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It's pathetic I love internet slap fights
Debate Score:55
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Is anyone else as sick of the low level childish name calling as I am?

This site is such a waste of time.  I've been waiting for it to get better but I think it's just continually gotten worse.  Good thing it's on the internet or some of the morons in here would be pulling poo out of their diapers and flinging it across the room at each other.

It's pathetic

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I love internet slap fights

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Lets feed some trolls, it keeps the fire going. Gotta keep this place warm, right? Let the flamers war.

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I'm hoping this is just a phase but it definitely seems like a lot of good debaters are leaving the site because it's become a pissing contest between wannabe trolls and whiners.

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Agreed... It is highly doubtful that it is just a phase, though; we are seeing more and more of this not just on this site but everywhere. As the title of this view states, it is pathetic.

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That's disappointing. That's about all I can say about that, there are some really fun people to debate on here, it's a shame.

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Most of the people on here just through accusations around like their nothing. And than they go and troll the site with all their debates on how x is x account and so on. It is pathetic and ignorant. If all the people who have alts would just leave, this site would be much better. But as time goes on i can only see it getting worst as accounts get banned.

And Andy is just losing money now. I do not see this site going on much longer. the secure feature is now gone. He is already cutting cost. It is only a matter of time before his 300 dollars a month just stops. And this site goes dead.

I am already searching for a new site to go to for when Andy does get tired of the bullshit.

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Yeah I saw him say that earlier on a debate. The sight has been around for a while now and I get the feeling that Andy is kind of letting his baby die so to speak.

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Nomenclature(1294) Clarified
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I'm hoping this is just a phase but it definitely seems like a lot of good debaters are leaving the site because it's become a pissing contest between wannabe trolls and whiners.

It isn't the site itself because I've seen the same thing in too many different places. It's a standard human pattern of behaviour. Good debaters arrive and begin debating. Lesser debaters (or those ideologically opposed to the good debaters) then begin trolling the good debaters out of either hatred or jealousy.

In my experience the people who visit these sites specifically with the intention of trolling are always on the right wing.

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cruzaders(341) Disputed
1 point

please stop it with the right wing left wing: no one cares!

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I have had good debates with those on the right, and I always respect that - but they are few and far between. I've seen leftwing trolls, too, but by and large, the ratios seem to oppose each other. Good moderates are decently common, at least.

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0 points

My personal observation mirrors yours.

And I don't want to make it a right wing/left wing thing. I believe in moderation and indepedence and an open mind, and not stereotyping. But what I've seen after three debate websites is exactly what you say you've seen.

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I totally aggree .

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You, sir, are absolutely correct. The level of discourse on this site has the potential to be thought-provoking, but sadly, it brings out the worst in many.

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1 point

I agree. This is the worst it has ever been. I attempted to have two debates and both times the person immediately resorted to name calling and throwing temper tantrums. I will not mention their names, but I will never comment on any of their posts. I will not get into the sewer with the rats. You will never find a post of mine where I lost my temper or used vulgar language. I am simply better than that. One time I was actually making a compliment and it was taken the wrong way, so I have to be careful knowing the mentality of many on here.

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1 point

It's sad.

But that's why I'm always saying that these sites are just chat rooms and the arguments aren't much different than public graffiti. One person throws up a shocker, someone else tries to cover it with their own, and they just keep writing over each other.

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http://www.debate.org/ has better debating, but I come here for fun.

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Same, the 1v1 long style of DDO debates is so boring.

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Sitar(3682) Disputed
1 point

There is actual debating on their............................................................................................

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1 point

I can feel myself being driven out of here.

I've had a rough year so negativity is the last thing I need and this site is a black hole of negativity.

Not only is it mentally ill, it's mentally corrosive.

I have a heightened awareness of energies and there's a lot of dark energy here. It's unhealthy.

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GoodListener(625) Clarified
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What's my individual energy like? I'm curious how you see my aura.

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Rusticus(1608) Clarified
1 point

I don't see auras and I have no idea what your individual energy is.

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addltd(5108) Clarified
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Dear Rusticus, yes the problems you highlight are pervasive and do cycle. He is the interesting thing...Six years ago when I bought the site, there was real, honest, quality debating. The more effort i poured into the site, the more trolls and spammers came. The more I tried to clean out the trolls and spammers, the more persistent they became and they drove off many of the sites core debaters. Every cycle, more trolls come and fewer true debaters return...banning people doesn't solve the problem. I don't know what will but I am looking for answers!

Any help would be appreciated.

Best regards,

Andy

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Nomenclature(1294) Clarified
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Dear Rusticus, yes the problems you highlight are pervasive and do cycle. He is the interesting thing...Six years ago when I bought the site, there was real, honest, quality debating. The more effort i poured into the site, the more trolls and spammers came. The more I tried to clean out the trolls and spammers, the more persistent they became and they drove off many of the sites core debaters. Every cycle, more trolls come and fewer true debaters return...banning people doesn't solve the problem. I don't know what will but I am looking for answers!

Honestly mate, it isn't just here. I've used countless sites to debate over the years and they all end up the same way. The best suggestion I have is something similar to the system IMDB uses. When users register they are sent a code direct to their mobile phone which they need in order to activate their accounts. It works well to stop the trolls that you ban who then come back via VPN or proxy, because they need a fresh mobile number for each account they open.

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LittleMisfit(1748) Clarified
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It's too much work for you to try to moderate the site yourself, so your best bet is to let users do it themselves by adding a troll filter that allows people to hide or grey out debates and comments by people they tag as trolls, and automatically ban the trolls from all of their debates.

I realize it's going to cost money to program that, so if the site is already losing money it may not be worth it, but if you do want to keep the site going and actually turn a profit, then you're going to have to do something about the trolls. When I first joined this site there were a lot of good debaters. Now it's almost all trolls and preachers.

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There still is real honest quality debating, you just have to search through the crap. Perhaps it's a matter of getting some help, people you can trust to be neutral towards debaters on here and who can remove some of the debates that are created solely to call other debaters out or make personal attacks?

It's impossible to really fight trolls and spammers, so maybe it's just a matter of making them less relevant and allowing people to gray out debates that aren't really debates.

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Why Andy won't ban bronto nomen and fm? Because it's activity and the nice users are lazy

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0 points

nomen

You are really starting to get on my nerves by lumping my name in with those two clowns. I come here to debate and for the most part I am truthful when I do it. You are using an alt account, slagging others off for no reason, and asking for them to get banned. Can you see why I think you're a retard now?

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4 points

In this post alone, you prove your toxicity. You are incapable of not insulting.

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1 point

Can't say I've ever noticed such juvenile conduct on this site of mature and civilized debaters all of whom present their opinions in a reasoned and rational manner.

I must keep a watchful eye out for ''the name calling'' brigade and steer well clear of such ''FILTH''.

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1 point

You see, the point of debates is to fight for your opinion. Debating is just the more respectful version of fighting but some fights are pretty entertaining to read on here. Like the one on this side. It's hilarious and there's no purpose to it, but it's entertaining. Fighting is one of the things that keeps this website from being full of boring, dull arguments.

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This site is such a waste of time. I've been waiting for it to get better but I think it's just continually gotten worse.

Hello R:

Stop waiting.. It's background noise. It AIN'T gonna get better. But, you can't let it chase you away either.. Your voice is needed. You have to filter out the noise. The noise makers are invested in drowning you out.. Don't let them.

excon

Side: I love internet slap fights