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Is The Use Of Logical Fallacy Part Of Debate?

If we use Hegel's interpretation of dialectic debate, then he believed debate serves an actual purpose which can be incredibly useful. However, that was on the basis that a thesis would be presented, a logical antithesis would follow, and in turn this would produce another refined thesis, and so on ad infinitum, until the truth was eventually obtained and could be defended against all genuine objections. Hegel did not view debate as a battleground for ideology, where truth would be twisted beyond all recognition in order to justify preconceived biases of the individual. In this instance I argue that debate serves no useful function in society. If one is unprepared to adhere to reason and logic when one argues, then I do not believe that can be considered debate. It's just propaganda.

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Side Score: 5
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Side Score: 4

Sure, but you're taking a risk that you wont be called out on it. And if you know that youre using a fallacy it means to some degree you know your own position is bullshit.

Side: Yes
johnnybad1(1) Disputed
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if you know that youre using a fallacy it means to some degree you know your own position is bullshit.

Exactly. How can it be debate if you know that your own position is bullshit? That just makes it lying.

Side: No
1 point

I would argue against it being propaganda, simply a misuse of the rules of debating, as it were.

Side: No
Funk_Machine(-1) Disputed
1 point

I would argue against it being propaganda, simply a misuse of the rules of debating, as it were.

But if the reality doesn't favour your point of view and you use fallacy to circumvent that fact, that is essentially the definition of propaganda.

Side: Yes
Mint_tea(4641) Clarified
1 point

That's a fair point if you are doing so intentionally. Others may simply be doing it out of stubbornness or ignorance. If there is a true agenda vs. if a person just doesn't want to admit their narrative may be off.

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Progressive Jewel your Commie Media uses propaganda each and every day. So i do wander what message there is to help out the Blue Wave in 2018 ??????????

Side: Yes
Dermot(5736) Banned
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..... If one is unprepared to adhere to reason and logic when one argues, then I do not believe that can be considered debate.

Correct glad you agree you’re uselsss at debating

It's just propaganda........

Yes. you do it a lot don’t you ?

BTW mentioning Hegel in a thread doesn’t make you “clever “ it makes you look desperate as in you’re constantly seeking approval from your betters as in me ......... Sorry buddy you’re still a prize cabbage

Side: No