Is islam a religion of peace?
Islam - the submission of one's will to god (allah)
It's the end of the first decade of the 21st century and while Christianity is on the decline, another abrahamic religion has taken it's place. The Islamic faith draws people into it's doctrine by the thousands. From a faith that was once practiced by certain ethnic groups, it is now followed by people from all races and social backgrounds. While pre-christian Europe becomes increasingly secular, it has also became the arena of a new form of psychological battle field. Some westerner see it is merely another belief system that is yet to adapt to the western hemisphere, yet others see it is a vicious politically motivated doctrine who's masterminds seeks to undermine the principles of human rights and hard gained civil liberties. From freedom of expression to accusations of islamophobia and intolerance to secular principles versus uncompromising faith-based principles. As the number of individuals being prosecuted for critizing Islam rises and the fundumentalist wings gain momentum, many westerners are now beginning to wonder whether the very definition of submission has gone too far...
Yes, it's only a belief system
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No, it's a violent ideology
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no religion is a religion of violence... its just as if a group of people who come together and call themselves one and give themselves a similar name or identity. this is what must have happened long ago. when people found differences amongst themselves... Side: Yes, it's only a belief system
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Your characterization of those who feel Islam is no better or worse at it's core than any other ridiculous superstition, and as such should be granted all the rights of any religion gauranteed in the Constitution, is somehow "submission" - frankly is ridiculous. Taking a tribal view of religion on either side inevitably leads to violence eventually because the human psyche is entirely too caught up in these various theories of magical enternal life. Because of this, and because many of the original immigrants to the US were escaping this kind of tribal idea of religion which we are now seeing on the Right in Western countries, and too a far greater extreme in these Islamic countries that produce terrorists because of it, they created a separation of Church and State, and a guarantee of religious freedom within the bounds of the agreed upon law. The Islamic faith does not inherently lead to violence within the context of a State with both religious freedom and a separation of Church and State any more than Christianity, Judism, Catholisism, or any other silly superstition. Individual cases of violence of terrorism will always exist. It exists in Christianity now with the God Hates Fags idiots. If the God Hates Fags people lived in a third world country, they would be just as likely to fly planes into buildings as the extreme Muslims on the other side. The problem is not and never has been, as the founders of this country understood and which the Right is trying desperately to forget, any one religion in and of itself. The problem with any religion is when it is allowed power over the lives of individuals beyond what those individuals freely choose, and naturally as is the case with all religion, whithout the checks and balances provided by government based on law and not ideology. Creating a false sense of "us vs them" in terms of religion itself, instead of in terms of the individuals guilty of a specific crime, only serves to fuel this tribalism. It turns in this instance many of the "Christians" into the uncompromising idealogues they regularly (through vessels like Fox and other NewCorp affiliates) accuse all Muslims of being. And even now, Christians are just as guilty of death on a mass scale as Muslims, it's just not covered as such and not as spectacular with bombs and whatnot. But the Christian-driven government stance of discouraging condoms in Africa as a means of stopping AIDS because an invisible daddy in the sky said safe sex is a sin, I almost gaurantee has indirectly lead to the death of far more humans than any airplanes Muslim terrorists happened to have hijacked. Side: Yes, it's only a belief system
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Religion by its very nature is submission. One is submitting to an uncompromising ideology that all too often has neither the individual's or humanity as a whole's best interest at heart. If its name is submission I must say, at the very least of all the silly religions out there, this one advertises itself honestly. At any rate you phrased submission as if "Western" culture were "submitting", as if "Western" culture does not and has not always included those of Islamic origin. You did not phrase it in the context of them submitting to their own religion. Naturally they submit. I would argue that for any who submit an ounce to any religion, "submission has gone too far." But unlike the hypocritical Christian masses, I am not so naive to think I can force my personal view about this mess of unfounded belief on another. I simply argue my point. You, on the other hand, and many Christians now seem to be taking a stance this particular religion is somehow fundamentally at it's core different. It is not I assure you, as a completely unbiased outside observer of the whole religion thing, they are all quite the same. Side: Yes, it's only a belief system
