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Of course it is Let me burn in Hell forever
Debate Score:30
Arguments:69
Total Votes:31
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Is it Better to be a Christian?

Of course it is

Side Score: 14
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Let me burn in Hell forever

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Side: Of course it is
Antrim(1304) Clarified Banned
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BTW, I didn't give you a downvote.

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Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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Okay, thanks....but I really don't care about votes .

Side: Of course it is
Antrim(1304) Banned
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I don't want anything to do with a religion which has blackmail as it's main message.

Love the Lord Jesus Christ or roast in hell for eternity.

Worship the Lord jesus Christ in prayer, song and deed every day or roast in hell for eternity.

Islam brings hell on earth to the ''infidels', whereas Christianity promises a much more barbaric fate for non believers.

Are the weak minded followers of Christianity not simply giving lip service to their faith and playacting their role in an attempt to avoid ''burning in hell forever''?

If you were in a prison camp and were told by the guards that if you didn't do exactly as you were told and bowed to the Camp Commandant each time you saw him you would have boiling lead poured over your dick, I' sure you'd abide by the prison rules.

Side: Of course it is
jeffreyone(1270) Clarified Banned
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Excuse me. You dont understand christianity.

It says all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.

Which means men were already condemned to hell before christ came. Had christ not come, hell was default. There was no way you could dodge it.

But:

John 3:16 ►

Verse

New International Version

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish(roast in hell) but have eternal life.

Hell is default. And there is one jesus(salvation).

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father

except through me. ...

playacting their role in an attempt to avoid ''burning in hell forever''?

That is 80/100. God still values 20%.

Its not forceful unlike islam. Its just necessary.

You want to call lord kelvin, isaac newton etc. Weak minded because they were christians?

Side: Of course it is
Antrim(1304) Disputed Banned
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I know you're being scornful about the fantasies of the Christian Faith when you say that people have gone to hell for not abiding by the teachings of a religious doctrine which had not been introduced on earth.

Well, either that or you're certifiably mad.

Even geniuses can be sucked in, or, what is more likely, appear to be sucked in by the superstitious hocus pocus rants of a cruel and vindictive religious dogma.

Christianity is based on instilling fear into the ignorant masses ( now a dying breed, thus the decrease of the religion) through moral blackmail and threat of extreme, everlasting physical pain.

The preachers of such a hateful and violent religious tenet should be arrested and tried for preaching hate and extortion by threat of violence.

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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New International Version was crafted by a homosexual, it is not the Bible, take it somewhere else.....thank you.

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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NIV was created for homosexuals, it is not the Bible..............

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brontoraptor(20737) Disputed Banned
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That would be Now ASaint's message. The result is already in process. There is no blackmail. The message is, do you want out of the already caused damage or not. If one chooses "no", the consequences belong to the one who said "no". What those consequences literally are? No human knows.

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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You're a heretic, and I am commanded to reject you so you will always be banned from my debates/discussions if you post in them. Don't post and you won't be banned.

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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Please don't come to my discussions with your heretical statements.

Those who know God through Jesus Christ know by His word that the consequence of sin is eternal condemnation in the fire of Hell where the worm never dies and the fire is never quenched, and there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

If you do not know this, and you are a Christian which I doubt, you need to read your Bible more and start talking like you actually believe it is God's word.

Side: Of course it is
brontoraptor(20737) Disputed Banned
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Are the weak minded followers of Christianity not simply giving lip service to their faith and playacting their role in an attempt to avoid ''burning in hell forever

Hmmm... that atheist suicide rate must be the manifestation of "being strongminded".

Mankind chose hell. Christ offered a way out to anyone interested.

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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Go make your own debate, you are not welcome in mine......heretic

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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Mankind did not choose Hell. Man chose sin, Hell is the penalty for sin, it is eternal condemnation in the fire which forever consumes and contains sin, keeping it separate from the living.

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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Mankind did not choose Hell, man chose sin and the consequence of sin is eternal condemnation in the consuming and containing fire of Hell which will forever separate sin from the living.

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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He died for you, shed His blood for your sins, paid your price in death, took your place in death, and you insult Him. He will be your judge and the way you are talking, you will stand in front of Him with His blood caked on the bottom of His feet and you will die for your own sins in the fire of Hell.

