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Yup Burn in hell ye heathen!
Debate Score:36
Arguments:34
Total Votes:53
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Is Religion The Single Most Damaging Mental Illness In The World?

Yup

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Burn in hell ye heathen!

Side Score: 18
2 points

One simple reason.

Religion is the only mental illness I know about which is contagious.

Side: Yup
2 points

Religion is a mental disorder, or more accurately superstition is a mental disorder and religion is institutionalized schizophrenia. All of human society is based on the disease of superstition, they put their faith in social constructs, politics and the monetary system are a religion and it's literally superstitious to believe that money has value or the state has authority. Humans are prone to believe that made up fairy tails and social constructs are valid because the average human is entirely centered in subjective thought. People are not taught the methodology of reason and attacked constantly by an onslaught of horse bull feces from the layers of stupidity which have been culturally ingrained over the ages and so they believe the conceptual spew of intestinal discharge being ejected into their brain by society is the truth

Side: Yup
1 point

Religion can be a damaging mental illness, it can also be a life saving mental illness. I'm not against a person using religion for support. I'm not against the good religions do, and they often do good.

I, myself, do not believe, so I am kind of on my own, along with other non-believers, That's okay by me. If I were a Christian I would have to believe that what is happening in Houston and elsewhere is an "act of God". Whoever dies or suffers is singled out, by GOD, to suffer or die. If there is a small "miracle" here and there, it was GOD's love. Okay, that's exactly why I am NOT a Christian .. or Jew, or Muslim. I refuse to "worship" a cruel "god" that does not treat his "creations", for the most part, with kindness. "HE", according to the people who (sort of), speak for him, has "strange ways" that cause suffering, disease, death, and allows suffering, homosexuality, and cruelty to go on without HIS interference. Love to me is the total opposite! Maybe I have a mental disease because I can't worship a "god" as cruel as God OR Allah (same guy, apparently). I will go, wherever, when I die. I will go there with the conviction that I stood up FOR my convictions ... not some damaged mental illness that causes WAR and suffering in this world! YUP!

Side: Yup
Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

Religion can be a damaging mental illness, it can also be a life saving mental illness.

The same can be said of a suicidal man who suddenly develops schizophrenia and believes Elvis is talking to him. Should we therefore encourage schizophrenia?

I'm not against the good religions do, and they often do good.

False. People choose whether or not to do good. Religion has nothing to do with it. Besides which, if someone decides to help another only to save himself from the fiery pits of hell, then is that even "good" in the first place? It sounds more like a prison of fear to me. Furthermore, if that prison of fear is a catalyst for good then it is also a catalyst for evil, since the main three monotheistic religions contain just as much -- if not more -- evil than good.

I, myself, do not believe, so I am kind of on my own, along with other non-believers

So why on Earth would you defend the mass indoctrination of children into a mental illness?

Whoever dies or suffers is singled out, by GOD, to suffer or die.

Which would again prove that a person motivated by religion is not good, since good people suffer and die every day.

Side: Burn in hell ye heathen!
AlofRI(1832) Clarified
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Your first point is too ridiculous to answer IMO.

The second is IYO, and I agree with your last line, at least.

The third ... I DO NOT "defend the mass indoctrination", I defend the RIGHT, allowed by our Constitution, to that choice.

Fourth: I agree that good people suffer and die every day. That does NOT make a person "not good". Non religious people die and suffer every day also. You seem to have a fixation to object to any of my opinions. Enjoy, small things amuse small minds.

Side: Yup
1 point

I was about to make a joke that religion isn't nearly as disturbing or damaging as Bronyism, but then I looked it up before I posted and low and behold Bronyism is actually classified as a religion by some people. Well, whadayaknow? So heck yes.

Side: Yup
Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

I was about to make a joke that religion isn't nearly as disturbing or damaging as Bronyism, but then I looked it up before I posted and low and behold Bronyism is actually classified as a religion by some people. Well, whadayaknow? So heck yes.

I think it was Arthur C Clarke who once said, "Any technology sufficiently more advanced than our own is indistinguishable from magic." With that in mind, a study was done on some of the British colony islands a while back, which for the last two hundred years have worshipped a British sailor who once arrived with canned goods.

Side: Burn in hell ye heathen!
Quantumhead(850) Clarified
1 point

Sorry. I hit the dispute button by accident. Force of habit.

Side: Yup
1 point

It is difficult to understand how any sane person could believe the hocus pocus.

Side: Yup
1 point

I think that the only time religion is useful is when an insane person uses it as a crutch in order to avoid acting on their deranged impulses.

Other than that I have no use for it.

Side: Yup
-1 points

Then why it is the Leftist support the Religion of Islam ? Any attacks on that religion who is the first one to come to their defense that would be the Left ! With that said do you on the Left view Muslims as having a Damaging Mental Illness ?