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A lot of people view a religion as a means to create war and deprive others of what they want to believe in but really thats what people make of it and do with it belief in its self is a means of feeling secure in knowing death isn't it amongst other things, to think that religion is an excuse for war is stupid in that most religions consider murder a mortal sin or what they consider a "bad thing". Islam on the view as it being a religion of Peace is debatable to a point but it all comes down to what a person does and people who fight in that name are not really fighting for any god but for them selves as such creating mass blood shed which i though Islam said was a "bad thing" and I'm a not wrong in saying Christians did it and so did a few other religions and we don't view that as wrong well at least most don't so why view this one as a violent religion. Side: Yes, it's only a belief system
I am so tired of all the rhetoric that attempts to use religion as some kind of cheap explanation that allows the labeling of such large groups of people enemy. Are humans creatures of peace? I agree with Plato in that only the dead will see the end of war. Life entails constant assault obvious or not. To focus on Islam is to divert from addressing the root problem of violence. The ironic thing I've noticed is that those who regularly condemn group X for being violent, never seem to hesitate to admit their confidence that violence is very often often an appropriate action. I think if we can get beyond labeling people as enemies that would be for us (people in general ,regardless of labeled group affiliation) a historically unprecedented healthy advancement. "In time of war the nonviolent know their enemy, while for the violent, the enemy is mysterious always changing." ~atypican Side: Yes, it's only a belief system
Islam is not a religion in cIslam is not just a religion in the Christian sense of the word, it’s a system of self governance. It holds each individual responsible for their own actions. There is no “The Mosque” as there is in Christianity the centralized institution “The Church” Jews believe themselves to be Gods chosen race, Christians believe themselves to be Gods children and Muslims consider themselves to be Gods slaves. 95% of the populace before 9/11 could not even care less that Muslims have been living alongside them without a complaint for years. Now that the Western economic system has collapsed, as it did during the crusades, Muslims countries have become the place to pillage for resources and the means to extract them has also decreased. Religion is providing the cover story as it did back then. Nothing said or “revealed” about Islam has any basis in fact and most has been dismissed or disproved but the mob mentality means people don’t listen to answers and are supportive of what they see as action against an enemy out of sight. The democratic system is destroying it’s own civil rights and liberties just as it did during Nazi Germany were the Jews where blamed for everything and all rights were taken away from the populace “to tighten security.” Not a single measure today is aimed at Muslims only but the populace as a whole, it’s important to remember that, so you can’t blame religion for that. As for the rest. People don’t like being insulted and when you’ve just had a drone missile hit your village and kill your whole family because someone was allegedly fighting for the wrong team your not going to be happy are you? It’s this fight fire with fire attitude that is causing a lot of the friction not religion. During my visit there a lot of the people were taking up arms not because of religion but for lost friends and family and the belief that “if they thought I was a terrorist before their actions have just made me one now”. Islam always was and will be a system. There is no word for holy war in Islam the closest is Jung ul muqada which you will not find in any scriptures or religious text. The concept of total war is alien in Islam as it’s a missionary religion and the only one not spread by the sword. In the Quran it says categorically “La Iqrah fid-Deen” (There is no compulsion in religion) (Surah Al-Baqara, Ayat 256) So any talk of a secret take over or psychological warfare is down to reading too much Dan Brown and secret societies novels. Side: It's a misrepresented religion
Jews believe themselves to be Gods chosen race, Christians believe themselves to be Gods children and Muslims consider themselves to be Gods slaves. 95% of the populace before 9/11 could not even care less that Muslims have been living alongside them without a complaint for years. Now that the Western economic system has collapsed, as it did during the crusades, Muslims countries have become the place to pillage for resources and the means to extract them has also decreased. Religion is providing the cover story as it did back then. It's actually not so simple. Sectarian violence can be masqueraded as politics but in the case with Islam we see that violent factions are springing up all over Africa, the Middle East, and Southwest Asia which all are joined by their commitment to bring sharia into their home countries through violent means. These factions will pay poor families for their male children and send them to schools of indoctrination, where they are presented with an extremely violent and one-sided representation of the west, and are taught that since we target civilians, terrorists may legitimately target them as well. As for the rest. People don’t like being insulted and when you’ve just had a drone missile hit your village and kill your whole family because someone was allegedly fighting for the wrong team your not going to be happy are you? It’s this fight fire with fire attitude that is causing a lot of the friction not religion. During my visit there a lot of the people were taking up arms not because of religion but for lost friends and family and the belief that “if they thought I was a terrorist before their actions have just made me one now”. There seems to be two classes of terrorists. The freedom fighters and the suicide bombers. The first may arise out of genuine disgust with the current political and social conditions. We create a lot of these merely by supporting Israel while it kills many civilians in Palestine. Not to mention the leaks of Abu Ghraib's torture, and that we turn a blind eye to torture in Iraq. However the