It's justice. You want to pay your own price, you don't care that God paid for you with His own blood, so God won't care about your suffering when you are frying in Hell like an eternal sausage.

You don't care how He suffered for you, why should He care when you suffer alone for yourself?

Side: Of course it is
Antrim(1304) Banned
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Ah the idiot who likes to rewrite the Bible and refers to blackmail as a black male.

There are no bounds to the ingenuity or inventiveness of the religious zealot's embarrassing attempts to rationalize the teachings and ridiculous superstitious claptrap as shown in the scriptures of a multi-authored 2000 year old book.

Most people, including me realize that there is no point in trying to have a rational argument with religious zealots, Christian, Muslim or otherwise but occasionally it's good to draw such people out from the safety of their places of worship and challenge their eye-watering nonsense.

According to fools like you all non Christians including Muslims, Buddhists, Shinto followers, Jews, Sikhs and of course atheists are all going to have red hot pokers shoved up their arse ( figuratively speaking) for eternity.

Talking serpents, Noah's Ark, feeding 5000 people with 5 small barley loaves and two small fishes etc.

If anyone went onto a podium and preached such rubbish today they'd be withdrawn from society and committed to a secure institution for the insane.

Imagine you're out for a walk with your children and you come across someone spouting similar threats of violence to everyone who didn't believe the message which he/she was delivering. Would you not call the police or the men in white coats from the nearest psychiatric clinic.

Side: Of course it is
brontoraptor(20737) Disputed Banned
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Shall I address this or copy and paste....

1)Is an allegorical story for the fall of man.

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ The BiblicalAdamandEvestoryistoldasanallegory

2)One is an allegorically told story about the end of days.

http://biblehub.com/matthew/24-37.htm

http://swapmeetdave.com/Bible/Parables/

"feeding 5000 people with 5 small barley loaves and two small fishes etc."

You believe in abiogenesis and regeneration, and that our reality arose from nothing but cannot believe this is possible. That's odd.

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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Address it in your own debates. Thank you. .

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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The Genesis account is written as a literal account, if you think it is allegorical you are a heretic.......I have already shown repeatedly that you are a heretic.

Side: Of course it is
brontoraptor(20737) Disputed Banned
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imagine you're out for a walk with your children and you come across someone spouting similar threats of violence to everyone who didn't believe the message which he/she was delivering

Christians aren't threatening you with violence. Quit using overly emotional appeals.

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
brontoraptor(20737) Disputed Banned
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atheists are all going to have red hot pokers shoved up their arse ( figuratively speaking) for eternity

Nobody knows the final judgement of God on any given individual according to Himself.

Red hot pokers aren't mentioned in the Bibles. See? Atheist create and believe myths. Isn't that a daisy?

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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John 3:18

Condemnation is the final judgement of God on an individual who does not believe on Jesus Christ.........

“He that believeth on him (Jesus) is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”

Rev 20:14,15

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire

All who do not believe on Him are condemned. That is final. If they repent of their sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, they will be saved. I know most on this website are condemned. I hope they get saved but I doubt that they will.

Because you put your own words above the Bible and reject the Bible in so many ways, I do not believe you are saved, your teachings are heretical and I am commanded to reject you.

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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crude comments do not belong in my discussion, nor do people who entertain them.....nor do people who claim to be Christians and are heretics.

Side: Of course it is
brontoraptor(20737) Disputed Banned
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Ah the idiot who likes to rewrite the Bible

Says the guy convinced there are "red hot pokers" mentioned in the Bible...

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
brontoraptor(20737) Disputed Banned
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There are no bounds to the ingenuity or inventiveness of the religious zealot's embarrassing attempts

You believe that a magical nothing manifested reality from its magical nothingness. Ahem... anyone have a white coat?

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
Antrim(1304) Disputed Banned
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Glad I succeeded in achieving exactly what I had set out to do and that was to focus your otherwise wandering and tractable mind onto your usual and predictable attempts to defend the indefensible.

It's so easy, even too easy, to guide your malleable mind in any direction I so desire.

