your history books too. I'm reading a book about it now called ROME and JERUSALEM the CLASH of ANCIENT CIVILIZATION; Author: Martin Goodman. If you watch that documentary with Bill Maher called "RELIGULOUS". You'll see that all the religious governments say that it is all about politics. Allah is not in the Equation.

1 day 12hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
- SimpleTruth(11) Disputed
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You have a completely errant view of Islam. I gather you have spent too much time on lying, Islam-bashing sites.

Muhammad, being the prophet of Islam, could not have disobeyed God. Therefore he did not start any war, as God forbids Muslims to aggress.

Those who chose not to become Muslims were, by no means forced, or enslaved. However Non-muslims were exempted from serving in the Muslim army and exempt from giving charity.

Instead a form of poll tax, the Jaziya, was extracted. This was equivalent to, or lower than what Muslims were expected to pay to the poor.

Suicide killings are in direct contradiction of the Quran, which forbids suicide and oppression and suicide killings are both.

1 day 11hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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151 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Violence
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I think most religions were started as peaceful religions and they are still based on peace. The only reason any religion has violent history or followers is because there are always individuals who are too ignorant to follow their own beliefs and treat others with peace. They see the rule of "treat others peaceful" as "treat your own kind peaceful only."

192 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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Violent peace but peace just the same ;)

273 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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The Quran says:

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error ( 2:256 )

This verse makes it clear that Muslims are not allowed to force others to accept Islam.

The Quran also says:

1. Say : O ye that reject Faith!

2. I worship not that which ye worship,

3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

4. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

6. To you be your Way, and to me mine.

( 109:1-6 )

It says that others can have their Religion and we will have ours. Islam allows freedom of Religion. So then where do all the arguments that Muslims want to make Islam the only Religion on the earth come from?

People look at Muslim Terrorist and say that Islam is a Religion of violence. Why look at them. Why not look at the majority of Muslims or look at the Prophet Muhammed ( SAW ). When the Prophet Muhammed ( SAW ) conquered Makkah with his army of 10000 Muslims all the Makkans thought that He would have them killed for oppressing him and the Muslims but instead the Prophet Muhammed forgave them all and said they could keep their Religions.

Islam not only allows freedom of Religion but it also says the we Muslims must deal justly and kindly with non-muslims:

8. Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. ( 60:8 )

144 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
- SimpleTruth(11) Supported
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@ Redinferno

That is exactly right and very well put! If other religions were as open minded as Islam there could have been no religious wars.

People accuse Muslims of having conquered much of the world in a bid to force people to become Muslim, but in fact this was a war of liberation, liberation from oppression actually.

This is also the reason why you will find in Muslim countries, Christian sects, which had been exterminated as heretics in Christian countries. So, far from forcefully converting people, Muslims actually preserved believers in their respective faiths.

1 day 10hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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I think that at it's root, Islam is a religion of peace. However, extremists who have an agenda to push brainwash millions of young Muslims in to thinking that their purpose on this Earth is to kill anyone who's not a Muslim. This is not the teachings of the Koran, yet these people make others believe that it is.

565 days ago
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I suppose it is much like the Mormons, it depends on the sect. not all Mormons are polygamists, but they all call themselves Mormon. So, for the most part, I believe that the "main stream" religion is peaceful, but it is the 'stray' sects that we most remember as violent.

563 days ago
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Welcome to the third world, where tribal ties are still in play and violence is considered an acceptable means of societal control. The acts of Muslims extremists are pretty much the same as rebels in Africa, Islam just gives an effective point of focus, regardless of its doctrines - this is the same for any other religion. I seriously doubt that if Islam and Christianity's positions were switched - if Islam were popular in the West and Christianity were popular in the Middle East - we'd see an appreciable difference in how the world is today.

559 days ago
- SimpleTruth(11) Disputed
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You know anyone can call himself a Muslim. Only his actions will tell, whether or not he is telling the truth. So if his actions are in accordance with the injunctions of the Quran he is in fact a Muslim, if not he is an impostor and a liar.

1 day 10hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Violence
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I am Muslim and I don't think any of this non-sense is true. I have read the Quarn many times. Islam is the meaning of peace. There are some people that make bad choices when there not so pose to be doing that. Youngsters that are Muslim all over the world think that its okay to go outside and go shout someone down. Just because of 9/11. People discriminate me so many times, just because I'm Muslim. Can you believe that?

280 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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Islam is a religion of peace. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Our prophet(peace be upon him) was ranked no 1 in the world by a christian guy.Nobody have to fear islam.The only time people will fight in islam is to protect the religion if there is people that wants to attack islam.the wars in the past was not started by islam.it was always the other religions that attacked.like the christians believe in Jesus but dont defend him if they use him in a cartoon.But when our prophet(peace be upon him) was mocked islam right over the world defended him.Where is the other religions structure?

192 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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We shouldnt be attacking each others religion.Islam teaches us that we need to respect one another and respect there religion and practices.Islam is our religion and the prophet is our example.If everyone can just work on the respect part then we wont have war and fighting over religion.its an individual choice of he's beliefs.A person can tell another person about the religion but still it depends on that individual.the fighting in this world is not about wiping out people but more about owning worldly things,to be in control.If only people can realise that everything on this galaxy only have limited time in this world.Have you ever seen somebody comes back from he's or her grave?We have much more better things to worry about.the people that want to attack other people is people that have no commen sense.what do they gain out of killing people.in the end they are just losers.

192 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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extremists are not part of islam, those who commit violence are seperate.

552 days ago
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Most muslims are peaceful, then they get some crazies wrecking everything.

486 days ago | Tagged As: Peaceful
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islam is the only way

318 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
- ModusPonem(23) Disputed
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no there are many ways. I have attached a list.

Supporting Evidence: A short list of some of the world's "ways" (www.religioustolerance.org)
273 days ago
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Here is an easy game. You name me one Muslim terrorist, and I name you one Muslim who is very peace-loving. While your list stretches to the thousands at most, I can guarantee you my list can stretch to hundreds of millions.

Not all of us are extremists. Some of us suffer from this war. While the people outside of the third world do not comprehend this, it is easy for a fourteen year old. And to all those Christians out there who think we hate Noah, Jacob, Isaac, Solomon, Joseph, David, Moses, Abraham and Jesus,

Think again.

60 days ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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The Qu'ran is written and should not be adjusted to fit anyones opinion or beliefs, what is written is what should stay, and we should analyze our own convictions and align it with what the Qu'ran says, trying our best to live righteously and at peace with our fellow man. The world is loaded with hypocrites and sinners, can we follow the Qu'ran totally? I seriously doubt it.

1 day 13hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
- SimpleTruth(11) Disputed
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@beaty

You know, all God asks of us is that we strive to become righteous people. We will try and we will fail, and beg God's forgiveness, and keep trying throughout life. Never stop striving and praying for goodness and you will have succeeded in the eyes of God.

1 day 10hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Violence
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Islam instructs its followers never to kill any one, but for just reasons, i.e. after a death sentence or in self defense, as unjustly killing a person is like killing all humanity.

Islam teaches us that oppression is even worse than killing and we are forbidden to commit suicide as well. Also there is no compulsion in religion so we are forbidden to forcibly convert anyone to Islam.

We know how many wars have been instigated by other religions fired with the will to convert people at all cost.

1 day 10hrs ago | Tagged As: Religion of Peace
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