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Debate Score:261
Arguments:106
Total Votes:355
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Is life believing in God worth it

Is believing in God truly worth it in life does it have actual benifits

yes it is

Side Score: 126
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no its not

Side Score: 135
7 points

If "it" is used properly it could either mean, life or believing in God.

So there are two different questions here...

> Is life spent believing in God worth the belief in God?

or

> Is life spent believing in God worth life?

I'll stick with the latter...

This is a value comparison essentially between a persons life, where they do believe, and a person's life where they don't believe.

There is no way to qualitatively measure the worth of someone's life without factoring in happiness and suffering. Would the person with no belief in God suffer less than the person with faith? Would the person with no faith be happier, over all? I don't think the question can be answered.

No matter which way you look at it, though, it's life, and there's nothing greater than life... Life with or without the belief in a god is still life. Anything beyond that is a value comparison with no way to evaluate each way of life, so if your argument lays claim to any idea of a life or life style's value it becomes about as valid as you see the belief in God.

Side: Yes it is
4 points

sure is, if thats what gets you through the night ;)

Side: Yes it is
3 points

So here's the situation: You live a life of sex, drugs, and partying (rock n' roll is not a sin). You continue to live without God. You die. Now what? You rot in the ground? What do you have to live for then? What would be the meaning of life to you?

Side: Yes it is
xaeon(1090) Disputed
8 points

Why does life have to have an absolute meaning? I ingrain meaning into my life through those around me and my actions, not the hope that once I die there will be another chance at living a life that I'm already currently living.

This life is perfectly good enough for me, thanks. Once I die, I'm gone, and knowing that makes the life I have now even more special.

Side: no its not
MKIced(2482) Disputed
1 point

Then that doesn't answer any questions. Why was life put on Earth? Why does Earth even exist? Wouldn't it make sense to believe in God: He put life on Earth, either directly or indirectly(I'm not getting into that), so that we could live life in order to return to Him. Life is like a trial period. God wants to know how we can act with free will, sin, and detachment from pure good.

Side: Yes it is
Warlin(1213) Disputed
2 points

I don't know if life is created from some god or if I'm just a random spawn of the universe, but life is a gift either way. The only meaning life has is the meaning you give it. Before you die, accomplish that meaning. We're born, we live, we die. The beginning and the end don't matter. It's the middle that makes life beautiful.

Side: no its not
Bradf0rd(1425) Disputed
2 points

Let's play your game, shall we...

>So here's the situation:

->You live a life of:

--> sex

--> drugs

--> partying

Alright...

-> You continue to live without God

Alright...

-> You die.

Ok.

-> Now what?

According to observation, the body decomposes.

You rot in the ground?

It depends on where you put the body, I guess, or where you die. Most people don't die in the ground.

What do you have to live for then?

Nothing, you just made me assume that I'm dead. Part of living for something is being alive. Dead things aren't alive, it's part of it's definition.

What would be the meaning of life for you?

Dead things cannot know the meaning of anything, because they are not conscious. The question wouldn't be applicable to me either though, because you address me as "you", which is the way you would address a conscious being that is aware of itself as a component of it's environment. In fact, it's odd but you've been calling "you" since my death as though I was still alive, even though you were the one that claimed I was dead.

Is it our fault that you assume a dead body possesses the capability to answer questions?

;P

In all seriousness though, you're asking the wrong questions. When you come to a middle ground for discussion you should be ready enough to know that there are answers that are unlike your own. This isn't a place for you to preach to everyone.

Side: Yes it is
HGrey87(750) Disputed
1 point

Don't you think it's a little more in line with Occam's Razor to live life for its own sake rather than the POSSIBILITY that there is something after? You sound like one of those people who watch the scoreboard more than the game itself.

Side: no its not
MKIced(2482) Disputed
1 point

Well I think while we are on Earth, we should enjoy our time here. However, this does not mean go crazy and forget about the end. There has to be a nice balance between the two. Watch the game and enjoy it, but glance over at the scoreboard every once in a while.