In the meantime I've had a pleasant walk in the Botanical Gardens followed by a delicious meal and a bit of jovial craic with friends at the Albany on the Lisburn Road, Belfast and all the while you let yourself be manipulated by taking my bait and fanatically trying enormous mounds of bullshit about a religion based on Adam & Eve, and it's scriptures which calls for the ''killing of every male among the little ones, and every woman who has known man intimately.

But save the girls who have not known man for yourselves.

NUMBERS 31:17-18.

''You may purchase male or female slaves from the foreigners who live among you and treat them as your own property who can be passed onto your children as a permanent inheritance.

Leviticus 25:44:46.

Why, I bet I could have you typing, cutting and pasting bullshit until pancake Tuesday.

Hallelujah brother, hallelujah, pass the collection plate around.

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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why don't you go call the police and tell them that Christians are preaching the Bible message and they need to be put in jail?

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NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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banned for your crude comments about pokers. .

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I am on the winning side.................................................................

I am on the winning side
Side: Of course it is
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Your religion makes you no better than anyone else. There are Muslims that are better than Jews, there are atheists that are better than Buddhists, there are Hindus that are better than Christians, and there are Christians that are better than Taoists. Your religion does not constitute you as better than another person, your actions do.

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
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Hello S:

Welcome to the site..

ACTIONS count! BELIEFS don't!

You said it BETTER than I did..

excon

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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You are posting on the correct side. Of course actions count......you act according to your beliefs in any given moment. You believe it is good and or/excusable to cloud your brain with weed and live in a warped reality, so you cloud your brain with weed. God will judge you for your actions.

It is better to be a Christian, because your beliefs will inspire you to live righteously to honor the Savior who died for you to save you from Hell........the One who will save all who believe on Him.

Your actions are in pride, refusing to believe God came down from Heaven and died for you so that you can live through Him in His resurrection. God is against your pride, and all of what you think is your righteousness in the sight of God is filthy rags fit for the flaming garbage pit of Hell. You do not deserve to live, and that is why you cannot live except by God giving you life.......and you refuse the gift of God fooling yourself into thinking you have the right to live outside of the fire of Hell in your sins. You need to be saved, but I doubt that you will be saved because you are too proud to admit you do not deserve to live, do not deserve any thing good, deserve nothing but the fire of Hell.

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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It's better to be a Christian because all things work together for good to those who love God.

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NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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Your actions do not make you better than another person. Let's pretend that you are a good law abiding citizen, not a sodomite or any other kind of fornicating pervert, an all around good guy loyal to his friends and family who likewise are law abiding citizens. Yet you still die as a dog, you still do not deserve to live, you are not better than a cereal killer except that your restraint helps to restrain the evils of others who have not quite gone off the deep end as far as a serial killer. The truth of the matter is there is none good, we all deserve to die and burn in Hell. It is better to be a Christian because a real Christian knows their sins are forgiven and heaven is their home.......and knowing such results in a progressive change which culminates in being forever free of sin's destructive devices, forever to be changed to a child of God like Jesus, full of love, joy, and peace knowing and honoring the One who created us and gave Himself for us when He died in our place, paid our price so we can be spared from paying in Hell and forever show in Heaven the glory and goodness of the one who created us.

It's better to be a Christian. Your religion is taking you to Hell. You need to be saved.

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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All things work together for good to those who love God and know His name is Jesus Christ. That is why it is better to be a Christian.

Side: Of course it is
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Although I don't want to "burn in Hell forever" there is no objectively best religion as there is no proof for any of them. If there were solid, concrete proof then everyone would be Christian, or Muslim, or Buddhist, etc.

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
jeffreyone(1270) Clarified Banned
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Where have you asked, or knocked, or seeked?

You're in a room with a roof over your head, closed windows and you complain you cannot see the stars(sun),.

Side: Of course it is
Antrim(1304) Disputed Banned
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A very poor analogy.

If Blue-fang wished to see the stars/sun all he has to do is walk outside his home, look up and on a clear night/day there are the celestial bodies in all their blazing glory.

Not so easy to see the man made mythical God, any God.

BTW, sought would have been a better word than seeked.

