Is Pakistan a Rogue state
Yes
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No
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Pakistan has been involved in many terrorism activities. It is widely believed that hundreds of terrorist training camps operate in Pakistan. The terrorist involved in the recent attacks in Mumbai are believed to have come from Pakistan. Indian security agencies have also found many proofs which point finger to Pakistan. Please debate and decide whether Pakistan should be termed as a rogue state and dealt like Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Side: yes
Yes, Pakistan should be treated as a rogue state as it has miserably failed to contain terrorism and constantly exports terrorism to India and other neighbouring countries. The Government there does not seem to be in control of what is happening and the looks like every move made by the government will have to be approved by the army which is very hard line. This is best evidenced by the fact that Pakistan agreed to send ISI's chief to India to help with the investigation and later back-tracked and said that a low ranking official from the ISI would visit India. This shows that the army still interferes in the country's governmental affairs. Indian Security agencies and Intelligence agencies from several countries have in the past provided proof to Pakistan about involvement of terrorist groups based in Pakistan in carrying out attacks in India and elsewhere, but Pakistan has always refused to accept responsibility. To put it bluntly, Pakistan has lied and is still lying to the whole world that its Intelligence Agency, the ISI is very innocent. It is possible that the Pakistan Government may not have been aware of the attack on Mumbai, but its intelligence agency is most certainly aware. Whilst Pakistan needs to be categorised as a rogue state and isolated, I am not too sure if a full fledged attack on its soil will yield the requisite results. It is nuclear armed and god alone knows on whose hands these weapons are. So it is better to tame them by imposing sanctions and isolate them through various means other than war. If there is enough evidence that Pakistan is responsible for the attack, the US and other world powers should come out in the open to declare that Pakistan is a rogue state and deal with it accordingly. The US in particular must rise above its current interest of taking help from Pakistani Forces in dealing with Afghanistan and show why it is the sole super power in the world by taking decisions in accordance with its morals and values. Side: yes
It is so easy to say "Pakistan may be dealt with force like Iraq and Afghanistan. You learned member kindly go through the ground realities. Pakitan is a state of 180 million people. A strong Army backed by Nuclear and conventional missile technology capable to utilize all available defense facilities. Any misadventure shall be disasterous for the whole region. The allegation of running terrorist camps and providing sanctuaries in Pakistan has failed to prove. Pakitan is working with ISAF and sharing every sort of information with Nato Forces. The allied forces never said this. If any body is having any information regarding terrorist training camps in Pakistan please provide information and location. The camps shall be eliminated and the terrorist shall be brought to justice. SMIQBAL. Side: No
I would say Pakistan is a rouge state and also a failed state. But one cannot wish this malice away. It doesn't go away. Pakistan abhors Hindu idolater India. They consider it their birthright to do so. Most of them feel so because of their religious belief. Moreover for an ignorant and illiterate Pakistani spicing up this, is a feel good factor, this is well read by the run-of-the-mill Pakistani politician and to top it, a dearth of statesman like figure throughout its history has never given ground for good sense to prevail in it at the grass-root level. People like Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan – Forntier Ghandhi – was rejected by the Pakistan’s people is an example pointing in that direction. The moral of this is you must abhor sin not your neighbour and if you do so God will abhor you! For Pakistan to save itself from this whirlpool of ‘hate India’ education will be a good factor but above this a self-will to turn away from the direction in which it is heading, is a must and for this it must pray to produce a statesman like Frontier Ghandhi. Side: rouge Pakistan Frontier Ghandhi
By definition, a 'Rogue State' means a state which is a threat to world peace. In the present times, this definition fits Pakistan more than any other country in the world. Pakistan's army & it's intelligence agency ISI, created, nurtured, aided & abetted most of the terror outfits of the world at some point or the other. It created groups like Taliban, Lashker-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi etc & supported groups like Al Qaeda etc. Besides this Pakistan is also a known to have proliferated Nuclear technology to other rogue states like North Korea & Iran. Given the above, Pakistan is clearly the biggest threat to world peace & hence the biggest Rogue States of them all. Side: yes
I'm a muslim from India and worked closely with many pakistanis, indians, philipinos and various others in middleast. While everyone works hard and sincere, a majority of pakistanis were insincere and lie easily though they give an impression they follow islam. Their leaders in pakistan is an exact replica of the general public. Hense its a ROUGUE STATE. Side: yes
Pakistan is much more than a rogue state. Going against its founding founding father's principles of tolerance and liberalism, Pakistan has time and time again committed bloodshed, conspired and tried to disrupt not only other countries but its own minorities. India, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, USA, the Ahmadis, Shias and many others have suffered immensely from its transgressions. Now, it is trying to arm militant islamic states. What could be worse? Side: yes
there are two Pakistan's, a majority peace loving human beings and a minority rogue elite who unfortunately rule the peace loving majority. Religion cannot, cannot be the basis for a nationhood. It would be pertinent to go back to the core of creation of Pakistan by the British while partitioning the sub continent. While religion is cited as the reason, the bitter truth is it is not. It is the same rogue minority, the feudal lords of west Punjab who were worried that they will loose their rogue feudal status in an independent undivided India raised the minority sentiments for demanding a separate nation. There is nothing called a Pakistani, he is either a Punjabi, a Sindhi, a Belushi or a pakthoon. The only answer for the woes of the silent majority is to break the boundaries that has separated them from their undivided motherland and reunification under a well defined Federal set-up with the center restricting itself to defense, foreign affairs, monetary policies while the Federal states within state will have all the powers to define their progress. This would release the enormous amount of money squandered by both the nations towards defense into more developmental areas and would also delink Pakistan from mechanizations of the western world. A unified nation would be the most powerful nation in the world. Different religions and cultures co-existed for thousands of years but for the divide and rule policies of the colonizing powers. Side: yes
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Its not just rogue state .It is country no one has seen in there wilderst dreams.It has a working democracy with politicians elected on how much they lie and get bakshis from other countries. its the country who has no control over the military and the govt is controlled by military and Isi and fundamentallist and jehadi schools. country with huge jehadi facotories for world export of terrorism. Country whose philosophy believes kafirs and elimination of them. Country who sells nuclear secrets to any body for money like iran /korea/and alqiada and who ever pays them.Country which is key ally in elimanting the peace and harmony of the world .Can u call such country as just rogue state its terrible . it should be called Terraristan Side: No
Claiming sovereignty does not mean that Pakistan has become a rogue state. From certain quarters this issue was raised in the past also like in 2004 and 2010. Several lists were prepared putting Pakistan in the negative list. Pakistan is not a rogue state. It is a responsible nuclear state. The deviation from the policies of other countries in respect of south asian region does not create a right for any one to call Pakistan a rogue state. Pakistan as an independent country has every right to make its foreign policy and make rules for safety and security of its assets and nation. There are people having wishful thinking that by declaring Pakistan a rogue State they could get the strategic assets under their control. Some people want domination of India in the region. Keeping in view the fact that the Indian domination in the region is immpossible they are creating grounds to malign the Pakistan Forces, demoralize them and trying to form an opinion in the world by disseminating false averments. A state cannot be declared a Rogue on the basis of propaganda, there must be some material evidence in proof of allegations. I am sure there is none. Side: No
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