other kind is different because it arises from true indoctrination into Islamic Jihad and martyrdom. This is why even if we fix our reputation and offer peace with these countries, we can only hope to eliminate the freedom fighters; the suicide bombers will remain because these terror cells are so easy to start, have no central leadership, and are born from an impossible ambition: worldwide Islamic states and the slaying of the Infidel. Islam always was and will be a system. There is no word for holy war in Islam the closest is Jung ul muqada which you will not find in any scriptures or religious text. The concept of total war is alien in Islam as it’s a missionary religion and the only one not spread by the sword. In the Quran it says categorically “La Iqrah fid-Deen” (There is no compulsion in religion) (Surah Al-Baqara, Ayat 256) So any talk of a secret take over or psychological warfare is down to reading too much Dan Brown and secret societies novels. Sura 8 And their worship at the (holy) House is naught but whistling and hand-clapping. Therefore (it is said unto them): Taste of the doom because ye disbelieve. (35) Lo! those who disbelieve spend their wealth in order that they may debar (men) from the way of Allah. They will spend it, then it will become an anguish for them, then they will be conquered. And those who disbelieve will be gathered unto hell, (36) That Allah may separate the wicked from the good, The wicked will He place piece upon piece, and heap them all together, and consign them unto hell. Such verily are the losers. (37) Tell those who disbelieve that if they cease (from persecution of believers) that which is past will be forgiven them; but if they return (thereto) then the example of the men of old hath already gone (before them, for a warning). (38) And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah. But if they cease, then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do. (39) Sura 9 Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty. (1) Travel freely in the land four months, and know that ye cannot escape Allah and that Allah will confound the disbelievers (in His guidance). (2) And a proclamation from Allah and His messenger to all men on the day of the Greater Pilgrimage that Allah is free from obligation to the idolaters, and (so is) His messenger. So, if ye repent, it will be better for you; but if ye are averse, then know that ye cannot escape Allah. Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve, (3) Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him). (4) Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (5) Side: No, it's a violent ideology
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I realize you wrote this argument 149 days ago, however i must concur with the argument you're making due the rational premises you have based it on. Quite frankly your argument is not as biased as you or anyone might think it is. You have highlighted as many, if not all, of the crucial factors. Your last point regarding people reading too much of Dan Brown's novels could not be far from the truth. Side: No, it's a violent ideology
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It is quite obvious that not many of the writers who believe Islam is a religion of VIOLENCE, really know nothing about Islam. Anyone who has enough knowledge about Islam would know that the base of Islam is based on peace, love and peace. How can a religion be based on violence, think of it how meaningless is that ? There are so many men of peace who are Muslim and we can not judge Islam as a religion of violence because of the Muslim people who have caused bad things. Many people from different religions have caused violence and war if we take a quick look at human history. Can we judge a religion by the bad people who believe in it? That is simply meaningless. Side: Yes, it's only a belief system
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though yes in part many of religions tell you to commit many distasteful deeds it is the stride for peace. Christianity may be the largest followed belief in America. but u if you look at the foundation of both Islam and Christianity they have the same laws. (i.e they both agree that Christ was a messenger form god as was Abraham,moses, and Noah). In the bible it says it was wrong to drink to the point of blacking out well Islam doesn't have the problem because they decided never to drink.( one social vice taken out of the picture.) next both follow a one god concept both religions shear the same commandments. there fore if they have the same core and Christianity either western or eastern how can one say they are wrong in the religious system when there same core values are near mirror image of that of the west. Side: Yes, it's only a belief system
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Islam is a very violent, intolerant, fascist ideology but because it is a religion it is granted an automatic level of respect in our society, and because it is practiced predominantly by an ethnic minority in our society, it gains the privileges of tolerance which come with that territory. There are two problems however, which make this issue very tricky. The first is that while people may profess to be members of a violent belief system, it seems to be uncommon that they act upon it. We see this in the west with Christianity: why aren't gays and lesbians being assassinated regularly, and witches being burned? Our culture frowns upon violence, while the religion encourages it, so it must be that culture is more influencing than religion in shaping peoples' attitudes and behaviours. Therefore attacking Islam alone would be largely ineffective at reducing the violent mindset of people from Muslim countries. I believe that a religion captures the culture of the era in which it is developed, and tries to preserve that culture forever. Western society is an example of how we broke through that stasis. In the Islamic East, the culture largely resembles