Side: Yes it is
3 points

Yes I think believing in god is worth it because he make the world

Side: Yes it is

Yes because it helps you accept your life (it's God's will. He has a better plan for your life than you. Have faith in him.) If you accept your life, you wont be all pissed off and your heart would be better off because of that and you should thus live longer.

Side: Yes it is
3 points

I might get hazed for this, but what the hell~

Faith is hope. Even if it may or may not be false hope.

For those who have been dealt a bad hand and have nothing to cling on to but dirty old rags and bread crumbs, sometimes the only thing that gets them up in the morning is believing that something is out there that cares for them.

For the rest of us, maybe not so much.

Side: Yes it is

Listen, folks, this debate was not really worded very well. Life is worth it no matter what people believe. If they believe in God, fine! Let them believe. If they don't, fine! What does it matter? Why should this matter to anybody? Life is worth living pretty much anytime.

Side: Yes it is

I agree with your rebuttal JB. It makes so much sense. Even though I am a believer in God and my life has been worth living, I don't often think that God has His eye on me personally. If, at my end, I find there is or isn't a God, my life will have had the structure of a Christian belief system and the benefit of living for life itself with no particular end.

Side: Yes it is
2 points

Well again atheists are going to go the ' logical ' way and believers will go in the route of ' faith '. I myself am a believer so my standing on this issue would be believing in God. The opposing side will be non believers this side will be believers. I mean these debates are so redundent. 1 after the other.

Side: Yes it is
Bradf0rd(1425) Disputed
4 points

I'm one of those 'logical' atheist...

Side: Yes it is
DaWolfman(3321) Disputed
2 points

so congratulations I said nothing durogatory towards atheists or believers did I ? I stated my opinion thats like me saying there are white people and black people and a white guy says ' I'm one of those ' white ' people ' what do you want bradford a cookie?

Side: Yes it is
2 points

science has proven that people who have some belief in a diety or higher being live longer, healthier lives, and are more likely to survive a tradgedy (such as an unexpected death, or fatal disease). The study cant tell if in the end what the person believes is actually true, but that doesn't apply in this case; just the simple belief that there is more to life than living and dying is enough to make a life more enjoyable.

Side: Yes it is
p6667(66) Disputed
3 points

Ha! Bull

It's exactly the opposite. Statistical motherloads, like Eurostat and UN show that the most secular countries, like Sweden, Norway, and Denmark, to name a few, are rated with the highest quality of life. This index includes factors like Life Expectancy, Social Welfare, Education, and Infant Mortality btw.

Whereas for Bolivia, Colombia, Paraguay, and a handful of African countries......

Side: no its not
coffee91(1) Disputed
1 point

in statistics a correlation doesn't necessarily mean a causal relationship, that means not believing in God does not necessarily result in better living conditions, probably those countries with less ideal living conditions have a higher rate in believing in God because they need hope, rather than believing in God results in bad living conditions

Side: yes it is
iamdavidh(4870) Disputed
1 point

I'm afraid you are going to have to come up for a link to this fish tail.

1. There are hardly enough atheists concentrated in any area to make any kind of accurate sumation of such magical events as the number who "survive" a tragedy such as unexpected death - as you put it.

My guess is the number of people who survive tragedies such as unexpected death are pretty much the same regardless, them being dead I don't believe there are survivors of any faith.

2. Sounds like the typical religious bs released to ye faithful to trick more of the ignorant into your flock, so again, I want to see the source... my guess is christiannews.com or some other such nonsense.

Side: no its not
2 points

look i for 1 believe that there is a god but i think that all the gods are the same 1 depicted in different ways.

1.now lets say god is not real ok? and some 1 goes around preaching his name and helping people and giving people hope he is still a good person and will go were every 1 else goes in the end,

2.if god is real and he dose the man / woman dose the same they go to a nice place and get rewarded.

and in point "1" if that man did not believe in god he would probably not of done those lovely things and helped the world for the better and the only bad thing he would pf done would be talking to himself a few times a day.

also lets face it the Cristian view of death is much nicer than the atheist, and it helps people move on when there family dies, so i think beveling in god any god is better than not beveling at all.

