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Debate Score:57
Arguments:41
Total Votes:57
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Is gay okay?

Should gay people be allowed to be themselves

Yes

Side Score: 36
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No

Side Score: 21

Whatever gets you through the night, or the day for that matter.

Except in Russia.

In Russia it's a custodial offence to engage in gay sexual activities. There's a ten year waiting list to get into their prisons.

Live and let live, that's my motto.

Side: Yes
instig8or(3307) Disputed
1 point

Also Saudi and every single Sharia Law nation, even the tourist hub that Dubai is known to be outlaws homosexuality.

Uganda and some extremely Christian nations in Africa also do this.

Side: No
2 points

Well, I didn't mean exclusively Russia, but Russia included.

Many years ago, the mid 1970s, one of my ex-employees went to work in Riyadh Saudi Arabia and explained the harsh and repressive Muslim regime which existed there.

He was the first person to enlighten me to the barbarity of Sharia law and the Islamic intolerance to western values and customs.

That was over 40 years ago and nothing has changed, except their presence in the west has increased manifold and throughout many cities in Europe they're trying, successfully, to establish and enforce their Sharia laws.

That I can understand.

But what I cannot comprehend is the way most liberal politicians in the west are aiding and abetting them in achieving their goal of the Islamization of the west.

You couldn't make it up.

Side: Yes
2 points

It's just okay to be gay, but it's great to be straight.

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Side: Yes
Winklepicker(1020) Clarified
1 point

What about the L.G.B.T.s?

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Side: Yes

Being happy is better than sad IMHO. Just saying.

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Side: Yes

Depends. There's a difference between being yourself and expressing that in public and getting wrapped up in an identity to the point where being gay is all you know how to do, and start to attack others for not being gay.

Side: Yes
1 point

Yes they should. If the only purpose of relationships were procreation, every couple who ends up not raising children should be persecuted and any couple who gives their children up for adoption should be severely fined at the very least.

Side: Yes

Yes it is to an extent. Like if your in public do not bash the heterosexual couples that is not alright but same goes for the heterosexuals don't bash the homosexual couples. If you are "being" which makes no sense but OK lets go with it. So you are out having fun and a homosexual sees a really hot person same sex of course do not run up on them if you do not know them. And defiantly do not touch them it is wrong and somewhat gross.

If you are that desperate their are such things called dating apps. Use them

Side: Yes
1 point

Gay people are welcome to be themselves.

As a nation we should not impose their lifestyles on others.

Side: Yes
SlapShot(2607) Disputed
1 point

But how can you as a raving and zealous fundamentalist Christian, who claims their biblecis the inerrant word of God, not support its stance on homosexuality?

That stance being, of course, that all of them are unforgivable sinners who deserve to burn in hell? If you claim the gays are entitled to be themselves you are contradicting your holy book mandate. Also you are going being insubordinate to your God's orders.

Making you a sinner. A heretic.

You cannot have it both ways. You cannot preach your silly Bible and say that everything in it is irrefutable, and then say that some of its laws should not be followed.

To do this casts questions on all of its rules and laws.

You know, like us rational atheists do!

LOL

SS

Side: No
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

No one ever said that homosexuals were unforgivable.

I said all must be born again. And I have a friend who came out of that lifestyle and he is married to one of my other friends. I knew him as he was turning to God. And God did change him and free him. He is now a minister to people who seek to come out of that lifestyle. And my friend has become a wonderful husband father and has joy of grandchildren.

So please do not put words in my mouth.

100% of people need to be born again through the work of the cross and Jesus through the Holy Spirit in their lives.

The gay must also be born again! Jesus said We MUST be born again to enter Heaven. There is no other door.

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Side: Yes
KNHav(1957) Disputed
1 point

Also forcing the world to be "Holy" or moral is not our job. Influencing the world is. At the same time preventing the force of immorality into society is what we do stand to prevent.

Sodom and Gommorah had behaviors that grew out of control. By the time God said thats enough, and destroyed them they were forcing it onto unwilling neighbors.

When societies grew to that degree of evil when they forced it onto others who did not want it, God brought judgment.

Thats today in Western civilization, particuarly the Millennials and those in agreement with them as they force many evils onto their neighbors. That is the indicator of completion of iniquity in a society. And we have arrived on many fronts.

Two imparticular, and both these brought major annihilating judgment. And both Noahs day society and Sodom and Gomorrah are spoken of specifically by Jesus as end times examples.

What were their societies sins that made God say enough?

Noahs society was extreme violence as well as extreme immorality.

In Genesis violence continually, evil hearts continually, and immorality particuarly causing gene perversion.

And the blood spilled on the earth was as bad as man gets before God loses His patience.

And Sodom and Gomorrah's final acts that God said enough, was the force of immorality on their unwilling neighbors.

