No, you need math to do physics. Actually you need math for just about everything. ;)
52 days ago | Tagged As: No
I'm pretty sure physics is merely a derivation of higher level math, essentially applied calculus. And then you can continue from there: chemistry is applied physics, biology is applied chemistry, psychology is applied biology, etc. The link below will explain. <3XKCD
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52 days ago | Tagged As: No
Physics uses math to quantify observations and to make predictions. Physics, and other sciences exist independent of the mathematics that they apply for these purposes. There are areas where various scientific disciplines interact and overlap, particle physics has a lot in common with chemistry and physics of particles contributes to our understanding of chemistry but that doesn't mean that chemistry is a sub field of physics. Biology certainly isn't a sub field of chemistry, bio-chemistry is the field where principles of chemistry are applied to life but a great deal of biology is observation of behavior which has little to do with chemistry in application. We're not dealing with digital systems here, abstraction and inheritance don't really apply.
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
"Physics uses math to quantify observations and to make predictions." Doesn't that mean that physics is dependent on math?
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
No it doesn't. You can still talk about velocities, forces, torques, etc without discussing the mathematical representations of these things. Math is a tool that is used to give a common and concrete basis of comparison.
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
But, seriously, how useful is physics without math? Not very useful at all...
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
How do you use math without physics? It seems to me that math on its own is quite useless to the world. You have to apply mathematics with, say, PHYSICS, for it to hold any value what-so-ever. (;
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Well there's arithmetic, or course. There's also simple graphs and rates of change, which can be used to model population growth and decline. Living life without any background in physics is not very difficult (assuming it has no effect on getting into college). Having no background in math is going to make life very difficult: how can you control your finances, bills, tips, etc?
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
But the debate isn't titled "Which is a better subject for someone with the IQ of a 10 year old who can only learn one of these two subjects before being thrown out into the world?" The debate merely asks "Is Physics a better subject than Maths?" So assuming ceteris perabis, Physics is a much better subject than Maths.
50 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Well in all honesty, this debate is purely about opinion, not fact. My opinion is that math is better. And I believe that because I enjoy it more and I realized that when I did physics, I also did math. Your opinion is that physics is more interesting. No right or wrong. ;) On a side note, do you know who the hell has been downvoting arguments in this debate? Pretty lousy.... :|
49 days ago | Tagged As: No
Oh, and I think the average citizen can live their entire life without knowing that: P(o) = Pe^(rt) or that: P(0) = P(1+r/n)^(nt). I mean, those are just things that an average person would never need to know in life, thus invalidating your statement about maths being more useful in day-to-day life. (;
50 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Certain topics in Mathematics are applied in physics. Events and models that exist in nature (forces between two massive bodies) are beyond curricular study in mathematics; therefore a new mathematical scheme (equations) had to be devised by physicists to describe physical events symbolically. That is what a Doctorate of Philosophy degree provides (at least it should), a synthesis and a quest for the inter-relationship of all knowledge in multiple disciplines within similiar domains. So the original claim as to whether 'physics is a better subject than math' is a matter of personal taste and experience.
49 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Why do people pluralize math with an "s"? There's no "s". It's like fish or deer. There's only an "s" if its possessive. e.g. One math. Much math. All math. Physics is math's bitch.
52 days ago | Tagged As: No
HEY, i didn't intend to pluralize anything! Maths- it is a short form for Mathematics. First math and last letter s.
52 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Hey, that gives physics a point! No fair! Lol but still I think you're gettin criticism from some of those physics guys too
48 days ago | Tagged As: No
"Maths" is traditionally a British term. In the US, we say it correctly. :)
well i that case i am an indian.. since British used to rule india may be we got some of their stuff. any way, thanks for correction
50 days ago | Tagged As: yes
OOHHH epic win lol nice, how long did it take to find THAT?
46 days ago | Tagged As: No
Well I find that math should end with an "s" because there are many MANY branches of mathematics. So for the same reason that Physics ends with an "s", math should too. Actually, I think I'm going to start saying "maths" instead of "math". It just makes more sense. And, just to clarify, Maths is Physics' bitch. See? You put the apostrophe at the end of a word that ends with an "s", such as maths.
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
Physics isn't shorthand. Math is an abbreviation of mathematics. When you truncate, you don't typically cutout the middle, but keep the end. You cut off the whole end.
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
I never said Physics was shorthand. All I said was it ends in an "s".... And if someone saw math and didn't know it stood for mathematics (plural), then they would probably think that math is just one concrete thing, which it isn't.
50 days ago | Tagged As: yes
enough of clobbering over a spelling mistake and concentrate on the debate!
47 days ago | Tagged As: No
Physics has too much trig in it, and trig is just grown-up geometry which is just PRETENDING to be math. (I am mostly kidding, I just never liked trig or geometry.)
51 days ago | Tagged As: No
Of course not, it's just plain obvious. Math comes into play in today's life way more than physics and plus physics is absolutely nothing without math!
48 days ago | Tagged As: No
physics is more interesting. After all, if physics was not there then it would be difficult to explain the natural phenomenon. And to say, Physics is like an improved and advanced form of Maths. This means that Physics is more interesting and convincing than maths in the type of explanations it provide for every natural phenomenon
46 days ago | Tagged As: yes
From the point of purity of science, mathematics is rigorous and exact. Mathematical proof is total and most scientific in that it the truth that it explains can be arrived at by any one, anywhere and at any time. Physics uses a lot of mathematics and indeed the language of advanced physics is mathematics. However, in some cases, physics resorts to iteration and approximations to explain the observations, which therefore is considered as not as rigorous as mathematics. For example, in physics you derive the period of oscillation of a simple pendulum and you "assume that the string has no mass ". In maths you denote the ratio of circumference to diameter of a circle as pi and work with it, whereas you use the figure 3.143 in physics. Mathematics, trains the mind to be more rigorous and uncompromising since it demands absolute accuracy
20 days ago | Tagged As: No
Many aspects of physics involve math. Not to mention that math has a wide range of smaller subjects while physics is a part of the subject of science.
19 days ago | Tagged As: No
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Well I think that although Physics involves math, it is not math. Physics is the study of the physical environment, so, basically, how things work. Math, on its own, holds no value what-so-ever. Applied mathematics is the only useful form of mathematics. All other math sucks. Physics is just freaking awesome in its entirety; I mean, we did create Dr. Manhatten with physics. (;
51 days ago | Tagged As: yes
You kind of get bored sitting down doing math. but if you do active thing you can't be stressed and you do not get bored
50 days ago | Tagged As: yes
I don't know if it's better or not, but to me it's more interesting. It also gives more insight into the nature of the universe than math alone.
47 days ago | Tagged As: yes
maths is the mother of physics. then the credit goes to the mother for getting a child that entertains every one!
47 days ago | Tagged As: yes
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