Side: Yes it is
2 points

I think so. It is always good to have someone we call God in our life. 'Refrains you from all those stupid things, that in the end you know, it wont bring any good in your life. It is also better to live the life He leads. We all are entitled to have our own beliefs and nasty things, that's one of his gifts for us Free will and I have also tried all those things that are considered evil and useless. But eventually I get tired of it. It is not worth it really. So I bring back my faith and start believing in God again. Believing in Him makes me a better person. Or that is just I want to believe. But really, I never have experience before this contentment I'm feeling now and I want to believe that it is because of my faith and belief of Him.

Side: Yes it is
2 points

Its sad that the (no its not side) is winning, God has made such a great impact on my life IT iS WORTH BELIVING IN HIM!Are people these days really doubting the belief that there is someone who is more superior than our selves? The world didnt make its self, and no big bang theorie put the world in the most perfect conditions to where we benefit to every little thing in it. have you ever thought about the structure of a human being, who are you gonna say put that together, the big bang? Those scientist and their predictions, they aren't nothing but human beings just as confused as me and you. Humans have the natural tendacy to be curious, so we come up with answer for everything. This is sad, people you need to believe that there is a god. Im not good at making people believers and i really wish i could pursuade you, because through my eyes there is no other reasonable way other than a god that made this world what it is.

Side: Yes it is

yes it is. even if you think we came from different origins,why should we tempt it? and besides, you get to go to heaven if god is real. (provided you were faithful) what do you get with atheism or evolution? you rot in the ground. fun. whats the point in living if you wont get any perks after?

Side: Yes it is
2 points

it is worth it... god gives you hope of everlasting life and you don't just rot in the ground nothing after you know all that jazz you say there is a thing called resurection people!

Side: Yes it is
2 points

In my point of view it is. yes we may not see God but i dont think life was just an accident, I view life as a test that we either fail or win. The consequence of failing the test, breaking the rules or just trying to cheat our way out is eternity in hell. The treasure of suffering, going through stumbles and believing without seeing but by living by faith results in eternal life in heaven, by trustong God when things seem unreasonable or like a joke we show God just how much we really want to get to be with him by paying the price which is being viewed as a weirdo and being disliked by others for his cause

Side: Yes it is
1 point

there are only for possible out comes

1.there is no God and You don't believe

2.there is a God and you don't believe

3.there is no God And you believe

4.there is a God and you believe

well if #1 is right no harm no fowl

if #2 then you end up lost or punished for your non-belief not a very benificial circumstance

if its #3 then you'll live a good life help the world and die with people saying you were a good person

if its #4 then you live like #3 but your rewarded after death and are happy which is benificial

so after that even if there is no God believing would have the most benifit since you wouldn't have trouble with the laws or drugs or other teachings of your religion you can't get hurt for being spirutual or a religious person except where you are persucuted for your beliefs

Side: Yes it is
4 points

So your argument is, "believe in God just in case he's real"?

What if you believe in the wrong God? What if the Romans were right about their Gods? What if the Hindus are right about there Gods? How about Buddhism? Or the Egyptian Gods? How about the Mayan gods? Or the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

What if you don't believe in God but are still a good person? Is God really so self centered as to make belief in him the only stipulation in getting into heaven?

What if you've never even heard of God?

What if you believe in God, but are also a complete asshole?

so after that even if there is no God believing would have the most benifit since you wouldn't have trouble with the laws or drugs or other teachings of your religion

Believing in God makes you above the law? Or are you saying that belief in God makes you follow the law better? The former is just plain stupid, and the latter is presumptuous.

Side: no its not
Messenger(39) Disputed
2 points

Hey "Hostile"—How's it going? Very well, I hope.

You're absolutely right on your first point. You can't believe in God "just in case"... He won't be mocked or fooled.

Gosh, I'd hate to worship a flying spaghetti monster, wouldn't you? All that sauce... Oye. Your faith in God wouldn't be wrong, believe me. The Holy Bible is not based on evidence but is backed by evidence, and is an historic book of eyewitness testimonies and fulfilled prophecies and is based on reason. Hinduism and Buddhism, are based on an experiential enjoyment or satisfaction with the text or gods they offer. They do not point to a consistent creator or faith. This is why faith in Egyptian and Mayan gods passed away. Islam took its text from the Bible, said "Jesus is great, but He's not God" (an illogical argument), "we like Mohammed better" and altered it to suit themselves, something strictly forbidden by the very Bible they took from? Therefore, Mohammed was a false prophet. And Judaism is where Christianity stems from—the two are forever tied to one another.

