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Pornography of everykind and anykind is dangerous and is degrading our society.
It desensatises us and portays both men and women in all the wrong ways thought possible.
People might say it is a healthy fetish but when you see porn for too long, it will cause mental damage to your brain and your thoughts and behaviour will get corrupted by them.
It's like getting influenced by a bunch of bad friends who offer ciggerates to you.
But watching porn is far more worse.
If watching porn is not enough, lustful men or even women might molest or even rape.
Porn can turn a good person to a bad person.
So think again when you feel compelled to watch them.
259 days ago | Tagged As: Yes, it ruins our society
The problem I see with porn is that it desensitizes us towards what is beautiful or normal or realistic! What is beautiful is the human body, not a ton of plastic and silicone.
Soap operas could distort one's idea of what is beautiful or normal or realistic -- so could Disney movies. Does that mean they are degrading to society?
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Actually, yes. Ever read Fahrenheit 451? What you said is close to what Ray Bradbury is getting at. No, Fahrenheit 451 is not about censorship, its about the degrading effects of TV. He tears into soap operas in the novel, and I agree with him. Porn and soaps are similar in that they are usually not intellectually stimulating. Like a soap opera, a little porn now and then isn't bad, but don't let it consume you.
although im addicted to it i do believe it damages the perception we have of women Although i dont subscribe to the taboo feelings some have about Sex i do realize the damage seeing women as sex tools can be hurtful.the porn has become more degrading and lower nature thruout the years so yeah id rather make homemeade porn and watch it on my own time ..the best way to indulge
I've watched pornography for many years and it has never changed my perception of women. And I know plenty of people who watch pornography and are extremely respectful of women.
For some people, this negative change in perception may happen. But those are people who have become obsessed with pornography.
It doesn't matter what you obsess about - food, driving fast, going to the gym - obsessions are negative. Does that mean that all of these things are degrading our society?
Taken as a whole, pornography is actual helpful to society. It helps eliminate dangerous social taboo's that have hurt so many peoples lives. Just watch the movie Kinsey to see the damage a sexually taboo'd society can have on an individual.
I would get SO much more work done if it were not for porn, and I would learn so much more. I got addicted to it, and now it wastes a few hours of my day everyday.
People who like porn [as opposed to healthy relationships with real women etc.,are inadequate in themselves and in their ability to have overall creative relationships ,fullstop.Their animal ,lower selve is overactivated and will result in the long run in them losing their status as a human being .What goes around come around,so you will become a victim of sexual exploitation in some ghastly place,the cycle will continue to descend,until you become no more than an abused animal some where and it will not stop.In other words hell.Christians think that hell exists somewhere else ,but no it exists right here on this earth,and sexual perversion,ie.no relationship or exploitation ,or same sex ,sex, will all lead to hell on this lovely planet.They are all from the 8 th house ,the house of death .There are other heaven and hells, but it all begins here sometimes not far away ,sometimes on another continent,but you can never escape the laws of karma. And yes there is evil,and there is good.Some people would have you believe you can avoid the consequences of you actions, but no you never can .The greatest negative karma comes from seriously crude sex.The churches in recent times have been too strict about divorce and condoms etc but you cannot emphasis enough the cruder side of porno.as bad
4) are SUBHUMAN: "they lose their status as human beings."
These extremely hostile, hateful judgements are based on mean-spirited prejudice, not fact. On the contrary studies have shown that most of the men and women (yes, women!) who enjoy porn value intimate relationships very highly. Many couples, for instance, report that that they enjoy watching porn together and believe that it stimulates and enhances their sex lives.
Truthfinder warns, nevertheless, that such people who will be punished by the Law of Karma. They will experience Hell on earth: "sexual exploitation" in some "ghastly place"... because "The greatest negative karma comes from seriously crude sex."
Seriously? If there IS such a peculiar thing as "negative Karma", created by our sins - Does anyone agree that maybe, mass-murder, rape, torture and other violent crimes would create a tad more bad Karma than... a bit of hot, consensual, kinky sex? Or even, watching a porno?