the religion, they haven't broke from it, and if culture is more important in shaping actions than religion, then we would be attacking the wrong target. The second problem is alienation. People are largely swayed by their culture, and are rarely truly studious of their beliefs. They often have a filter that edits or distorts what they are reading so that it doesn't upset their morality. If we persecute Muslims, however, they will feel desperate and that is when a person starts to believe in extreme ideology. Therefore, we must rely on the fact that most Muslims are ignorant of their holy book, or at least, don't truly believe in killing and raping their neighbors. We must realise that their culture is more important, so we must work on making that culture insensitive to criticism. The further we separate the culture from the Koran the closer we become to having a culture that is tolerant, and healthy. I believe that the best way we could achieve our aims of assimilating Muslims into the west is through the use of humour. If we poke fun at Islam, make fun of its flaws and take it without seriousness, then it might force Muslims to reflect on those passages and cause them to distance themselves from it because their own personal morality is greater. The crucial point, however, is to not persecute these people. They are part of society and if you treat them as second-class citizens then you will alienate them and cause them to become extremists (where they actually hold the Koran as more moral than their own judgment). Side: No, it's a violent ideology
I think this is mostly a good argument, but I have some problems with it. First, I'm not clear on what exactly you want to achieve. Do you want to turn Iran et al into western-like countries? I agree that this would be a good thing, but pursuing this goal strikes me as a huge overreach. Cultural imperialism is distasteful. And in any case, I don't think "laughing at them" is going to be at all effective in achieving this goal. I think we should be focused on the much narrower problem of Islamic terrorism. Here it's not the entire religion we're targeting, but rather Al Queda and similar organizations. I think the US is already doing a decent job of pursuing this goal. Disrupting terrorism while supporting acceptable governments is the best course of action. Getting Israel to stop being so belligerent would also help ease tensions. Side: Yes, it's only a belief system
First, I'm not clear on what exactly you want to achieve. Do you want to turn Iran et al into western-like countries? I agree that this would be a good thing, but pursuing this goal strikes me as a huge overreach. Cultural imperialism is distasteful. And in any case, I don't think "laughing at them" is going to be at all effective in achieving this goal. I want to subvert western Islam into something that is Liberal and tolerant. I want to see the Muslim community here brought into the 21st century, so that it condemns intolerance and works with us towards countering terrorists. It is at this point impossible to convert Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan into secular, tolerant cultures. This is because the populace is widely distrustful of the west, and they are under the spell of toxic religious and political leaders. If we made western Islam liberalised, and carried out covert assassinations on their leaders, we might be able to slowly reform their culture because the liberal Muslims here would be able to show that populace that there is a better way to live. Whether you wish to call it imperialism or not, it is politically necessary to eliminate the parts of cultures that encourage misogyny and terrorism. I think we should be focused on the much narrower problem of Islamic terrorism. Here it's not the entire religion we're targeting, but rather Al Queda and similar organizations. I think the US is already doing a decent job of pursuing this goal. Disrupting terrorism while supporting acceptable governments is the best course of action. We act largely on the defensive, always waiting until the Islamists make their next move. If we reform the culture, then terrorism will be mostly quashed. Getting Israel to stop being so belligerent would also help ease tensions. Most of the Islamists won't be satisfied until Israel is a smoldering heap. We have to accept this and find a way to reduce the influence of these people over their followers. Side: No, it's a violent ideology
good argument. but your solution wont work. poking humor only infuriates them. remember the Danish cartoons? some cartoonist linked violence to Muhammad. what happened? mass riots in most Islamic countries and fatwas demanding the death of the cartoonist. this is just a normal thing that happens in Islamic middle east. the real solution is to demolish sharia law in the middle east. there is no distinction between religion and government. once intolerant inhumane sharia law is demolished. there will be a chance for cultural transformation into a western ideology. Side: No, it's a violent ideology
good argument. but your solution wont work. poking humor only infuriates them. remember the Danish cartoons? some cartoonist linked violence to Muhammad. what happened? mass riots in most Islamic countries and fatwas demanding the death of the cartoonist. this is just a normal thing that happens in Islamic middle east. Correct, this was the consequence because for decades all of Islam's faults have been put on the back of people's minds due to violent suppression of criticism. However joking about it and making legitimate criticism brings these issues back to the forefront and even though a majority of Muslims will not like being forced to address these faults they will eventually have to come to terms with them. This is why we must ignore the violence and act like the free, tolerant, but also vigilant against opression, society that we are. We need to defend human rights by reminding Muslims what it is that they are defending by remaining complacent under corrupt dictators, monarchs, prime ministers, and Imams. Then they can work to rebuild their culture and salvage the good parts. the real solution is to demolish sharia law in the middle east. there is no distinction between religion and government. once intolerant inhumane sharia law is demolished. there will be a chance for cultural transformation into a western ideology. In the Middle East most Muslims want Sharia, because it is promoted as perfect and god-given. If we force Muslims to confront the suffering of women, homosexuals, intellectuals, at the hands of this system, their natural morality will force them to reject Sharia. The best way we can accomplish this is through NOT acting violently, because this only makes us a scapegoat. Instead we must poke fun at Sharia, and constantly remind them of the abuses it causes. Side: Yes, it's only a belief system