How can one be truly good and deny the creator of his very life? How can God be selfish if He gave you life? Selfishness to me, seems to be the one who lacks respect or gratitude to the one who gives him everything. Would your mother be considered self-centered if you disowned her and wouldn't acknowledge her existence but still had the audacity to want to use her house?

God makes Himself known to all—through eyewitness testimony, His word (which has been distributed to just about every tribe, nation, and culture in the world through missionaries for just this purpose), through revelation, through testimony, and through dreams and visions and miracles... All will be shown a way to Him.

If one believes in Him, and is an "_sshole"—then that person either needs to get help from a pastor or psychologist, or ask his/herself if he/she TRULY believes. If one wants to, they can repent. If one prefers being an "_sshole," then that person has made his/her choice.

Believing in God does help you follow "the rules" better if one is actually following Christ's example, but people do fall short, and all men, not just unbelievers, are guilty of sinning.

Side: Yes it is
1 point

Hey check out this link, I don't know if this will mean anything to you but my religion(the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints) answers all of those questions you asked.

Please don't make fun of it, don't ask me if I'm joking, try to look at it with an open mind.

Supporting Evidence: Plan Of Salvation (lds.about.com)
Side: no its not
nyongo(21) Disputed
1 point

You know what, despite whatever religion you choose i just think it is important to know that their is a [most high] doesn't matter who are how people want to refer to him i just think it is important that they know that a superior other than [man] exist. and then the thing of being good if you don't believe in god, that is bad because it is pride and no matter what pride kills. God is not self-centered it is the same thing as when you have created a great work of art for someone to use in their museum and they claim it as their own without them saying thank you or achknoledging you for creating that work that gave them money. do you get it?

Side: yes it is
0 points

Buddhist believe "it is what it is"...

otherwise, yeah.

but, even if God isn't self-centered, i wouldn't expect assholes like Richard Dawkins to get into heaven.

Side: no its not
HGrey87(750) Disputed
1 point

I can only hope that if there is a God, he judges you on the ethics of your actions, not on whether you join his creepy, misguided cult. Plus, good non-believers are more moral in principle than those who are good only for the threat of punishment.

Side: no its not
Messenger(39) Disputed
1 point

There is. And every knee will bow before Him for judgment. Those who believe in Him will be judged differently than those who don't. When I pray to God, He in fact sees Jesus Christ standing in for me. He will see Jesus' blood. Jesus will then judge my deeds in terms of rewards after I pass—some shall receive many rewards, some shall receive fewer, but all will be saved. Unbelievers, if persistent in their unbelief and unrepentant, will not see God. That is their final judgment. It's funny that atheists claim this as punishment (which is how I, a believer, do see it), but for the atheist, this is exactly what they want—they don't want or have any need of a "God," so why would they care if they're eternally separated from Him (which is what Hell actually is)? God gives them what they want.

Plus a note: What is "good" to mankind is not the same as what is "good" to God. He's so good and so loving and so pure and so wise and so powerful, our best efforts at even trying to attain these things are "but filthy rags to Him." The only way He can look upon us is if He sees His son in our place, since His son is, was, and will always be, not just good, but perfection. Non-believers can do "good" or "nice" things—this does not make them unspoiled, perfect, obedient, or ample in true goodness. And, as I've said, believers, too, can be nice and charitable and whatnot, but without a genuine faith in Christ, this does not make them good.

Side: Yes it is
1 point

Without reading any other arguments, I posted this too. haha. It's called Paschal's Wager. And although it's not the best way to think about believing in God, it's a start for nonbelievers.

Side: Yes it is
1 point

Pascal's wager means nothing. It is neither intelligent or moral to believe in something just because you can't do something that is impossible, prove a negative.