Be that as it may, it's clearly hot sex that Truthfinder hates and reviles -- hence the hostility to porn.
49 days ago | Tagged As: No, it is a healthy fetish
Pornography's sole purpose is to give the viewer lustful feelings toward the people on the screen or page. Exodus 20:14 says thou shalt not commit adultery and Matthew 5:28 says that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Therefore, pornography is sinful and degrading to society.
116 days ago | Tagged As: Yes, it ruins our society
If you removed the financial dimension from the porn industry, would there be any willing porn stars? For instance, say 100% of a porn star's earnings went to the government or even a charity. Would young women be so eager to have sex with strangers on film?
If you removed the financial dimension from the burger-flipping industry, would there be any willing burger flippers? For instance, say 100% of a burger flipper's earnings went to the government or even a charity. Would people be so eager to spend their time flipping burgers?
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No, of course not. They're doing it for the money. That doesn't address the question of whether or not porn is degrading to society.
Of course pornography is degrading to our society. What is pornography other than our body's sexual desire and our lack of control over it. All that it does is teach us to treat people as sex objects, not as equal human beings worthy of our respect. It essentially turns us into animals, which is the exact opposite of what human society is, the distancing of ourselves from animal like behavior.
Agreed, our two strongest bodily desires are sex and food, the two most vital for life to be sustainable. They are both extremely strong and both wonderful things, but we must not as moral human beings allow ourselves to be controlled by these desires.
When one is controlled by food, and their very life revolves around it in an unhealthy way, what happens. Their life beings to break down. Their health deteriorates, they become inactive and sedate, and their relationships begin to go south. The same is true when your sexual desire goes out of control.
Also, food is not another human being. All the women, and men, featured in pornography are real human beings, who have real feelings, and live real lives. Every time we look at pornography, we are dishonoring their worth as people and treating them as less than they are, and quite frankly, it's disgusting.
That may be true if you believe sex is something that shouldn't be celebrated. If one views sex as something dirty or somehow harmful then the mentality is understandable, however the reasoning is absent. People engaging in sexual activity is a beautiful thing. There's no reason to demonize people for doing something natural they enjoy. Apparantly, these people don't equate "honor" with the same things you do. Having sex doesn't make anyone less or more, nor does their choosing to allow others to watch. Judge people by their own standards, not yours.
I do not at all believe that sex is a dirty thing. It is one of the most wonderful things that two people can experience together. However, when people engage in it outside of the commitment of marriage, all that results is pain and hardships.
Additionally, you should judge people at all, whether by your standards or theirs. That is not the issue here. In our free country, everyone has the right to whatever they want to, within the confines of the law. My argument is that pornography degrades our society.
You have yet to point out exactly how pornography actually benefits our society, which is the issue of this debate.
Wait...wait wait....no offense, but this is a very ignorant, judgemental statement to make.
However, when people engage in it outside of the commitment of marriage, all that results is pain and hardships.
What do you have to back up this claim? Wouldn't that be a complete act of a person who had no "control" of their sexual desires...if they couldn't have a healthy sex life without marriage and have it result in pain and hardships? Furthermore, don't most marriages end in divorce? Seems marriages hold a bit more "pain and hardship" then casual sex. People create pain and hardships (often because of their own insecurities) no matter what...whether you are married or not. Sex is about communication and understanding...it has NOTHING to do with your status of being single or married. That is religious brainwashing.
I think the problem with sex is that people are not educated about it and often enter sexual encounters without real knowledge or maturity to handle some of the responsibilities that must come along with having sex. (i.e. dealing with ignorant social sterotypes of sex, understanding how one will emotionally react, risk of impregnation, risk of disease) and those people will POSSIBLY have hardships. But this idea that sex is something that needs to be controlled is narcissistic...why should anyone adhere to one person's idea of what sex is SUPPOSSED to be? Of course there are certain exceptions to this (child molestation, rape, etc.) But if sex is consentual and safe...what is the problem? It doesn't bother me in anyway that someone wants to watch someone else have sex, or wrap themselves in leather, or be whipped, or rub feces all over themselves or engage in pre-marital sex. It really doesn't effect me. If one doesn't like a certain fetish...They won't participate in it. They will look for someone who shares a common sexual preference as they do.
