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 Is consciousness and presence the same? (5)

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Is consciousness and presence the same?

When you have someone's Coma body in your room, they are present but not conscious.
Without consciouness, is the qualification *presence* still valid?
You can see, touch the body but there is no consciousness?
The body is only as good as a doll.
How does consciousness leave a body and independent of it's immediate environment.
Have you been behind the wheels/stirrer while your consciousness not on the road?
If consciouness can exist independent of a body(and beyond it's limitation)?
Why must you see and touch God to verify his existence and consciousness?
If you have a body, you are bound in limits of your height/all dimensions of physical measurement and dependent on the body's necessary requirements such as air and food.
How far does your consciousness take you outside your body in imaginations of unlimited capabilities.
Can you stabilize it to absolute reality┬┐
And you can be capable of creating reality and illusions for things subject to you
What you say is reality will be the only reality to them.
Not being limited include developing your own living beings but limited in a body of your design and surviving on sparks on of your Ultimate conscious reality.
Subjects consciousness are enslaved into limited bodies and thereby accept it without wonder.
Evolving into full pure consciousness makes you all powerfull since you are not bound by measurements(science can't measure God, -especially as a subject).

God is all powerful, purely consciousness.
He limited himself by coming in the body of jesus where bed, chairs, houses, cross etc were measured for him.
Man feeds on his consciousness.
His entire being is absolute and Ultimate Reality; Not up for debate.
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2 points

Consciousness and presence are not the same.

This has nothing to do with and says nothing about the existence of any god(s).

jeffreyone(1137) Disputed
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Does your consciousness depend on the amount of flesh you have occupying an amount of space?

Like dolls?

Yes or no?

I cannot see your body on CD here but your presence is here in your consciousness. I believe you exist.

Why do you think God needs a body to be conscious, omnipresent; exist??

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"The body is only as good as a doll.

How does consciousness leave a body and independent of it's immediate environment.

Have you been behind the wheels/stirrer while your consciousness not on the road?

If consciouness can exist independent of a body(and beyond it's limitation)?

Why must you see and touch God to verify his existence and consciousness?

If you have a body, you are bound in limits of your height/all dimensions of physical measurement and dependent on the body's necessary requirements such as air and food.

How far does your consciousness take you outside your body in imaginations of unlimited capabilities.

Can you stabilize it to absolute reality┬┐

And you can be capable of creating reality and illusions for things subject to you

What you say is reality will be the only reality to them.

Not being limited include developing your own living beings but limited in a body of your design and surviving on sparks on of your Ultimate conscious reality.

Subjects consciousness are enslaved into limited bodies and thereby accept it without wonder.

Evolving into full pure consciousness makes you all powerfull since you are not bound by measurements(science can't measure God, -especially as a subject).

God is all powerful, purely consciousness.

He limited himself by coming in the body of jesus where bed, chairs, houses, cross etc were measured for him.

Man feeds on his consciousness.

His entire being is absolute and Ultimate Reality; Not up for debate."

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Wtf are you talking about?

jeffreyone(1137) Clarified
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The state of God; His existence..................................................... .

jeffreyone(1137) Disputed
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You start from the top not half way through.

Without reading preceeding lines, subsequent ones won't make sense.

Read what i give you as it is... not what you want edited.

It is first of all based on distinguishing between consciousness and presence(if it is distinguishable in the first place; all depends on how you debate and back up your view).

You don't be a coward down voting me without an argument for the mere fact that the debate progressively transcends into proving the existence of God; the guy every evil man hates, -to hear of.

xMathFanx(671) Disputed
2 points

@jeffreyone.

You don't be a coward down voting me without an argument for the mere fact that the debate progressively transcends into proving the existence of God

I didn't down vote you