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Da Nai
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Is music today as good as it has been in the past?

As far as I'm concerned, none of the songs being made today will be being played in 20, 50, or a hundred years time, unlike many songs made 20, 50, 100 and more years ago.


What do you think? 

Da

Side Score: 47
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Nai

Side Score: 45
3 points

Music, like any art is a growing, changing, evolving life form. It breathes, it flourishes, it rebels, and it even sleeps at times.

What makes great hits so great has more to do with popularity than with actual music itself.

Newer generations don’t always enjoy music that was popular in the past; this doesn’t mean they don’t appreciate good music just that they live in a different time and environment. Music of the past may not speak to people the way it spoke to those who were around during the inspirational timeframe it was created in. Music often times carries with it a particular essence, not just in the lyrics but in the very notes played, which is distinctive for the time in which it was crafted. Current events, cultural differences, new technology, all play a big part in influencing the style of music and that comes with a significant amount of appreciation from those people currently being affected by those same influences.

Considering the vast diversity of contemporary music available, I think anyone would be hard pressed to seriously sit down and not find something they enjoy listening to after honest consideration. At which point I say to hell with popularity.

Side: Da
3 points

What does "today's music" even mean? Just the hits? Because that doesn't even represent 1% of what's being produced. "Today's Music" includes access to virtually any sound conceivable, includes new instruments (such as the Hang) and production and distribution methods we could barely conceive of when I was born.

Will today's songs still be played in 20, 50, 100 years? I don't know, but would that even really be necessarily a good thing? Music, and all art, should be constantly evolving in pace with the evolving world anyway.

Side: Da
2 points

Kind of a yes and no question. The music of modern culture isn't great I mean just look at the charts they're terrible especially compared to what used to be in the charts and what was once popular but that doesn't mean that all of the music of today is absolutely terrible. I mean just look at the music artists like coldplay, muse, snow patrol, 30 seconds to mars, the narrative, motion city soundtrack, 12 stones (I could go on forever). Those artists have come out with songs fairly recently (some more recently than others) and I have not found fault with them and do prefer them to older music.

If this was only about what has become modern culture music for example one direction, pitbull, rihanna and so on, then I would definitely say no because the music that I hear in the charts or on the radio is just appalling (blurred lines being an example)

Side: Da
1 point

I'm sure that I can't make an objective answer to this question, but I think that it's worth noting that the only "old" music that we remember now are the ones that we listened to the most ie the good ones.

Side: Da
1 point

True of course.. But what "good" songs in today's music will be remembered?? Please try and name me some!!

Side: Da
Stickers(1037) Clarified
1 point

Eiffel 65- I'm Blue

Jimmy Eat World- The Middle

Outkast- Hey ya

Shaggy- It wasn't me

Sublime- Santeria

Jack Johnson- Upside Down

John Mayer- Waiting on the World to Change

The Fray- How to Save a Life

These aren't just relatively recent hits, (most within 10 years, all within 20) these will be talked about for decades to come. If you remember some of these from your childhood, that further reinforces the scope of my earlier claim.

Side: Da
DrawFour(2660) Clarified
1 point

Remembered by who? The internet pretty much as every song ever made and played recorded. Technically speaking every song will be remembered forever.

Side: Da
1 point

Completely subjectively I must say yes.

Of the old songs I know of, I might like one out of every ten, that compared to music I've listened to growing up, even to now I've heard countless songs out of countless songs that I like.

Side: Da
Coldthedog(244) Disputed
2 points

That's because those are the song that surround you. These are the song that your friends listen to and are trending. Look up some old music, there's some good stuff. It's just not shoved in your face like the music of this time.

Side: Nai
DrawFour(2660) Disputed
1 point

If I have to search for it it's not that memorable now is it? Why is no one just referring me to some, or rather to some that I enjoy?

Side: Da
1 point

If rust was a sound, then I would compare that to the sound of the Old Metal music. Gritty, rough and not appealing. I feel nauseated when I listen to it. The Nu Metal empowers me.

Side: Da
Coldthedog(244) Disputed
1 point

I'm not sure what language that is, but I was able to decode enough to get the basis of your argument. I'm not sure what people like you see in that music. All that crap metal crap is always the same. Some guy who sounds like he slit his through yells at the top of his lungs while a garage band mercilessly beat their instrument until it's nothing but dust.

Side: Nai
ProLogos(2797) Disputed
1 point

Cool beans.

Side: Da
ProLogos(2797) Disputed
1 point

Scurpa dida Flurp.

I don't know you, but I fucking hate you.
Side: Da
1 point

I cannot objectify this position due to it's inherent subjective identity, but I would say that music today is still as good as it was years ago. It all depends on the listener and their individual interests.

Side: Da
1 point

First of all this is a very open question considering there is a LOT of music out there.

I listen to some music of today that doesn't get aired on the radio or tv or anything and I just think how popular it might be if the same thing came out in the 60's.