By definition, pornography has no redeeming social value. It portrays sex in a degrading way.
There are videos out there that no one ought to see, and only someone who is sick would produce to begin with. A justice of the Supreme Court has said something like, "I can't tell you what pornography is, but I know it when I see it.' Viiewing actual pornography, reasonable people are going to say, "This is disgusting; it is detrimental to our society."
Would you be kind enough to qualify exactly what constitutes "redeeming social value"? Some show sex in the degrading manner you mentioned, but by far it's just videos of people fucking. Nothing degrading about that, people do it all the time for free. Or are you ignorant of xtube?
And could you also show any way people being disgusted by watching others have sex is somehow equivalent to harm?
*edit: fuck, this is supposed to be "Opposed". Hopefullly there'll be functionality to change that soon..
There is a web site that advocates racial hatred. It justifies rape of a 13-year-old, saying "she really want it"; it justifies a multiple murder, saying, "it's what they deserve because of their race and gender".
If anyone viewing this site is even slightly influenced do some of the things advocated here, tangible harm would result. Beyond that, I think advocating sexual violence and racial hatred is harmful to society, adding fuel to an already simmering fire.
An advocate said, "it's humor". To paraphrase the justice (again) "I can't say what pornography is, but I know it when I see it." This material isn't funny. They wouldn't think it was funny either if the racial references were switched.
If there is nothing degrading about a video, then I personally wouldn't consider it pornography. As you say, "people do it all the time." No harm, no foul.
That doesn't mean there isn't some real crap out there. If you disagree then you will be comforted to know that I have absolutely no authority to ban anything --just expressing my opinion.
Okay, but you just left the whole debate and went off on some violent tangent. Inciting violence is not covered under free speech in this country, so that's a completely different issue.
The nation's most talented people are at risk of shooting their load all over their key board and potentially electrocuting themselves. We need to save them from themselves.
Pornography is created by us and therefore is a reflection of our sexual desires. It is a creative expression of our sexuality, which is one of our most basic drives. Almost all of us are sexual beings with sexual fantasies, aren't they just pornography of the mind's eye? Are our sexual fantasies degrading to society? I think only the most self loathing would say they were. However, if we try and record them and share them, all of a sudden we are causing the world harm? When you think of it this way, it's a hard jump to make.
When people object to pornography, what they are really objecting towards someone else's differing taste in pornography. Otherwise they would have to admit their own fantasies are somehow degrading and negative.
It seems that you claim that what is natural should be given freedom to be expressed, correct? Please notice that many people often have the desire to attack, rape, or kill others as well; ought we to be given freedom to do this as well? Of course not. This is society, we give up our natural state of existing solely for ourselves and adopt laws and reason. That is what separates us from cavemen, and removing this distinction degrades our civilization back to the state where we could not control our desires, and did not have society because of this lack of control.
When I object to pornography it is not objecting to other's "tastes", as you put it. I object to the fact that it is our instincts taking over, which naturally causes a breakdown in society.
Pornography will be here as long as sex is here. Perhaps when we stop teaching everyone to be ashamed of their sexuality this will be resolved, but not any time soon I suppose. The demonizing of sexuality has a history almost as old as writing itself. Every strand of DNA in you is programed to make you a sexual creature as a biological imperative. Couple this with the fact that having sex is, in consensus opinion of the weight of human writing, the absolute measure and scale for pleasurable experience in the human condition. It is then easy to conclude why we do it and why we want to revel in it. It feels damn good ,and it is a part of who and what we are. It is only in exception to the norm when sex becomes something cruel or evil and that is why we treat such crimes with extreme intensity, but pornography(which is an arguable term in itself) cannot and does not degrade society or anything else... unless they want to be.
