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 Is a clock attached to time? (13)

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Is a clock attached to time?

A clock tells us the time. 
We are constantly short of time. explain in your words how a clock tells is the correct time if it is not connected to time.
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First I apologies for the mistake. The is should be us, just not enough time I guess. A clock is a speedometer and not a device to tell time. It is telling how fast an object is going and in all cases the object that is measured for its speed is not time. Time is an absolute and is never created or destroyed.

Mint_tea(4641) Clarified
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Could I get some clarification please?

A clock is a speedometer and not a device to tell time.

No, a clock IS a device to tell time. Time doesn't go fast or slow but our perception of it makes it seem as if it does. Time is constant.

It is telling how fast an object is going and in all cases the object that is measured for its speed is not time.

A speedometer does in fact tell us how fast something is going, but the correlation to time is only part of the equation. Essentially how fast something is getting to some place combined with the odometer which measures the distance. Speed, distance, time it takes.

Time is an absolute and is never created or destroyed

Yes, but again part of that is perception. There are days I consider my time at work destroyed. ;D

Could you please clarify your position?

John_C_1812(277) Clarified
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First of all I would like to thank you for participating.

A clock is a speedometer and not a device to tell time.

1. A thermometer is connected to the object it displays the temperature of.

2. Speedometers are connected to an object displaying that objects speed.

3. Altimeters are attached to pressure to display height based from a preset pressure.

4. An electrocardiogram is attached to the body to display a heartbeat.

It is telling how fast an object is going and in all cases the object that is measured for its speed is not time.

By Patent law standards a clock and a speedometer are the same machine. The only difference being the clock has been attached to an engine with cruise control performing a task of perpetual motion engine.

The odometer and speedometer. The clock and calendar. The Calendar is attached to the earths speed via the orbit around the sun. The United States Naval Observatory (USNO) Uses an Electromagnetic wave/signals to fix a speed to as well to the clock.

Time is an absolute and is never created or destroyed.

Destroyed or wasted? For me it is never having enough time. I have always thought it was my fault until one day I tried to figure out where the clock actually is attached to time. In a forest Gump voice, It’s not. What a Gomer Pyle Surprise, Surprise, Surprise, Well Gol-lee. May-be it isn’t me……lol, for once.

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The human understanding of time is based on increments we made up ourselves. Other than the general idea that it moves ahead (instead of backwards or looping back on itself, which could be a whole other scientific discussion) the amount that it moves forward and how we track it in measurement is entirely subjective.

A clock is not "attached" to time, it is merely displaying the passing of increments. It most likely is imperfect and needs occasional adjustments.

A clock is simply a measuring tool of something that exists, namely time. The clock itself is not attached to time, just as a ruler is not attached to a piece of lumber.

John_C_1812(277) Disputed
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This is part of my grievance if time cannot be held against an absolute it is not a reoperation to its distance traveled. The method is biased and can be corrected right? In theory at least.

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Attached? Since everything operates within the dimension of time everything is "attached" to time.

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Why do you need a clock when the sun and the moon can tell you time.

John_C_1812(277) Clarified
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So I know how many minutes I have before sunburn. While also knowing how long the full moon will be out for fishing.

outlaw60(15368) Clarified
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You mean to say you can't tell time between sun up and sun down ?

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You should first be aware that time is an ideal model instead of an entity. We say that time passes quickly because things develop very quickly. A clock can only tell every period of a day, a week, an hour and so on. It can tell 'periods' but not 'time'.

So far.

OK, all thing, all places are part of time, in an area described as dimension of time, Distances traveled by speed. All things record time passing. Unless. Age, deterioration, getting old, and wearing out are only a human presumption of the effect of time. Age not time is or can be the idea impression that friction of gravitation creates on object subject to gravitational wear by relativity.

Time is an ideal model that through the theory of relativity must be proved as an entity to become known relative. Other than simply being in the area of vast space, space that understands all wear as effect for cause, the visible display of aging are, aging, deterioration, getting old, and wearing out. Time is, or Time is not to blame. Gravitation being the next likely cause of effect if time is not.

Time is not proved subject to gravitation and as absolute has not even been created by mankind, nor has it ever been proved to be created by nature. Mankind has not written record of ever destroying time, only vast records of wasting time. While nature has not demonstrated any ability to destroy time as well, sharing the task of only waste time.

A clock is not attached to time it has been connected to the earths speed. The clock is a speedometers and not a mechanism of telling time at all. The purpose of this device is known as fact. To help hide the clocks flaw it has been set in a loop. Is it reasonable grievance to accuse and question the clock is a speedometer presented as a perpetual engine? If a solution to this issue could be provided what dollar value would it hold? What scientific value might it hold?

daver(1771) Clarified
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Nope that's not it at all. Time is not an absolute. Synchronize two atomic clocks on the surface of the Earth. Then put one in orbit around the Earth for an earth week. Return the orbiting clock to the surface and note that it will be measurably behind the clock that remained on the surface of the Earth. Gravity and relative speed between the two atomic clocks will appear to slow time.

John_C_1812(277) Disputed
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Energy, Space, and Time are absolute. Not just time all three. All that two clocks are showing is that synchronizing the atomic clocks does not work to insure perpetual alinement. As gravity is relative the times changed between the two clocks, not time. the clock is not attached to time Again gravitational wear shows an effect on energy. The clock is attached to relativity not a representation of time it is a manufactured perpetual engine which is interrupting friction. The clock doesn’t tell time it tells speed.

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Time is a mental construct created by humans to help us comprehend reality and to understand it better. It doesn't actually exist. What you actually experience is one present moment after another. One moment dies forever and the other takes it's place, that's it.

Again thank you every-one for sharing.

Time is an observation of human intellect. We first noticed the Day and Night.

If time does not exist how do objects share the same moment? Time is absolute it does exist. It simply shares the same place in all space. We as people cannot think time gone, destroyed that is only a waste of time.

Grenache,

I would not say the clock is imperfect the clock is corrupted by relativity. All things are not relative. Energy - Space - Time - all are not relative. The clock is connected to Energy fixing Einstein’s theory and the scientific result that all things are relativity.

I am unsure how to tally these results but it looks like time is not attached to the clock. Or, time is not real at all so cannot be attached to the clock.