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Islam is not a religion of peace. It does not promote peace in the Quran either. What does jihad mean???? to wage a "holy" war against your enemies, doesn't sound peaceful does it? As far as you saying the Christianity is in decline, i doubt that. Side: No, it's a violent ideology
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That is not what jihad means, jihad means to strive for good cause. I dare you to find the words "harb mukaddasa" which means "holy war" in the quran. The quran says that there is not compulsion in religion. It seems.. you are gullible, the media influences your thinking a lot. Side: Yes, it's only a belief system
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Islam is very confusing. You can get so many quotes form the Quran where "God" tells you to be violent and so many where he tells you to be loving and peaceful. Different groups interpret it how they want and the use it to justify whatever they are doing. There may be contradicting statements in the bible but the overall message is pretty consistent unlike the Quran. And I am talking bout the new testament mostly. Side: No, it's a violent ideology
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I was lost in the Darkest parts of my own wicked ways, spiraling down a path of destruction leading me away from His Almighty ways, and all the while im going down ONLY ONE, He could save me. No matter how far i looked on this lowly planet, i never once found a soul who could manage, to show me the love that i truly needed, because on this planet aint nothing but hate and contempt have been breeded. the lowly snake slithering as he goes through the towns of man looking for lowly lowly souls, to feed on so that it could plant it's evil seeds, and so that throughout the generations nothing but evil and hate we could recieve, but those where the ways of the past, my brothers and sisters. the devil had a hold of us and he managed through our parents, down through the generations His ways have been lost, and because of the us, the devil has turned and tossed, We can All be saved, all we need is Thanksgiving, to the One who Above, for All of His Givings. The devils trying to stop me right now as i speak, but Faithful to the Lord and willit He, that i may be meek. Because it is He not i that gives you this message but it is The One that we All should seek. i know that it is hard to find Rest, as we all go through this test some call a game, every single last one of us, probably, training to gain and retain our fame. But That is not what this life is about, i have a Strong feeling that we are All getting our Water from the wrong wrong spout. because thats all the devil has for us is a little bit, of pleasure, then comes the pain. steady feeding our bodies what i see now Is Insane. because ya'll hafto see that we are all carnally minded, and This is the reason The LORD, us he has blinded, binding, ourselves to our own flesh, so that eventually we would All fail this Test. but know that The Lord, He loves us, and wishes nothing but the best, and all He wants is for us to Love Him all the while through this Test. some wonder why we see nadoes and quakes, He needs ya'll to know that its Ya'lls souls that He is trying to shake. and bake if you will, so the devil may not have his fill, to letchya'll know that there is NONE like that ALMIGHTY AND ALL POWERFULL ONE. i say full because Hes filled with Love, like None that we have seen on this lowly earth, but now that i have SEEN, my Eyes have been UnBlinded, and now it is He, He who signs this, letter so maybe that some of Ya'll could listen, and Maybe get the Message that He is trying to dish, out of His spout, so that ya'll might be fed, with all of His Love, His Water, And His Bread. Don't for a second think any of Ya'll are living, All of ya'll are dead and for the devil are you "living" as i sit here and do this all of the "dome" just know that it is Not me and that this is His tomb. He is singing through me in these words and this song, so that maybe one day we All can be free all the day long, and ya'll can say its cheesy if ya'll want, but just know the devil in you he does flaunt x) i had to stop and show ya'll how i felt about that one, cuz its the truth, and right now i have a Strong feeling He is swinging harder than that brother Babe Ruth, or ballin harder than micheal jordan, and in this song he Is Playing His Accordian. Ya'll just need to know that He is our Guardian, and right now im flying Higher than any single air jordan, because my love i gave to Him more than any of Ya'll so i guess i can say more than them. But dont getit twizted like boi's if ya'll know, that me and moreover Him, have a lot to show. we are all brothers and sisters, but i should call us the missers, because we all fail to see the smaller things in this world, without even thinking twice, what truly brings a man alot of happiness or to see the pain that ALOT of us have in us. i know that we are all hurting on the inside, and for ya'll who say we dont, Boi, you know that is a lie, because only with Him and