As shown as the men of the town nearly banged down Lot's door to force sex on the men who were visiting. And on Lot's children since it was a force of demand on the house, and it was deemed acceptable by the leaders and society. It was bold in it force without objection or justice.

Welcome to the final generation. Jesus said exactly what society would be like.

Even in Corinthians Paul says we dont force on the lost world our morality. We do force it in the church. And society is banging that door down as well as in our childrens schools.

So as tax payers of a nation who doesnt force beliefs on others, with free exercise of beliefs we have responsibility and every right to resist the force of contrary beliefs upon us all and our children. But stopping the gay from his lifestyle was never an issue till they decided to force their lifestyle on all.

And born that way or not, no one has a right to force their beliefs on others. Influence and free exercise is Constitutional. Forcing it into schools and businesses and others homes is a crime against tax paying Americans who do not embrace their beliefs.

Its one thing to benefit all, that makes America palatable in true tolerance. But to swing it hard in depravity is a force of non-neutrality. To the good in mid ground is neutral. Because any degree can go in either direction according to pursuit.

But to force depravity is not neutral. It forces good to have to endure everyones depravity. Even great grandmothers and young children.

But society has taken a stance to force depravity. Not tolerant neutrality. And it is supported against American law, so they rewrite it in favor of beliefs fueled by depravity.

This is when God says enough. History repeats. Enough!

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Side: Yes
DBCooper(2194) Disputed
1 point

Homosexuals are beheaded, hanged and stoned in modern Saudi Arabia and Iran, where Muhammad's laws are applied most strictly. Five other Muslim countries also have the death penalty on their books for homosexual behavior. In the past, gays were burned.

As one cleric recently put it, the only point of theological debate is not whether the homosexual should be killed, but how it should be done.

In 2016, an educated imam in Tunisia explained that while it may seem harsh, there is not ambiguity about this in Islam:

God is very straightforward about this — not we Muslims, not subjective, the Sharia is very clear about it, the punishment for homosexuality, bestiality or anything like that is death. We don’t make any excuses about that, it’s not our law — it's the Quran

You want to address the Religion of Islam on Homo's ?

Side: Yes
1 point

It's okay to claim that Homosexuality is sin ... < freedom of conscience / freedom of belief ...

as all other sin/s, it needs to be called what God calls it .. even / especially when we see it in our own lives

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If we say that we have no sin .. we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us ..

If we confess our sins .. he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness

If we say that we have not sinned .. we make him a liar and his word is not in us .... 1 John 1:8-10

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Homosexuality and the Bible

Side: Yes
1 point

Be yourself in your home. Leave other people alone when you are in public.

Side: No
instig8or(3307) Disputed
1 point

Other people should leave you the fuck alone. You can't claim to be libertarian and use this 'behind closed doors' bullshit.

Side: Yes
1 point

My statement was not specific to gays. Does that make it better? My statement is supposed to apply to everyone.

Side: Yes
SlapShot(2607) Disputed
1 point

Of course a faggot like you would say that.

When are you gonna admit I busted you and you don't live in North Korea?

Why do you lie so much?

Side: No
Hawkstar(31) Disputed
1 point

Well then straight couples shouldn't kiss and hug in public either. There's literally no difference.

Side: Yes
1 point

I was thinking that being yourself was something much more complicated than you. I don't think acting like everybody else (kissing in public like straight people) is being yourself because you are being just like everybody else.

Side: Yes
1 point

yes but it is a different thing to pretend to be the opposite gendder

Side: No
Hawkstar(31) Disputed
1 point

what do you mean by "pretend" _

Side: Yes

Gay can never be okay....gay is not prolific....

Matthew 7:19►New International Version Every tree that does not beargood fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

God made us to fill the earth...male and fem. Had the world started with two men or women And no opposite sex, they would have been dead long ago...

Even uncivilised animals in the forest won't do this....its just demonic.....

Satan always brings his style in the game....Satan is a copycat....

And he does his fakes to mock God....Gay is the satan's invention....

Men don't have any recieving body parts for sex.

1 Timothy 6:20Verse Concepts O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called "knowledge"-

But am not surprised the pope endorses it...

2 Thessalonians 2:9Verse Conceptsthat is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders,

2 Corinthians 11:14-15No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angelof light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants alsodisguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.

2 Peter 2:1Verse ConceptsBut false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who willsecretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

People open yours and see the difference between the works of satan and God.......

If all men should stop sleeping women but with men, the Plans of God cannot be fulfilled.

He brings children into the world at appointed times to make prophecies come true.....

Satan wants to limit that...Gays think they are fighting for their rights....they don't realise they are fighting for their destruction.

There is a way out....Go to church and sincerely give your life to christ....all those demons will leave you...You won't have those feelings anymore....those feelings are chains....

Side: No