Your argument makes no comment on pornography's effect on society, merely that sex is natural. We all agree that it is natural and also essential, but pornography is not sex, and we cannot get that confused.
Pornography is an essential part of modern human existence.
Almost every human has sexual desires, those desires come in different shapes and sizes but are essentially the same....Monkey see ,... Monkey want to have sex with.
In the animal kingdom this is not a problem, but if you are human, you might find yourself in handcuffs(and not the kinky kind)for exercising your animal desires.
So what is a person who has a sexual desire, but no one to exercise it with to do?? They could use their imagination for sexual release because there is no difference, as far as your brain is concerned, between a naked person in front of you in real life, and a naked person in your fantasies.
However for some people that can be a lot of work and too time consuming.
But fear not ...Pornography... is the answer,.. it is available in many formats for your viewing pleasure to help release those natural human desires.
By arguing against pornography, you are essentially arguing against sex itself and without sex, you wouldn't be here reading this !
And that is where you are wrong. Pornography is not the answer for releasing our sexual desires. It is merely being used as an excuse.
You argue that sexuality is natural, and I agree. But, pornography is not natural. Animals do not have pornography. If you argue that it sexuality is natural, and thus pornography is as well, you must back up your claims by proving pornography is natural, which it is not.
Either way, is releasing human desires beneficial to our society? As far as I know, your definition would classify rape as a natural desire. Is that not degrading society? Or do you think that rape is a good thing? How about murder? Or theft?
Pornography, Democracy and Freedom of speech are very good friends. Just take a look at the countries where pornography is a crime, you will find dictatorships, totalitarisms and theocratic goverments. In that kind of places you will see a lot of huge crimes against the humans rights. So pornography is not degrading the society, repression is degrading the society.
The purpose of pornography is to excite the viewer which is why the different genres of pornography (IE:fetish, group, racial, bestiality,etc) exist. Depictions of sexual activities have existed since the beginning of civilization and wasn't considered obscene until the Victorian era. It's not new, so why is it an issue...again.
This is a tricky subject, to me, I feel that pornography is a healthy fetish (watching others) in which all parties are consenting. Furthermore, it is closely regulated (to prevent the spread of disease) which would be another issue. To me, it is just sex, in an unconvential manner. It is difficult for me to see any problems with it...however...I am also a male. There are arguments out there (aside from religious) that pornography is degrading to women and the industry is as patriarchal in intent as anything else in the world. At the same time, there is an argument (by some feminists)that pornography actually empowers women.
It takes an arrogant feminist to state what is and isn't degrading to a woman, and whether they should have the self-determination to make decisions on their own.
Question: Would you say the same thing about an African American deciding when using the "N" word is degrading?
I mean...isn't that the whole point of being a feminist in the first place? To make a social commentary on what is degrading or unfair for women living in a patriarchal society. Just like civil rights activists will monitor what may be degrading toward minorities.
Feminism was originally about female emancipation. To get equal rights for woman. Woman and men can both decide to do porn if that's what floats their boat. It's definitively more degrading to tell a woman that she can't or shouldn't do certain jobs, and that their freewill is less important than a feminist agenda.
Feminists try to change people's perception of women, not what people do. They don't say "you can't make porn, girls, even if you love your job", they're saying the objectification of women is a social problem that we need to address. Because, surprise, most women in the sex industry don't want to be there, and social attitudes to the sexualisation of women mean it's hard for these women to avoid being victimised. I don't necessarily think pornography is in itself degrading, but I think in its current state it allows women to be degraded, and I don't think feminists are obstructing anyone's free will in saying so.
That's the arrogance I was talking about. A) in presuming they know what is socially best for a woman, and B) presuming that most porn workers don't like what they do.
most women in the sex industry don't want to be there
Can you show me any surveys or statistics that give credence to that, specifically porn. I say specifically because sex trade is an umbrella term that includes street whores, whose working conditions are of course unfavourable. Many escorts (male and female) do enjoy their work.