not that evil leech from down south, can we truly fly. higher than the highest of trees or the tallest of mountains, But in Him we Have to trust, so that We may Drink From The One and Only True fountain, only because of Him can i do this for days, and its Because i gave Him my love, thanksgiving, and praise. so now that i have seen what it is truly to be Man, Men of God, all these hater out there who bout to say something aint nuthing more than sod. sorry if it dont make sense, just know that me and Him the latter first, We are just trying to give His children, ya'll some mother lovin cents. forgive me if i pause for no longer am i a vulgar man life is just a beach, and Now, He is playing in the sand, hopefully in the minds of the young, the daughters and sons, i have my holster, and now the Lord is my Gun, Shining Brighter, than a million suns, times two, because His love is True, actually make that twenty twenty, because He is aplenty, in me in you and All, i just hope that ya'll can hear His call, so that maybe that ya'll may not fall, into the Pit, but right now i can say the devil is probably having a fit, of anxiety cuz he is losing his "children" just know that we are God's and with me He has been pilfering, in my mind day and night, as i have been in my room trying to stay out of sight, of ya'll because all it seems like to me, that nothing to ya'll it would please, more, than to see one of your own fellow brother get shot and fall. when i look around me i dont see any real love, this evil surrounds me, but Now i DO NOT CARE, because the Lord, THE LORD, HE has found me. so now ya'll cannot touch, because with His love, im about to bust. with loving Faith and Trust, i put in Him, so that i can be led away from this life of sin, and Now that i have His Trust, my brotha's and sista's, not just the black ones, comeon now, that just is not a must, there is no such thing man, all that is, is nothing more than an evil thought, brought up in vain, so that maybe a man's soul, that leech, can be bought. Quit being evil, for it is Love, that should be sought, out so once again we may be fed from His Spout, for only He can give us what we need so that in the end we may succeed. my brothers and sisters all we need to do is Believe, and then, Anything, together, WE CAN ACHIEVE. this is an ode to ya'll so in hopes once again that ya'll may hear The Call, and will not fall, so one day me, ya'll, and The Almighty,Perfect, like a prefect without the er, Omnipotent, and Patient ONE, that together we May All Ball. and they keep telling me to stop, but i just cant my brothers me and Him are headed to the top, and right now i got The Heart Of A Lion, King, and pray tell me my brothers and sisters who are reading, what single Beast can stop that king? of the jungle we are running but with Him we can be free. out into the open pasture we all can roam, just know this is not me, and that this is His Tomb. its wierd how they're spelled alike but do not rhyme, im talking bout bomb my brothers, and its One of a Kind. in the Hopes that this petty rhyme, can help lead the black sheep, away from the Blind, being themselves, for who? tell me can save them from that? if you dont answer right then your a part of this blight that runs rampant through the streets, evil im talking about and all it wants to do is eat, your souls because it is angry at the Living God, hahahaha for it is nothing more than a sod, on His Cleat as He is Running, Hoping that some of these Words, hit you right in the stomach, and make you sick, but not you, im talking about the evil you, for we are all children of God, but we have made ourselves nothing more than a sod =( i say with a heavy heart, because all this time we have been playing the devil, his part, but with Him it is nothing but a fart, because He Forgives, and Only Through Him may we EVER, get the chance to Live, and im not talking about on the earth, im talking about another, and maybe one day you can see and i can Truly call you my Brother, for there is Life in Death, but it is only gained through this life which is a test, just know that when we die, if you have lived righteously, on that day you will Fly, for the Lord will Breathe His Breath in you when you die and like i said before You Will Fly, but not if you keep eating from the devil's table, for you can only eat from one, and i hope its Not the devil's table. for if we Eat from Him, we can All go back into His Stable, and only in doing that can we Ever truly be stable, only only if, we are eating from, The Living God's Table. and for ya'll who are sitting at your computers steadily dissin Him, i pray for you, because it you are missin, Him and the bigger picture, just know right now im taking a Big Gulp From His Ultimate Pitcher, not one from the MLB, and if you are listening then i pray that you sea, i mean see, but with Him we can fly over the one before, and higher than mike, dunk it in, right for a score, but not for 2 for it is for 3, because He is Holy in me, but atm holy in you, because you missing some parts, we all need to change, so that we may play His Part, that He intended from the Beginning, because only With Him can we ever be winning, but hahahaha not as long as we are sinning. for that is not the way that we was meant to walk, With Him we was mean to Walk and Talk. once again i say this way i, used to, but we choose to live, is insane in the membrane, but He is using me as His Template, lol or templar whichever you prefer, just know that He is Prefect, ha just without the errrr. as i sit here steadily dissin em i mean the demons in the minds of the children of the One and Only, God Who Is Kind, i hope that they depart, so we can All gaze upon The Divine, not like wine or watch, i aint lil wayne, just know that i feel like im the only one who is sane. because i AM NOT PERFECT, do not get the wrong message for that would hurt me, only He is, and He just wants some love from His Kids, but for some odd reason... we still choose to do the evil leeches