"To talk of immaterial existences is to talk of nothings. To say that the human soul, angels, god, are immaterial, is to say they are nothings, or that there is no god, no angels, no soul. I cannot reason otherwise: but I believe I am supported in my creed of materialism by Locke, Tracy, and Stewart. At what age of the Christian church this heresy of immaterialism, this masked atheism, crept in, I do not know. But heresy it certainly is."

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, Aug. 15, 1820

Side: no its not
Warlin(1213) Disputed
1 point

Perhaps believing just for the benefits is a sin all on it's own. Should then, you be rewarded for your faith? The key to the kingdom of heaven cannot be obtained should it be coveted.

Side: no its not
Messenger(39) Disputed
0 points

Well, first, to answer your question: Yes, believing in God is worth it. But you must know, that faith in God does not mean that you are perfect, or that you will be considered "good" by people (in fact, many will despise you and call you intolerant out of their intolerance), or that your life will somehow be void of suffering or the traps of sin and temptations of life. It's not easy sometimes, but is most definitely worth it.

The benefits are: You are adopted into the family of God and our now considered His child. How awesome is that?! It's one thing to have cool parents on earth or wealth or great friends—but these shall all pass away or come and go. He—GOD (think about that)—will always be with me and for me, no matter what trials I go through in this life! Secondly, by accepting His son as our Savior we are instilled with the Holy Spirit, which then guides us when we don't know what to do, convicts us when we're wrong so we will know truth from lies, and transforms us to be the kind of person we all really want to be but could never seem to do or be on our own, like His son, Jesus. But you can't believe "just in case" or "even if there is no God"—that would actually be unbelief, besides God won't be fooled or mocked. One must truly believe in Him to receive the benefits. Oh and I forgot a biggie: we get to live eternally with Him and Jesus and all the other saints in Heaven after we pass!

Side: no its not
iamdavidh(4870) Disputed
0 points

Well, first, to answer your question: Yes, believing in God is worth it. But you must know, that faith in God does not mean that you are perfect, or that you will be considered "good" by people (in fact, many will despise you and call you intolerant out of their intolerance), or that your life will somehow be void of suffering or the traps of sin and temptations of life. It's not easy sometimes, but is most definitely worth it.

So basically the only difference is in your head...

The benefits are: You are adopted into the family of God and our now considered His child. How awesome is that?!

It's not, at all, seems kinda lame actually. Do you have any solid examples of actual things that make it "awsome?"

Secondly, by accepting His son as our Savior we are instilled with the Holy Spirit, which then guides us when we don't know what to do, convicts us when we're wrong so we will know truth from lies, and transforms us to be the kind of person we all really want to be but could never seem to do or be on our own, like His son, Jesus.

Hm, interesting, this holy spirit you are instilled with, is there some way to measure this? Or is it just in your head again? And "like His son, Jesus," so what, I get nailed to a cross, tortured, killed, and millions after me will die in my name, and people will kill people who don't believe in me? SWEET! Where do I sign up. (that's sarcasm)

Oh and I forgot a biggie: we get to live eternally with Him and Jesus and all the other saints in Heaven after we pass!

Yeah? Pretending for a second that this wacky fairy tale is true, what the hell is so cool about living for eternity with a bunch of people that never did anything fun ever? Like, what do you do all day? Sounds retarded to me. No thanks.

Side: no its not
1 point

Think of it this way:

Everybody has a god(they just don't always call it that)

My God is my father in heaven.

What God(whatever makes life worth living to you) do you have?

T.V.?

Football?

Science?

Money?

The Internet?

Family?

Side: what is your god
SirFrancis Disputed
1 point

god –(noun)- Supreme Being, the creator and ruler of the universe.

It doesnt say that god is whatever makes life worth living for to an individual. check it yourself in a dictionary! I promise Im not lying. God is a deity; not tv, internet, or anything you listed.

Side: no its not
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

I know what the definition is, I was just trying to present this from another angle.

