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Debate Score:36
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Is communism good or bad?

There are different opinions on this issue. Tell me yours.

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5 points

The idea: Good.

Reality: Bad.

This concept is wonderful in imagination form where everybody is treated equally and there is no unfairness.

However, in reality (eg: China), it doesn't quite work out. It ends up being over-controlled by the government. So it is both good and bad. It is a wonderful idea in concept where everything is fair; but in reality, it will never work because nobody can be equal. It's always competition. :(

341 days ago | Side: Good
3 points

Humanity just needs to ripen up some more and then it will be fine in theory and practice, not just theory.

340 days ago | Side: Good
3 points

Honestly, i think that more than communism, we should talk about Marx; mainly because, as a wise man said almost a century ago, not a real communist society has ever come true, so to pretend to know whethere communism is good or bad, has, practically, no sense. What Marx idealized was, theoretically "good": in reality, it is so different, Marx's concept of man, from those of profets' ? To me, Marx's dream, can occur only when the whole humanity has understood its concept of man, along with profets' one. Only after having understood it, the man has a chance to build up a more "sane" society. Let me tell you another thing: if you consider communism, which is to say Marx, only by comparing compensations, you haven't got the point.

327 days ago | Side: Good
2 points

No matter how many people say communism is good, there's always one who contradicts me! Yes the idea is good, but as i have said time and time again, it was introduced badly with catastrophic results! The idea of communism is far better than capitalism.

340 days ago | Side: Good
2 points

Communism is good in theory, and in small populations, but it does not work in large groups of people. In theory, communism makes everybody equal, but it does not scale well to large populations. Many native American villages were communist, because the villagers shared everything and worked for the good of the village, rather than themselves. In these villages, though, there were only a few hundred people at most, most of whom agreed with the system.

On a large scale, any attempts at communism have failed. All of them were accomplished by oppressive governments, and many of them stopped being communist because of economic problems. Now, the only large country that calls itelf communist, China, is actually closer to fascism because it has let private corporations enter but is still totalitarian.

329 days ago | Side: Good
2 points

the human biological mind always wants more than someone else (capitalism) and communism overrides that fact. I being a communist myself think that communism is a BRILLIANT idea but to make it work you would have to rewrite the human mind and instinct

317 days ago | Side: Good
1 point  

Hi everyone,

First time here, so I'll give it a shot.

In my opinion, I think that communism is one of the most rigorous and important political philosophies/ ideologies in the history of humanity. Marx's unveiling of the idea that history has been driven by class struggle, i.e ruling elite vs oppressed classes, and the marxist analysis of the Capitalist mode of production has yet to be bettered. That said, in my opinion I think that despite communism being a hope of love for humanity in that it want to abolish human suffering and misery, it also leaves no room for spiritual emancipation. In a nutshell, while communism claims emancipation in the material world, it leaves no room for spiritual religious emancipation, i.e.. reaching God and finding peace. Most communist people Ive read and that I know of personally are atheists mainly because they stick to Dialectial Materialism, which claims that there's nothing more that matter in motion. To conclude, communism is as I said a hope of love and prosperity but only in the material world. Nothing is left for vertical nourishment. Id like to hear you opinion!

Best,

Saad

313 days ago | Side: Good
Emperor(1352) Disputed
1 point  

Communism doesn't mean the end of religion, of course. Why would you think that?

Communism is just a political strategy so that humans can live like equals, with food for all, housing for all and more.

Spirituality and science can thrive in such a community, once established. If a communism was successful for 150+ years, religion would quickly come back, people would grow used to communism and they would have their material needs fulfilled, and all others can be fulfilled by love, family, philosophy or religion.

313 days ago | Side: Bad
saadb(3) Clarified
1 point  

Yes, the aim is equality and the end of class struggle. But the communism we know of so far banned religion and saw it as a negative element of society, superstition and backwardness. That is the communism we know of so far (20th century communism). And most communist thinkers are atheists, once they read the marxist canon, they can't accept God...Therefore, chances are high to be an atheist if you are a communist. Thats my only objection to communism...

313 days ago | Side: Good
1 point  

CHUNG CHUNG CHUNG

TECHNOCRATIC ROBOTIC AUTOMATON POST-SCARCITY COMMUNISM

CHUNG CHUNG CHUNG CHUNG CHUNG BEEEEEP SCREECH.

Yes, the ultimate form of life is a post-scarcity automationist culture.

All food is farmed by hyper intelligent robots that are able to repair themselves and each other, preventing breakdowns. They are programmed to feel intense, orgasmic joy at fulfilling the task they are assigned to. Some robots build houses, some manufacture objects, some farm, some care for orphan children.

