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Debate Score:56
Arguments:28
Total Votes:67
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Is it too early to tag Obama as the best or worst president in US History?

YES

Side Score: 42
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Side Score: 14
4 points

Absolutely, YES! We still don't know how the financial crisis will play out, Iraq and Afghanistan are still unresolved and no major legislation has been passed (i.e. Health, Climate).

I still have faith but its way, way to early to make the call on best or worst in history. Some historians say that the legacy of a president isn't formed until many years after the president leaves office.

Side: yes

Without a doubt, YES!!! He's only been in office 6 months after all. His best lies ahead of him and he's started the ball rolling on many projects. I did not take the fact that he bowed to another head of state as a sign of weakness...I took it as a deep sign of respect for the foreign head. I see nothing whatever wrong with that and everything right with it. Arrogance will not solve our purpose at all but resolve will and that is something he has in abundance.

Let us not judge him this early in his presidency...it too serves no purpose. Allow history still to come to write his successes and his failures as president.

Side: yes
jafl(80) Disputed
0 points

Has Barak Hussein Obama bowed to the Queen of the United Kingdom? Has he bowed to the President of France or the Kanzlerin of Germany?

And you don’t get it any more than Barak Hussein Obama does. If you are President of the United States you owe allegiance to the United States and only the United States. You shake hands with foreign heads of state, you do not bow to them.

BTW: What would Barak Hussein Obama have to do or fail to do for you to conclude that his is a failed presidency?

Side: No
DEL681651(68) Disputed
2 points

It is not traditional to bow to European heads of state. Bowing in the islamic world is a traditional gesture of respect, just like shaking someone's hand. It's not a big deal, seriously.

Side: yes
1 point

First off, my good fellow, it seems you've got a very warped sense of what democracy is, what Obama is doing in the White House, what kind of pressure he's under, and how he's acting under it. It seems you haven't got the slightest idea what you're talking about, so just shut your mouth before you embarrass yourself further. Also, just a side note. Barack is spelled B-A-R-A-C-K. Not B-A-R-A-K. Learn how to type before you begin using the internet to back up your arguments.

Side: yes
3 points

It's also too early to just rate him as average.

Seriously, there's no possible way to decide this yet. anything could happen.

And really, how's he going to top Lincoln?

Side: yes
2 points

Even though I'm not his biggest fan, there are still 3 and a half years left in his term (hopefully that's all. :p) It's entirely possible that this time will be filled with bad decisions making him the worst president or great decisions making him the best president.

Side: yes
1 point

Uh, yea. To tag him as the best or worst so far would be really premature judgment. He's still got at LEAST 3 1/2 more years left to kick ass...

Side: yes
1 point

Of course! He's only been president for 6 months! Whether or not he's making choices that we consider wise, whether or not he's upholding the principles that we might agree with, those are things that can be measured at this point. But whether he is the best or worst in history, or even whether or not he is a good one, is something that we will mostly see through time.

Side: yes

I say we wait a while longer and then tag him as the worst president in US History ;)

Side: yes
ddjxie(58) Disputed
2 points

I say we wait a while longer and then tag him according to his performance relative to every other US president in history ;)

Side: yes
1 point

I agree that it is too early to tell. Despite are the formations of tea parties and we the people, that is a coverup for angry Republicans. Obama has only been President for a short time and still has a lot of work ahead of him. Give the guy a break and let him try to do something about our situation.

Side: yes

Yes, these things can only be decided in hindsight. Not to mention this is an opinion so people on different sides of the spectrum will see it through their own lenses.

Side: yes
1 point

Are you guys nuts? How can one determine such a matter after seven months?

The vast majority of American Presidents have been total, forgettable nonetities. Who outside of an American High School (or likely in it) has heard of Arthur, Pierce or Tyler?

No modern (post 1950) American President can be either superlative or a total disaster--the machine of government keeps them going. Carter had a more complicated time than Harding, but was no more ineffectual. Kennedy has been raised to sainthood but we know now that he was a skirt-chasing, dishonest drug addict who had a good team to keep him under control. Nixon is the one (pun) who really deserves the credit for ending the cold war--had he not been hounded from office the USSR may have collapsed a decade earlier--crook and psychotic though he may have been. Truman was reviled when he left office, but history must put him up in the top five. Eisenhower was considered a dolt, but the slow release of information shows that he was singularly adept at managing the loonies in the US government. George Bush pere and Clinton may yet be blamed for allowing the growth of International terrorism.

Obama has plenty of time to screw up--or not.

Side: yes
2 points

What?, it's not like he's going to turn into Reagan all of the sudden.

We can't afford to keep this guy we need to vote him out. Money printing buffoon. Our grand kids will be paying this off.

Romney 2012!

Side: still has time to redeem himself
jessald(1915) Disputed
1 point

Printing money is an important tool in managing the economy. It lowers unemployment in the short run and can be a good way of breaking the downward spiral in a recession. It also allows the government to deal with emergencies like the recent financial crisis.

The downside is it leads to inflation.

So obviously we need to strike a balance, but implying that printing money is always bad just makes you sound like... well, a buffoon.

Side: yes
1 point

"but implying that printing money is always bad just makes you sound like... well, a buffoon."

...tooshay

Side: No
1 point

Kinda like how we're still paying off the debt made by Reagan and his deficit spending ilk.

Side: yes
1 point

Ah, I'm not taking the Reagan bate.

Not that history isn't important, it's just I haven't studied up on the Reagan administration lately. I'm sure you will enlighten me though, even if it is one sided.

But I can tell you that spending is not the best thing to do right now of all times, and that's the point. Wouldn't you say?

Side: No

It is now 2015 and President Obama will go down in history books as one of the best Presidents.

Side: NO
0 points

Obama bowed to a foreign head of state. He has no concept about what his job is or what he is supposed to represent. This makes him the more dangerous than any other person to ever sit in the White House. He cannot help but fail and do so in the most extraordinary fashion.

Side: No
DEL681651(68) Disputed
3 points

Wait wait wait. By giving a traditional gesture of respect, he's the worst president ever? How does that even approach making sense? How is that damaging in the least bit, why does it even matter?

Side: yes
jessald(1915) Disputed
1 point

Oh, stfu. It doesn't matter if Obama bows to the entire world, as long he gets the economy back and doesn't get us involved in any more bs wars.

Besides, Bush kissed the same guy.

Side: yes
jafl(80) Disputed
2 points

Your insulting tone and use of profanity have ended my presence here. If Obma has the likes of you as his supporters, he is in worse shape than I thought.

Side: No
2 points

Kiss is really just custom. Hell, aristocrats in America do the same.

Bowing is something a peasant does for the guy. Obama just got confused, though. I don't see the big deal.

Side: yes