Hence: "Think of it this way"

Side: Yes it is
1 point

It's called Paschal's Wager. Let's say you live a religious/moral life, then there are four results:

1. You believe in God. He exists. You get to go to Heaven!

2. You believe in God. He doesn't exist. Nothing happens(rot in ground).

3. You don't believe in God. He doesn't exist. Nothing happens(rot in ground).

4.You don't believe in God. He does exist. You go to Hell. Eternal suffering! Yeah!

Therefore, wouldn't your odds on the afterlife be better if you DO believe in God?

Side: Yes it is
xaeon(1090) Disputed
4 points

Why do people continue to bring up Pascal's Wager?

Firstly, it completely ignores the fact that there is an infinite set of possibile gods, and therefore the chance of you believing in the right one is infinitesimally small.

Secondly, it doesn't explore the possibility that the god that does exist either doesn't want you to believe in him, or punishes people who believed in the wrong god more than he does people who simply didn't believe in any god.

Thirdly, it assumes that god is an idiot and can't tell the difference between people who actually believe, and people who are believing just incase.

Living by Pascal's Wager is a foolish way to live.

Side: no its not
MKIced(2482) Disputed
2 points

I don't look at it as an end-all be-all to religion. I see it as a way to get others to understand what might happen if they don't believe in God. After this, people tend to find other reasons to believe. Pacals's Wager is simply a way to show that believing in God IS worth it.

Side: Yes it is
1 point

Agreed on the Pascal's Wager argument. I would also like to add that if there isn't anything in this life after, than you have wasted your one and only life in fear of some spooky invisible being. That right there is the biggest loss.

Side: no its not
1 point

Believing in god is important because it gives humanity a reason for existence.

Side: Yes it is
iamdavidh(4870) Disputed
1 point

yeah? and what reason would that be exactly? I want an explanation. Religious types are always throwing around "reason for existence" and I have yet to hear a reason beyond "exist to worship" or some other boring ass thing. That hardly seems a reason, more a reason to end it all to be honest, if we are talking an eternity of this nonsense.

Side: no its not
1 point

My question would be:

What is more important? Truth or pleasure? It sounds like this thread is based on benefits and pleasures that come with "belief." If that alone is a person's motivation, that person needs a heart check.

Reflect on it. If a person has the right heart about seeking God out, I believe they will find truth. (key - right heart)

Side: Yes it is

What about death? Is death without believing in God worth it? If there is no god, you have no fears, if there is you will get Heaven, rather than Hell.

Side: Yes it is
iamdavidh(4870) Disputed
1 point

... unless its the wrong god, then you totally wasted sunday morning and you get to go to hell. Screw that noise.

Side: no its not
1 point

God cannot be selfish he gave us life. What good is a life of pleasure anyways? I enjoyed myself and along the way made twenty different peoples lives miserable. Sounds worth it. God is gracious in that he gives this chance to be in heaven but he also gives us a choice heaven or hell? Heaven is eternal bliss eternal happiness. Hell is eternal torment. Which do you Prefer?

Side: Yes it is
1 point

If believing in God gets you through your life then why not? Shouldn't be held against you.

Side: Yes it is
1 point

Yes, believing in God is worth it. Even atheist and other people say they see a change for a better good in people who are Christians, believe in God, and obey him.

Side: Yes it is

It is good. The belief in God gives people hope and the desire to do good to others.

Side: yes it is
0 points

Every man/woman ever born and yet to be born will inescapably believe in god. The only question that remains is the name of their god in which they believe. And almost all humans act and think in a manner that demonstrates they are their own god. They all presuppose that either there is a god that is their minister/slave/servant or they are themselves like god subject to no higher authority than their own dispositions and ignorance. Most scientists and Christians vociferously demonstrate such self-worship.

Side: None of the Above
Mahollinder(893) Disputed
0 points

I don't accept your dichotomy.

Side: no its not
lawnman(1106) Disputed
1 point

That is the point of my argument. The question of the debate is based upon a False dichotomy. It is impossible for any thinking or even irrationally thinking person to think and act in a manner that is inconsistent with his or her own predisposition to subject themselves to a supreme authority. That supreme authority regardless of its' name is a god. And more often than not people act as though they are their own supreme authority.

The term, god, is a title and not a proper noun. Many Kings of old and new world truthfully hold the title of god. So, the better question of this debate should have been: What is the name of your god, and does your god prosper you.