Here's the thing.. There is a lot more music now then there was. There will never be another Beatles because we live in a world where everyone is listening to different things. If a band started right now and they were as good as the Beatles do you think they'd get big? Or be on the radio? Or win awards?

The reason so many people argue for Na on the other side is that they compare say the Beatles or led zepplin to say.. the Jonas Brothers or taylor swift. That's not a proper comparison. There are a lot of rock bands who make a lot of music that is very good. That kind of sound doesn't get a lot of media attention. Simple as that. People don't look for good music and don't know it's there.

A genre of music can only be dead to people who rely on the norm of society.

Side: Da
1 point

Personally, I think it is. However, this is from a male teenager's point of view. So for some one who actually lived through and got to expirience some of the great musicians, such as Janice Joplin, Elvis Presley, Bob Marley, Jonny Cash, etc., they might think that music today isn't as real or as powerful as some of the music they listened to as kids.

Side: Da

I think so. I like Trance music and this form of music was not available until the end of the 20th century.

Side: Da
2 points

hahaha is that even a question? Nope.

Side: Nai
1 point

I like you, you go strait to the point and don't waste a second.

Side: Nai
1 point

Because I read the question wrong, I got the yes and no mixed up :P

I almost hated you for a minute Srom ;)

Side: Nai
1 point

I suppose you are trying to say that older music is better than newer music. This is an opinion, but my opinion would be older music is better for the same reason as the author said it was: Older music lasts longer. I know songs that a lot of people liked for about a week and got tired of it nowadays. Mozart, Bach, Beethoven. All famous composers in the Baroque or Classical period of music. We know their names today as being those fancy people with violins. Classical music has really changed our lives today. The orchestra, an old ensemble of people who play instruments, is still around today. The saxophone, one of the newer instruments, was the instrument of jazz music. The jazz era is gone now, but we still love and enjoy its music. We still compose music of classical descent all the way up to jazz music. Newer music is easily forgotten and since music is so common these days, we forget songs more easily. Music wasn't as common in the classical music period; perhaps people made a big deal out of every single music composition ever made in that era: because it was harder to come by.

Side: Nai
2 points

the music played in the past was much much better than today .. but there are some songs you cannot compare

Side: Nai
2 points

They say the brain is the most complex and amazing biological matter, well, when it comes to 'music' nowadays..

Obviously not.

Side: Nai
2 points

This isn't a good question. There are today, as in any other given time, several qualities of music; good, bad, mediocre, catchy, popular, blah blah blah... If you're asking of what's popular, then you have to understand the generation/culture that the music comes from. Now consider how each individual views music a different way. I'm a cynical musician, so when I hear today's pop music I have to fight off stabbing myself in the temple with whatever is within reach of my hand. This isn't true for everyone.

Side: Nai
HumannamuH(209) Clarified
1 point

I agree this is the case, but as I was brought up with classical music mainly, I have to say that my ears don't agree with the harsh qualities of rap 'music'.

Side: Da
1 point

Ever hear Billy Joel, MJ, Elvis, Bon Jovi, or Werid Al? They had amazing music. Today we have this Lil' Wane crap and meaning less songs that are super popular than one day just completely forgotten. At least Werid Al and Goerge Strait are still alive.

Side: Nai
DrawFour(2660) Disputed
1 point

All opinions, and out of your list of alleged good oldies, I only enjoyed one song by one artist. That's weird Al's trapped in the drive through.

I like Lil Wayne, he puts clever one liners, puns, and metaphors into his songs in a way that not many others have.

Side: Da
Coldthedog(244) Disputed
2 points

Lil' Wane clever. He's a stoner with a mic. He says the stupidest crap all the time. All these new songs are guilty pleasure, addictive, meaningless crap. Well, that's what I think. Adding music to debate is a crazy idea that will lead to armageddon. I'm from a small town up in Colorado. I like old music and country no matter what time it was from. Your most likely from a bigger town and like rap, hip hop, and pop. We have different views on life and different likes.

Side: Nai
Cartman(17749) Clarified
1 point

Do you like Run D.M.C. and Public Enemy more or less than Lil Wayne? Wouldn't those be more comparable?

Side: Da
1 point

About your songs being popular for one day and then being forgotten- I totally agree. Whereas many songs from the past are still played, I don't see many of these being played in a few months, let alone years.

Edited- I saw my mistake xD

Side: Nai
1 point

Gaaaaad!

I always thought everyone would like the 1D FOREVER. Now, I just don't even. Know.

Side: Nai
1 point

From a personal standpoint I prefer older music. I like all genres of music from pop, country, rap, rock, even polka. Yes I like polka even. But I can't connect to the newer songs as much as I can the old ones. Besides a sick beat, great rhythm, and meaningful lyrics I like a story in my songs. I like to be able to close my eyes and imagine exactly what this person felt like when they were writing this song. I want to be able to feel every emotion they intended to put in their song. I have only found a few songs from today that do that for me. As for older songs, I can relate to them. They have great stories, keep my mind off things, and make me "feel". What else could you ask for in a song?

Side: Nai