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One is needed. One is not needed.
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Is a men's rights movement needed?

There is much debate about the controversial men's rights movement. Some say men are the true oppressed gender, others say men already have every right possible, and yet others are somewhere in between. Where do you stand? Is a men's rights movement something we need, or surplus to requierments?

One is needed.

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One is not needed.

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1 point

There are a number of rights men lack that women enjoy the advantages of.

If you look up your local laws about rape, you will more than likely find that only men can commit it, only women can be victims of it, or quite likely both.

On the subject of laws and genitals, in almost every country on earth, female genital mutilation is rightfully outlawed. In few if any countries is male genital mutilation (more commonly known as circumcision) so much as looked down on.

These are but two among many direct, legal inequalities men face. A movement to change these is direly needed.

Side: One is needed.

You will notice with most things, the Left is made up of complete hypocrites who only see a problem if it fits in their small radical political correct groups.

Feminists are the most defensive insecure dysfunctional haters of men on the planet.

They did what Liberals always do, which is start out with an actual good cause, such as the right to vote, and then never stop their activism until they get special rights just for being a woman at the harm to other's rights.

For example who was harmed by their activism for anything goes abortions? Viable babies are being killed for any reason at any stage because of feminism.

Another example, feminists are now trying to force private businesses to give them free day care, paid leave, all because they are a woman. Men get no such free paid leave when we raise children or have a medical situation.

Feminists reside in the Democrat party because there is not an unborn baby at any stage that they give one ounce of compassion for.

We need no more movements. We need common sense laws that are fair to ALL AMERICANS. No special laws or mention to any special interest groups.

Side: One is needed.
Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
1 point

You realize, other than going off on your rant against abortion, you pretty much agreed with people you've accused of being Left. Correct? You posted on the wrong side of the debate. :D

Side: One is not needed.
FromWithin(8241) Disputed
1 point

You do realize aborton supercedes all other issues and shows a Party for the inhuman animals they are, correct?

You act as if killing innocent babies is just another issue we debate.

Abortion shows the core a person and who they are inside. It speaks to their lack of compassion & tolerance for those who can't speak for themselves.

You call it a rant for people concerned over the inhumanity.

What does that say about you and your party?

Side: One is needed.
Cartman(18192) Disputed
1 point

You are such a fucking coward. Do you actually have an original thought in your fucking head?

Side: One is not needed.
Gypsee(347) Disputed
1 point

Isn't it a bit ideal to expect the law to be blindly fair ? Not everyone is born with the same advantages...

Law gives certain rights to certains groups of people. I don't believe you completly disagree with that.

Side: One is not needed.
Cartman(18192) Disputed
0 points

Ok, so feminism is bad. Why does that mean we need a men's rights movement?

Side: One is not needed.

This is an article about a diehard liberal feminist who admits she's only attracted to overly masculine men.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/pwa/?utm_term=.19c1eeb386fa#https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soloish/wp/2016/09/13/im-a-feminist-whos-attracted-to-manly-men/

Side: One is needed.

Liberals are hypocrites on this issue. They demand "safe spaces" for every group accept? White men. They even protest private sessions for men to talk openly about suicide and depression. This is what mindless liberal animals are in today's world.

https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/

Side: One is needed.

And men are beginning to opt out of marriage in force. Why? The system is bent heavily against them. The woman gets the gold in a divorce, and it just isn't worth it to get married nowadays for a man. Why?

1)Women are suppressing being feminine, which is not attractive to men.

2)He'll lose the kids.

3)He'll pay the alimony.

4)Why bow the cow when you can get the milk for free?

Side: One is needed.

Social justice warriors vs common sense-

https://youtu.be/PDFSo1AMB9U

Side: One is needed.

Reasons men are opting out of life, success, and marriage-

https://youtu.be/Ba5ryPEhp6o

Side: One is needed.
2 points

I'm on the fence, I think I probably need to be on the other side but I also think in terms of how women's right has turned slightly militant with the Feminist movement, it would be better to address the rights of all.

In terms of issues that I know some men have, it is completely horrific that most men feel if they come forward with being a rape victim they are mocked and jeered at. I've actually heard people saying that "Men can't be raped" which is so utterly ...I don't even have a word for it.....I just know I want to smack the speakers. A woman sitting at a park just watching kids isn't met with the suspicions a man is met with if he's at a park just watching kids. Stay at Home Dads are looked down upon as not being "manly"....it's ridiculous.

There are still a lot of things that women are fighting for. I just think we need to focus on rights for all and not separate rights for some.

Side: One is not needed.
JatinNagpal(2678) Clarified
2 points

which is so utterly ...I don't even have a word for it.....I just

Terrible? Idiotic? Thoughtless? Ridiculous? Pathetic?

Side: One is needed.
Mint_tea(4641) Clarified
1 point

GOOD words but I need something stronger to properly portray the anger and frustration I have for such a stupid comment.

Side: One is needed.

I don't think it is needed, as we now know how it ends merely from experience. Some 'masculist' group would turn irrational again.

We should rather educate people better so that they don't rely on idiotic stereotypes, rather than some "fighting" against discrimination by force.

Side: One is not needed.
1 point

That's what I worry about too. I think focusing on educating the masses is better then continuing to separate by creating what would in essence be a "his vs. hers" group.

Side: One is not needed.

Yes, the people must at least understand the implications of what they believe.

There is nothing to gain by fighting discrimination with discrimination in opposite direction. Yet that's what is always happening.

I'd prefer a communist state to one based on irrational stereotypes of distinctions. And I hate communism.

Side: One is not needed.
1 point

Hey, I don't have a problem with any group that thinks it needs a movement. And I'm a man. I can admit there are times men get the shaft.

But it's also because I'm a man that I just want to say freakin man up, guys. Are you really feeling threatened or abused because you're not a woman or a minority? Really? Seriously? Did someone hurt your little feelings? Boo hoo.

If you're a man and you think you're getting a raw deal then just get off your butt and change your life. Your odds of succeeding if you try are vastly better than if you're a woman or minority. Deal with it.

Side: One is not needed.

Yeah, and if civilisation is reset, men have a much higher chance of dominating everything again.

But I find it strange that civilisation had to come at this point.

Side: One is not needed.
1 point

Citation needed. Men have always been readily available for the draft, are expected to do the physically demanding jobs at work for equal pay, and will never get a second date if they don't pay.

Side: One is needed.
Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
1 point

and will never get a second date if they don't pay

Citation needed. Never?

Side: One is not needed.