Good eye Mahollinder

Side: That is the Point
-1 points

YES gOD IS WORTH BELIVING IN I KNOW I BELIVE IN HIM BECAUSE ALL THE THINGS I WITNESS WITH MY OWN TWO EYES ONE I WAS LOST AND NOW I AM FOUND BORN OF HIS SPIRIT AND LOVING THE NEW AND CHANGED LIFE gOD IS REAL AS YOU ARE READING IT . THE LIBERIALS HATE GOD BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I AM GOING TO KEEP ON PRAISING HIM AND WORSHIPING HIM UNTRIL THE DAY I DIE OR HE COME FOR ME.

Side: Yes it is
deepishm(357) Disputed
1 point

I WAS LOST AND NOW I AM FOUND(what sense does it make)

this is utter foolishness that god saved you or brought you back.............

Side: no its not
6 points

You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste the afterlife? - Modest Mouse

That pretty much sums up my opinion of the whole thing.

Side: no its not
5 points

The way I view religion is... I just need proof.

I don't think any religion is specifically wrong... don't think any are right. I don't think that science is right.

Until I can see for myself what lies in the afterlife, I will not believe one way or the other.

Therefore, it is not worth it because I would most likely be wrong and that would be a waste of life... and very disappointing.

If I don't believe in anything without specifically turning away from anything, I figure things will turn out for the best.

Side: no its not
MKIced(2482) Disputed
0 points

The "wait and see" philosophy isn't the greatest idea. It's like a deer caught in headlights. You are like the deer and the headlights are the afterlife. You have no idea what is coming toward you. Then suddenly, boom. You're dead. You now just experienced the "afterlife". Is it what you expected? No. But better to believe in something and be wrong than to not believe in something and still be wrong.

Side: Yes it is
Mahollinder(893) Disputed
5 points

Why is it better to believe "in something" (what does that even mean?) than not believe "in something"?

Side: no its not
5 points

No, for very simple reasons.

There is no requirement for the intervention of a God to live a healthy lifestyle. We're capable of making our own decisions without knowing where life comes from, when and how the universe began, etc.

And religions like Christianity attempt to reach into the realms of the unknown and not only fill this gap with definite answers, but it tells you not to do this or that and creates antagonistic behavior towards people like homosexuals, sexually active people, and people who drink or smoke pot. In other words, victimless crimes. Then it takes credit for basically the entire universe and people's natural tendency to grow and prosper. I don't see the benefit of following a cult that claims to know the intentions of an almighty creator.

The atheistic countries of Europe have already worked this out amongst themselves. It took centuries of religious persecution and violence to create countries with the foremost standards of living, without religion. I live without it too, I don't hurt anybody, I help out, and any culture knows that the best way to approach life is to live happy and help others live happy. No commandments required.

Side: no its not
3 points

It's not worth it, believe in yourself not so much of god.

God can't help you, he can only guide you.

Side: no its not
Warlin(1213) Disputed
1 point

Oh hey, I missed this.

You might be forgetting that guidance is help.

Side: Yes it is
kroticfate(161) Disputed
2 points

God cannot help you and bring you to heaven, he can only guide you and show you the path.

Guidance will only be help if you do something about it.

If not, it is not help it is just some instructions or ways to go to heaven.

God bringing you to heaven is called direct help whereas god showing you directions to heaven is called indirect help.

There is a difference..

Side: no its not
3 points

no why would one waste the time an effort worrying about god live life here and now if a god exists you will know soon enough, and if one does exist i would imagine he just laughs at organized religion

Side: no its not

I do not think believing in god is worth it. I have spent many hours of my life contemplating the question of god. For me, a god that is so distant is not worth it. Why worry and stress about the afterlife instead of the life you got now? There is no point. For me, its much more worth it to put my energy into my life and worry about whats going on while I am living, not what will happen after I die. Who knows? What if there is no afterlife? What then? Point being that people should enjoy the time they got instead of preparing for something they lack knowledge of.

Side: no its not
2 points

If god requires belief, then it is false and needs to be rejected.

Side: no its not