Side: Yup
AlofRI(1832) Clarified
1 point

I don't know. I don't support the religion of Islam. I don't support the religion of Christianity either. I DO support the American Constitution that does not support EITHER, but allows the following of BOTH.

In answer to your question, I view both religions as "damaging" to the mentality, but, BOTH can also give those needing mental support a lift. That is WHY the Constitution allows BOTH (and others), if needed. We would not have a democracy if the founding fathers limited the freedoms, religious or other, and accepted ONLY certain people with certain followings. Iran, Iraq allow only one religion. I don't want an America that only allows one religion. Having only one mental illness is much worse than having a choice. ;-)

Side: Yup
Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

Then why it is the Leftist support the Religion of Islam ?

I don't defend it when it is attacked by atheists or by agnostics. I only defend it when it is being attacked by equally raging mad Bible Belt bigots such as yourself, who believe equally stupid things, and who have no problem with religion -- provided it is their own.

Side: Burn in hell ye heathen!
outlaw60(8861) Clarified
1 point

So you defend a religion that you view as a Damaging Mental Illness ! At least you cleared that up !

Side: Yup
2 points

No not at all the most damaging Mental Illness is a Leftist mentality ! That is shown worldwide and you expose it well TantrumHead !

Side: Burn in hell ye heathen!
Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

No not at all the most damaging Mental Illness is a Leftist mentality !

Shut up, moron. All you do all day is make personal attacks and think up rhetorical questions based on false premises.

Side: Yup
outlaw60(8861) Clarified
2 points

Only morons would support Brain Damaged Muslims and you sign up as a moron and brain damaged !

Side: Yup
julianahillg(11) Clarified
1 point

I identify as a "leftist" and I do not consider religion to be a mental illness. However, I believe everyone has the right to their own beliefs. This all being said, I think you're missing the point of this debate. From your argument it has become clear that you are denying the existence of mental illnesses. Please clarify your point, because as of now, you don't have one.

Side: Yup
1 point

I have a hard time deciding on this one because religions are all so different, and they tend to change so much over time. Moreover, they are always a mixed bag of benefits and detriments.

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Obviously, religion is very damaging when it is directed by sociopathic people or unscrupulous demagogues. What tends to be even more damaging are the people (leaders and followers alike) with good intentions and poor critical thinking skills. Witness the Crusades, the Inquisition, the violence during the Protestant Reformation, Jihadi movements, Muslim sectarian violence, the sectarian turmoil in 1940's India, Buddhist violence in Myanmar, etc.

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On the other hand, religion in general fulfills some very important cultural functions.

1 - It helps to create communities and provide a framework for social networks, often joining people who otherwise travel in separate spheres.

2 - It acts as a repository, distributer, and enforcement mechanism of useful moral rules and practices.

3 - It provides comfort, explanation, and guidance during stressful life events, and helps people cope with psychological trauma resulting from all manner of misfortune.

4 - It answers questions about "ultimate reality" Chief among these questions are those having to do with death, the nature of being and selfhood, and the purpose of life (both general and personal).

5 - It provides a cosmology. This serves as a foundation and organizing principle for learning, social structure, and often the direction for individual and group endeavors.

6 - Additionally, religious beliefs and institutions are historically the greatest drivers of art, architectural development, and all manner of creative endeavor.

On balance, I tend to think that religion is problematic, but not a mental illness. Freud said the cutoff for mental health is "can you work and can you love?" Simply by not intrinsically preventing work or love (and sometimes encouraging them) religion is not a mental illness.

Side: Burn in hell ye heathen!

Wht a shock, the site bigot is at it again.

This is the perfect example of the so called openminded, tolerant, inclusive Left.

Keep talking, you are the best evidence of everything the Right says about the Left.

Side: Burn in hell ye heathen!
1 point

No, religion is not a mental illness although some of the faithful are nutcases.

Side: Burn in hell ye heathen!
0 points

Nope. Collectivism is. Religion is only one of the many damaging forms of collectivism .

Side: Burn in hell ye heathen!
Quantumhead(850) Disputed
1 point

Nope. Collectivism is. Religion is only one of the many damaging forms of collectivism

I wish you wouldn't write such tripe. You're essentially a nasty, sneering bigot who uses any opportunity possible to have a swipe at the left wing. Only you seem to know what you even mean by collectivism in the first place. Should we refuse to follow science and reason because of the dangers of collective thinking? No, of course not. The danger is obviously not collective thinking, but collectively thinking the wrong things, as is the case with both religion and your Zionist politics.

Side: Yup
Amarel(2350) Disputed
1 point

Only you seem to know what you even mean by collectivism in the first place.

Your failure to understand does not equate to everyone else's failure to understand

Side: Burn in hell ye heathen!