They are programmed to be EXTREMELY skilled at their task, and able to repair each other. They are programmed to receive joy doing their specific task that they are programmed for. This way humanity can live in peace, the population slowly growing lower and lower as birthrates decline due to a controlled birth movement.

When we finally reach a population of around one billion, the Earth is stabilized, trees and forests grow back and humans are kept in small cities across a single continent, cared for by robots. Humans are able to paint, invent, discover and do anything they want, for money is no longer an issue. Nanobots and 3D printers create any device we could ever want. I expect virtual reality to exist by then as well. We can also colonize all of Mars and turn it into a thriving state of business and innovate, and we can spread across the universe, ensuring humanities survival for millions of years.

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If it goes uh, badly and the robots take over, just think of them as our children.

313 days ago | Side: Good
1 point  

Communism is absolutely, positively good. I don't understand where there isn't to like about Communism. Those who oppose Communism, are doing so because it is beneficial to them, and they are unwilling to relinquish the individual freedoms for the greater good of humanity. The reason Communism is so difficult to apply to today's world, is because it is convenient and easy for people, especially Americans, to turn a blind eye to the poor and needy, Because what would that mean? It would mean a radical change in the distribution of the worlds resources, and wealth, and frankly the rich and powerful Capitalist bourgeoisie doesn't want that. The only cases where Communism wouldn't be good to you, is if you are an elite, who is bent on keeping that power and status, or if you are just plain un willing to realize that if the world is truly to become a more prosperous place, it would take some intense sacrifice on your part. Communism is the most difficult task humanity would ever have to try to carryout, but it is definitely not impossible in today's world. Hell we can think of a solution to any problem if it benefits us. We went to the Moon for crying out loud. If we as Humans wanted Communism to work, it would work, and it would work efficiently.

298 days ago | Side: Good
2 points

It seems that the main argument against communism is not the actual theory, but its failure to work in practice. But I see the main flaw as one of Marxism itself.

The problem is that Marxism is Utopian. While Utopianism sounds like something we should all aim for, the reality is that it's incompatible with modern day human nature.

We have now reached a point in our society where we know what wealth is, and this causes greed. The elimination of class and imbalanced wealth is impossible voluntarily, and could only be achieved via force.

Therefore, Marx's theory is flawed. He never accounted for the actual implementation of communism in a capitalist society, and thus the system is doomed to fail from the start.

340 days ago | Side: Bad
2 points

I think that even in theory, communism is not a good idea. In my mind, it is unfair that, for example, a doctor who has spent years of their life training to help others gets the same pay as a cleaner who works five hours a week. A person's wealth should be proportionate to their contribution to society to a certain extent.

This is why I am a socialist, rather than a communist.

340 days ago | Side: Bad
1 point  

I haven't thought of this...That is a very excellent point you made.

339 days ago | Side: Bad
Orcris(61) Disputed
1 point  

This is a very capitalist argument. In communism, the idea of wealth is nonexitant. The doctor can't get the same amount of pay because there is no pay. In a communist society, people work to benefit the society, not themselves. Using the argument that these two people get the same pay goes against communism because it involves wealth existing.

327 days ago | Side: Good
anachronist(885) Disputed
1 point  

Wealth will always exist. If you have possessions, you have wealth. I think that wealth should be somewhat proportionate to the contribution that someone makes to society. If everyone gets exactly the same, no one will bother doing the shitty jobs, they'll just take the easy ones. You can't get people to work without a motivator.

I am not a proper capitalist, in fact, I'm a socialist. I believe that wealth should exist, but it should be fairly distributed, unlike in a more free market society where it is all grouped with the rich.

327 days ago | Side: Bad
1 point  

Just let the people grow. Life is a "survival of the fittest" game.

334 days ago | Side: Bad
1 point  

No proposal should be viewed with a scope from the ideal world. A solution isn't invented to thrive in an ideal world, it's to improve the actual one. If Communism is proven to be ineffectual or detrimental in the real world, then Communism is a bad idea. I'd say it is BECAUSE it is innately utopian, that it is untrue and inconsiderable. As I understand it, Communism is a stateless society ordered through common ownership of the means of production. This means that in addition to being devoid of a capability to defect from this system, given personal or functional inadequacies, it is devoid of a foolproof measure to reduce or prevent under-production and stagnation. A command economy, of any kind, lacks the innovation to avoid regression and general shortcomings.

314 days ago | Side: Bad
1 point  

Communism is simply a failure in practice. There isn't much more to be said, once there's mention of Stalin and what he managed to do.

313 days ago | Side: Bad
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