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Taxation is good Taxation is terrible
Debate Score:100
Arguments:57
Total Votes:127
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Is Taxation good or bad in America?

Recently I watched a video called Murray Rothbard: Identity of the state. He said that our government basically uses taxation to "rob us at bayonet point and called it taxation". What do you think?

Taxation is good

Side Score: 52
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Taxation is terrible

Side Score: 48
6 points

If you pay no taxes, than how do you expect to have:

-Health care

-Roads

-Schools

-Public Transport

-Hospitals

-Education

-Olympics and international events

-Infrastructure

-Security

-Retirement

-Fire Service

-And most importantly, Attack Choppers ;)

These were just a few. I realize a lot of tax dollars are wasted in America and the tax burden falls too much on the poor.

Side: Taxation is good
VecVeltro(412) Disputed
3 points

There is absolutely nothing on that list that can't be provided by the free market.

Side: Taxation is terrible
kozlov(1754) Disputed
2 points

I would like to have tax paid for education and health care please.

Side: Taxation is good
Julius(201) Disputed
1 point

"free mar·ket

Noun

An economic system in which prices are determined by unrestricted competition between privately owned businesses.

"

I'd rather have it set up so taxes are being payed, rather than this. With this, you have to deal with corporations.

Side: Taxation is good
Akulakhan(2985) Disputed
1 point

Except you might have to be prepared to bring your Burger King pass to take the southbound interstate...

Side: Taxation is good
1 point

There are:

-Private health care providers

-Private roads

-Private schools

-Private transportation

-Private hospitals

-Private sports and athletic associations

-Private security companies

-Private retirement plans (that you can do on your own or with an organization)

-Private fire departments (most fire departments are still voluntarily operated)

-Private weapon manufactures

Side: Taxation is terrible

this is true i see no reason for the down vote so i will replace it.

Side: Taxation is terrible
-1 points

Uh oh, I made the socialists angry, here come all the down votes...

Side: Taxation is terrible
1 point

"I realize a lot of tax dollars are wasted"...do you realize that the U.S. tax payers have given israel 300 BILLION dollars a year in the past decade....money well spent? and let us never forget the missising 2.3 TRILLION dollars that pentagon so luckily covered up with 9-11. american tax payers are SUCKERS!

What does one TRILLION dollars look like?
Side: Taxation is terrible
3 points

It is good. If there is no taxation, there is no:

-army

-cops

-any kind of public workers

-roads

-hospitals

-schools

-jail for convicts

without taxes, you dont have society. you're like the germanic tribes, just wandering around, looting and pillaging and whoever is hurt dies, whoever want something gets it, there is no order.

Side: Taxation is good
Revolt(201) Disputed
1 point

You are wrong in stating that you can't have society without taxation. Such a society has been conceptualized (stateless society). It's too bad you think that in such a society citizens would be like the old Germanic tribes, or any tribes for that matter. It seems obvious that people would still want insurance against having their rights violated by other citizens and that would pave the way for private rights enforcement agencies, arbitrators, dispute resolution organizations, etc. I'm not saying I want privatized legal systems but to say that law can't exist without government is silly.

Side: Taxation is terrible
Revolt(201) Disputed
1 point

Double post. Moderator please delete.

The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.

Side: Taxation is terrible
2 points

How do you expect your country to be running so smoothly?

How do you expect for health insurance to work efficiently or

get free education till high school??

Side: Taxation is good
1 point

Free education? Ha! You are forced to pay for an education system that has been destroyed by the teacher's union, you call that free?

Side: Taxation is terrible
casper3912(1581) Disputed
1 point

How objectively has teachers union destroyed meaningful public education?

Isn't it far more likly that public education has systematically been weakened by proponents of completely privatized education? if we look at changes in funding, in changing in rules concerning what schools can do, and so on as well as how schools have been funded and the subjects they have been required to teach or not teach, it is pretty obvious that certain fractions of government have been rather systematic in weakening public education.

Side: Taxation is good
2 points

Taxation is good. I am turning away from the anarcho-libertarian philosophy on taxes. Oh Hell, I never agreed in the first place.

Side: Taxation is good

Taxation to some degree or another is necessary for a society so I agree, taxation is good.

Side: Taxation is good
1 point

That is one of the reasons we separated from England so of course it is bad.

Side: Taxation is terrible
markmcd9929(47) Disputed
3 points

no, we were fine with gettting taxed, they were taxing us for no reason, and we got no representation in exchange

Side: Taxation is good
1 point

It's horrible it's not like we need

-Health care

-Roads

-Schools

-Public Transport

-Hospitals

-Education

-Olympics and international events

-Infrastructure

-Security

-Retirement

-Fire Service

Side: Taxation is terrible
kozlov(1754) Disputed
2 points

Congratulations! You've won a free "work until you drop dead" life style. Sick? No problem!! Just empty your life savings!! Want to send you kids to school? Haha, what's school?? Haven't had a meal for days? Just starve to death!

I'm not mocking you, just the system.

Side: Taxation is good
bemagic15(531) Clarified
1 point

You do know that was a joke

Side: Taxation is good

40% of our earnings go to

-corrupt government

-sh-itty public schools

-justice system that does more harm than good

-police that hardly prevent crime

-roads when really we should all be flying our cars through the sky

-cameras to catch us breaking the traffic rules

-free medical for all...oh wait, thats not where our taxes go

-the war machine...thats right. those 1.5 billion dollar stealth bombers arent going to build them selves.

american taxes should be boycotted in every way possible.

Side: Taxation is terrible

Taxation is unfair, however, no Government can exist without money.

Side: Taxation is terrible
-3 points
kozlov(1754) Disputed
1 point

-World War II

-European Campaign

-African Campaign

-Pacific Campaign

These were necessary for the survival of civilization, but as for the rest of the wars you stated, they were a complete waste.

Side: Taxation is good
SovietSpy(709) Disputed
2 points

Well what about your American Revolutionary War? You can't have an U.S without it.

Side: Taxation is terrible
2 points

How was WWII necessary to the survival of civilization?

How was the Revolutionary War a waste?

Side: Taxation is terrible