bids, for i feel he has sucked to much from us, all of our blood, i mean soul, it has tucked from us, and right now He is aiming at it with a Big Ol' Blunderbuss. to shoot it and unleech it, from His Children's Soul's so one day maybe we can gaze upon, That Wonderful City Of Gold, and dont letit peak your in ter ests, for if you do your not getting whats bests, from this test that He has beset, for our minds to ponder and think on, maybe in some of the hearts out there this message is shining, for He is a Beacon of Light, to shine out all the evils, and end this ugly, hateful blight, that courses through our vains, that nasty garbage that makes us feel insane, because no one is living right, and for That NONE is sane. you can talk and sit there and chatter, but i pray and hope that none get fatter, and im not talking because of mcdonalds, im talking about your ego and pride, because We Alll NEED to push that aside, all we seem to do is breed hate and contempt, sitting there looking for another hurt sould to feed on, thinking it makes us content, but just know NOW people, lolol all your doing is letting the devil be your PIMP! ha ha ha i think that really funny, because in the words of man that just makes ya'll some ho's, and please forgive my trespasses my sisters and brothers, for my vulgar words, because i Did Not mean to hurt, He's just trying to keep our faces from being rubbed in the dirt. but it really shouldnt matter because we are mud, and from One we all came, so can i not call ya'll blood??? nah im not talking about them two glock shotta's, im talking bout from The One Who Has Always Got Us, not us as in the navy, i mean us as in the ones who might sit on that bus, the one going to school and to the ones who drool in class, and all of us who needs a kick in the, pause, ya'll know what i mean, im just sitting here trying not be obscene, all im trying to do is get the bigger picture, through ya'll minds so that maybe one day, we can All WALK IN THE LORDS WAY. forgive me if i make any of ya'll mad, if i do know that i Am sad, but how about ya'll just go to the store and go and grab on of them happy hefty bags, you know i meant glad if you didnt you are simple, and forgive me as i sit here and bust this pimple, lol sorry that was nasty just know that i didnt, and know that we are all fake, and its time for some rhino plasty, or however its spelled im just hoping some hearts will melt, like the plastic we are, and become melded into flesh, as i sit here and type in this Soul Food test, for if ya'll can't hear me then your hearts are so cold, forgive me as i trespass, because, uhm, i Am not trying to be bold, im just tryna through some fia atcha hearts, in the hopes that you may leave the Dark, ness not loch just in case thats watchu thought, all you gotta do is leave your flesh behind, and know that He is the one who Should Be Sought, out so we can drank From His Spout, cuz the Lord Knows, man it has been a drought. we are all so thirsty, but in order to be filled its The Lord who must come firsty x) just know that me and Him are going Stooopid, and for those who are real maaan i thoughtchu knew it. and if you dont i pray you haven't already blew it, up i mean your ego, like a balloon, just know right now i feel like taz boi, yup them looney toones, or tunes whichever you prefer, just know that He is Prefect, just without the err. and i say pre because He was always here, yes before you and me, but with Him i wanna letchu know that we can all be as pure, and as white as the snow, just like powder we can all be melted, i mean melded into the beings we were meant to be, so one day we may fly free as a dove, Right over the sea, so that we all can reach New Jerusalem, yup just right where we was all meant to be, that is the Golden City for those who did not, know, im just hoping that one day we can All be as pure as the snow, because the evil has taunted and flaunted and given us a show, to peak i mean perk up our ears and it, that leech i mean, gave us nothing but fears, fears of ourselves and one another, fears from our sisters and daughter, Father, and brothers, but we have a right to Fear the Living God, because to Him we have all become a sod, He is sorrowful and cries as we follow, the evil being, who was never meant to be followed, and i felt His pain at one point in time, yes i Am talking About the Divine, we both cried together, in my room, because of the little things we miss, something just as small as, a heartfelt kiss... for it is the little things that bring us the greatest joy, not some diamond chain, or a, wind up toy, the biggest thing of all that should, is His Love, should bring us the Greatest joy, in the world, for thats all it is man just cars and noise, all the long going our way, Missing the sweetest noise, zes ya'll know what i mean, im talking about the One who is Never obscene, for He is Just And Right, in each and every single way, and for our sins my borhters and sisters, we have to pay, but do not fret for it is never to late, I think we all need to call upon The Divine, and we should All go on a date, do not worry for on this date there is no rape, or murder, or hate, for that is of the devil, and Your Soul it will take, there is no worries once you follow Him, we should all be hand in hand as we walk down this path, called, life Never having to worry about no pain or strife, or for a bigger picture His Wrath, but ONLY IF WE DRINK FROM HIS PITCHER. for The All Powerful and Righteous Wrath, only comes when you stray from His Path, it is there to show us our wrongs...can you feel His Soul as i sit here and Sing His song? and with Him i will NEVER fall, because with my Brother, I will always Hear His Call. i say we but it is Him, who say these words to in the hopes, that those who have an Ear to listen may never Fall, into the Pit, all you have to do is have Faith, Follow The Ten, Believe, and never EVER Quit, for in order to gain His All Perfect and Good Graces, we have to eliminate ALL the Hate and