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NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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Jesus Christ is a person, He is God, He is not a religion. You are practicing a religion in which you believe you are justified to exist outside of the fire of Hell.

You want solid concrete proof? Well, fire is not concrete, but it will prove that you do not have the right as a sinner to exist outside of Hell if that is the only way you will believe it...and even when you are frying like an eternal sausage you probably still will believe you have the right to exist outside of the fire of Hell...but your belief won't get you out.

You need to be saved, you can be saved, I hope you get saved but the way you talk, I have to believe you will wake up in Hell unable to get out of the fire.

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NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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The truth is not a religion, it is reality, you are on the losing side......................................

I AM ON THE WINNING SIDE

I AM ON THE WINNING SIDE
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NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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You would rather burn in Hell forever than to have God tell you what you should or should not do......and God will let you have your desire.

Side: Of course it is
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I'd perhaps answer the question more accurately, but since you're too scared to read anything I write (I doubt you could muster up enough strngth to read this far) and would thus ban me anyway, anyone who thinks that it is can land on my debates.

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
Antrim(1304) Clarified Banned
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Now you're feeling sorry for yourself and trying to pass the blame for your pitiful parallel with the very tangible existence of the visible universe and some nonexistent God onto me.

How pathetic.

I've never banned anyone from any of my debates/arguments.

You have really betrayed yourself as a solid 22 carat gold idiot by suggesting that I'm ''too scared'' to read anything you write.

You were not answering me, you were responding to Blue Fang, remember? Do try to keep up old bean.

You've sidestepped the issue by trying to change the thrust of the thread away from being a Christian to me being frightened to read your drivel.

Man, man oh man.

Side: Of course it is
JatinNagpal(2678) Disputed Banned
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Though I'll certainly be banned here, it won't be you to do that.

That's all the hint you're getting.

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NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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You have made several serious threats to do great bodily harm including murder against myself and many others and you are not welcome in my threads, I have no further interest in your comments other than to respond pointing out your psychosis and the danger you boast of being against society.

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I didn't know Chris Christie was a minister ..........................

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NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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I don't think anybody here cares about your opinion.......I don't even want to read your post....wino

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NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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One trait of winos is that they will tell you that their habit is not enough to qualify them as being a wino.

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Hello:

Nahhh... It's better to be a Jew.. Here's why..

In order to BE a Christian in good standing, you have to BELIEVE.. In order to BE a Jew in good standing, you have to ACT.

excon

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NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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The problem with acting is that you cannot act good enough to live. You need to be saved.

Side: Of course it is
AlofRI(1850) Banned
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To "burn" is to be consumed. When the fuel runs out there is nothing left but ash and gases. How can I burn forever?? Are we some sort of "perpetual fuel"? Burning in hell is just another religious myth, an impossibility in an imaginary place. I would have to be a hypocrite to worry about it .... unless the flying spaghetti monster or some legitimate "god" shows up and proves s/he/it to be the actual creator of mankind, animals, insects, fishes, planets, air, water, fire and of course conservatives. I don't see anything to support THIS view. We haven't found hell, though we've dug or bored very deep, we haven't found heaven, though we've sent probes far out into space. We haven't seen or heard from "GOD", I guess, since some guy found a bush burning and called it such ... allegedly. So, I simply want some REASONABLE proof that the book published by man really has an author and it is not just another piece of propaganda, written to get people to live by ways controllable by the chosen ones who appoint themselves the "messengers of GOD". (Or a "saint".) It's nice work if you can get it.

Side: Let me burn in Hell forever
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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You're nasty. I got tired of you a long time ago, I don't want to see your comments in my threads

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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You're going to find out how you can burn forever, aren't you? ?

Side: Of course it is
NowASaint(1389) Clarified
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It's better to be a Christian. You don't understand that because you are content being a hopelessly dying sinner........or maybe you are not content but you enjoy it.

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Cocopops(2) Disputed
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Ah ha, You're forgetting something very important.

The Health and Safety Executive have passed legislation requiring the Devil to install an easy to follow fire escape system in Hell along with an effective sprinkler system.

So, it looks like the torture by fire threat has been annulled.

What is to become of the Christian Faith now?

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