Ok, I see what you are saying...but I still feel like the determination of what is "degrading" to women is a function of determining equal rights. For example, A woman, who does the same work as a man and yet does not share in equal pay...isn't that degrading to women? Though, I can see the fine line that can be crossed in which you point out.
If there's nothing wrong with it, it isn't pornography. It is art or it is educational material, or it is something else. The word "pornography" means there is something wrong with it.
That's because originally it was used as a pejorative. People no longer associate pornography with things inherently bad. They associate it with images of nudity and sex for the purpose of arousing the individual watching it. Nothing wrong with that at all.
no, only because it is a commonly accepted form of entertainment. everyone watches porn (except sean hannity).
it makes us less innocent, but is that really degrading? i will admit though that it does turn our interest into stranger and more perverted things, but that just makes life more fun (c'mon people, we all love trolling friends with goatse).
Lemme start by saying, I think i would be more concerned with feminist ideas on pornography than religious. The religious debate is constantly fought on this site and often end in the same results. For someone to say that god says "pornography is an aborration" is meaningless to me and many others because we don't believe in a god. However, I have found there tends to be a two sided debate for feminists on this topic...Some being for and others being against...this is what I would like to be the focus of this debate.
Obviously, I know that...I thought the feminist ideas on pornography would be a more interesting topic because there are 2 schools of thought on pornography in the feminist community. One being that it degrades women, the other that it empowers women.
Maybe it's not the PORN that is corrupting man, but the man corrupting porn. What I mean is, there aught to be a threshold, where they know that something is unhealthy... at that point, if they were looking out for their best interest and the interests of others, s/he would do something about it.
Some people cannot control themselves, and that is what I think is wrong with pornography.
I was simply saying, I don't think pornography is bad, but bad people get ahold of porn and do with it what makes the pornography bad.
Sex is natural, we see dogs do it. Recording sex isn't bad, we all have sex, we know what it's like, if people want to show others "Look at this, I am having sex", so be it... If they are having sex with a horse though, that is bad, and it wasn't the porn that corrupted them into believing that sex with a horse is ok... everyone knows that sex with a horse is unnatural... why then record it and sell it? It wasn't the recording of sex that lead porn to bestiality, it was the people that brought porn to that. Same with chronic masturbation, depreciation of sex, etc. The people that should have been controlling themselves, weren't.
It's like a reckless driver. It's not the car at fault, it's the driver.
"if people want to show others "Look at this, I am having sex""
But they don't. They need to pay the bills, need to have all the trinkets they're told they need by the media as per the capitalist ideal and have other people say Look at this, they're having sex".
Pornography is a business that commoditizes sex. Good or bad, it's happening and it's detrimental to society as it currently stands (it will change, no doubt).
What do you think about soft-core porn? Is that degrading society?
What about 2girls1cup?
There are things that are acceptable as art, and then there are things that are... not. F'ing horses, eating sht, tearing your sshole open to post on the internet... those have nothing to do with love... which sex is usually associated with.
If you're watching soft-core, you can see a sort of passion... kissing and so on, foreplay, it's all there and acted out... sex is there as well, though not as graphic.
The usual run-of-the-mill porn though, lacks the passion, and it harder to tell, mainly because the people screwing are not good actors. It's like a Chick-Flick vs. Action film. One, there are complex social problems, the other is just explosions and what not.
Hardcore porn and everything after that is there for the people who have grown tired of the rest of the porn, and out of their lack of control for their sexual appetite and impulse, have moved onto something that would actually arouse them.
Just like a cigarette, if you control yourself, you won't need another one... if you cannot, maybe you need something different all together... enter the gateway drug.
My point still stands. The problems that we have in society stem from mass lack of self control.
i think pornography is safe and i think that you dont need to be 18 at least 10 because who actually w8s they just go and enter and jacking off is perfectly fine man