evil, in all sorts of places, i have a feeling this song was wrote long before, just in His mind and now in mine, and i sing His song in the Hopes, that you follow Him and not any of these "popes" for no hope lies in them, lol and if you truly think aboutit that actually rhymed, just know that im thinking of Him, foremost, but ya'll too as i steadily write This Rhyme, it comes from above yup, Straight From the Divine, in the Hopes that one day ya'll can SEE, exactly it was that we was missing, so we can All fly over the sea. Man this thing is long but i should Say God, because this is His Rhyme, and not from a sod, like me or you, if you real you can feel its True, as His Sword aims at the hearts of His good, flying Straight and Through, lol i mean True, but them if you can follow my friend, all we gotta do is sing Praises and Thanksgiving to Him, until the very end, and give Him all of our love, Because WITHOUT HIM, ha There WOULD BE NO LOVE, all there would be is pain and suffering, and i hope that the ones who are, suffer, i mean acating, Might actually stop and take the time to sit there and be debating, against the devil of course, cuz all it wants to do is, lead us, right, or left, but straight off our course. Lord Please Forgive me, if i am being coarse just know that i am your back, and You Are My Horse, lol ya'll might think He's heavy but He's really not, and i Love Him till Death, i mean Life, cuz i have found It, but back to the point, because i HE HAS TAUGHT, never went to church or none of that, maybe when i was younger but none of that, for our minds our are churches, ha gotit backwards but i feel as tall as the burches, talking bout them trees man im over the seas man, just know i cant, wait, My Father, until You Kick Over My Can Man x) aw man i thoughit was funny, because he's One Cool Dude, and i am His, Bunny, i mean Collie, and know that as i, i mean He, but as i bark, that i have a Strong feeling, that i am playing my Part, or His i prefer the latter but the choice is yurs, because it is His Puzzle, and i am the last part, i cant be for certain because the Knowledge is His, but im just trying to bring His Black Sheep back, you know i mean His KIDS, He thoughtit was funny, But ya'll best Believe that He NOR i the first comes first, but neither one of us is No, pause, Dummy, lol but if you choose you can beat and bite, whatever you do just know it is out of spite, and i dont capitilize because its an evil word, just know me and HIM, are trying to end this wrongful blight, and saying these words i Hope that maybe, just maybe some can be given the Sight, that HE intended us to have, right, from Go, talking bout monopoly,lol but no no more, from the start maaaan all HE ever wanted was us to give our heart, which is HIS, because He gave to us, All that is HIS, HE just Wanted someone to talk to man, thats why HE made HIS Kids, HE was all alone, and then HE built, a Beautiful place for us, and HIM, to walk and talk all the while, just laughing and talking, seeing eachother smile =) because HE is our FATHER, He's not as mean ha as ya'll would believe, just know that HE TRULY IS ONE BENEVOLENT KING. lol ha ha i think this is funny, He knows what im talking about, cuz this is all of the top of the dome with barely a second to pause, Just Know the THE LION KING, Has Opened HIS Claws, Blessed be the children who took the time to listen, to the message that a, and The King is steadily dishin, i say a because i am one too, but know that im a servant, and from a Seed i did Grew, i dont care if it makes no sense to ya'll because i have heard the Lords Call, and they, they know who they are, are always listening, and as He types, through, me i have a feeling they are about to call, Prayer is the Best Wireless Connection X) aint no service down here got that type of Connection, i just hope that i get to see some of ya'll at that intersection, i mean Crossroads, bone thugz n harmony, they said it first, man thats the song man and if you feel their soul, then maybe you should hurt, because those bois on the streets back in the day, all they was doing was searching for some Peace, but in the streets, the oppressors, following the devil, have no love for us in the slums, just know that we All have a Holster and God Is our Gun, we dont need no metal, for The Lord our issues HE will settle, all you gotta do is Have some Faith, saying this in hope that some dont see any wraiths, talking demons people come now and please listen, as the Lord spits his song and these Words HE is dishin, out yup you getting it word of mouf, lol or mouth whichever you prefer just DONT follow that lowly snake, yup the one down south, it might try and offer pleasure and happiness butits all fake, HA what do ya'll expect from a lowly snake? remeber eve as she sat under that tree? sitting there thinking and feeling the breeze? the snake spoke in her Ear temptation it did bring, and after teel me WHO did she fear? she had a split second of happiness and thats all it can give, and after that she felt the WRATH which is ONLY HIS, lol i hope that ya'll see, the way we live people, it just wasn't meant to be, i have a feeling that there all up there laughing, with, not at me as i type out His message, and i pray ALMIGHTY FATHER, THE ONES WHO HAVE AN EAR TO LISTEN PLEASE FATHER PLEASE LET THE HEAR. and the ones who dont i pray you dont hit him hard, maybe just a little tap, just like Babe Ruth, on that baseball card x) Peace be with you my sisters and brothers, just know that HIS LOVE IS LIKE NO OTHER, GOD BLESS ALL WHO FINISHED, AND I PRAY YOUR SOULS NEVER, DIMINISH. ONE HEART IS ALL, AND WITH THAT HEART WE CAN NEVER FALL, lol i said i was finished, but i dont think HE is as you can tell this words are not mine, THEY COME FROM THE UPPER BEING, yup THE DIVINE!!! i think im going to cut Him short and please Forgive me, because i know HE could go all day, BECAUSE I CAN FEEL HIM IN ME. Side: No, it's a violent ideology
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