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Behind the luster of tempting spotlights and thick bundles of flowing money that the porn industry offers, darkness lies behind it.
The majority of porn stars are uneducated people who falls prey at the idea of easy money and easy pleasure. Yet, they fail to comprehend that it will demote their worth as a human. Everyday, they are treated as objects and discriminated upon. Their sense of selfworth gradually degrades to the point that they end up using drugs as an escapism from their reality.
And that does not include the everyday harassment and violence in their studios
As a religos person myself, I would like to say that not all of us are like that. I too have questions about the reliability of someone saying that they are cured of herpes. It is probably just in a dormant phase, which is typical of herpes.
That's in no way every porn star. Their are some porn stars, and ex porn stars, that rejoice on the life they live or used to live.
Take Jennifer Corrales, or as she used to be known Jenna Haze. She claimed to have loved the industry and still stays in touch with the people she knew while working in it.
As a perfect counter to that you can look at Marina Ann Hantzis or as she used to be known, Sasha Grey. She left the industry to become a mainstream actress and looks back on the business with regret, and would prefer to not talk about it.
Those two women tell me one thing about the industry. The people in it choose to be there, and can get feelings about it any way they feel, they can choose to either own up to it or deny it.
Some people likes their job no matter how filthy and offensive. But do you think that they are good examples for our next generation?
The porn industry isnt a place of teas and cakes. Rather, it is where you turn yourself into a toy and will always be look down upon. You may enjoy it, but dont think that you will be mourned.
By and large, porn actors themselves decide to do it or not. We get the finished product and watch it or not, we already decide. I prefer to watch hentai, since there you can not think about the violence of living people.
I agree with you. Although for as long as I know, violence does occur there periodically. What about hentai, so I watch videos like that. Recently, my neighbor advised me to look at no censored hentai. I liked the wide range of videos on this source. You can see if you're interested. This may be useful for someone looking for such content.
Everyday, they are treated as objects and discriminated upon. Their sense of selfworth gradually degrades to the point that they end up using drugs as an escapism from their reality.
How are they treated as objects? The porn stars voluntarily agree to have sex with someone (who is usually attractive because un-attractive people in porn is bad for business) and get paid a ton of money for it. You act as if its human trafficking.
How does their self worth degrade? You honestly think that no one in the porn industry is a nympho or gets a self confidence boost over people paying them a large amount of money to be on camera? Really? You think that these people never used drugs before, but then started doing them because they went into porn? Really?
And that does not include the everyday harassment and violence in their studios
When they are tossed aside when they dont agree or dont do better than the next best thing.
You act as if its human trafficking.
It is legal to watch to people have sex and do all sorts of things yet human trafficing is illegal. Which is truly worse if you think about it?
How does their self worth degrade? You honestly think that no one in the porn industry is a nympho or gets a self confidence boost over people paying them a large amount of money to be on camera? Really? You think that these people never used drugs before, but then started doing them because they went into porn? Really?
She or He is getting money for sex. Thats it. Human trafficing is still illegal yet it does the same thing. It ruins her image mostly because people dont want to get to know her the want to have sex with her. It pretty much makes her a tool for money.
Is it currently legal for anyone to have a gun in their car? Because that would explain why it hasn't stopped anyone.
You understand that that the rough porn videos are staged and that the actors agree to do them, right? Of course you didn't...
It is legal to watch to people have sex and do all sorts of things yet human trafficking is illegal. Which is truly worse if you think about it?
I don't mean to be nasty, but, are you fucking retarded? Porn is watching who voluntarily agreed to have sex get it on. Human trafficking involves kidnapping people, selling them into slavery where they will be raped on a daily basis, which do you think is truly worse? It is insulting to suggest that porn is worse than sexual slavery.
She or He is getting money for sex. Thats it. Human trafficking is still illegal yet it does the same thing.
No, you're actually very wrong on that. In the porn industry they pay people to have sex on camera and it is all voluntary. Human trafficking (as I stated above) involves kidnapping people, selling them into slavery where they will be raped on a daily basis.
It ruins her image mostly because people don't want to get to know her the want to have sex with her.
Her? You mean them. There are male porn stars to you know?
You're forgetting that the porn industry is a job, not a life style. Its like working in an office or factory, no one wants to get to know you, they just want you to do your job. When you're out of work, then you get to know people and have a good time.
It pretty much makes her a tool for money.
You mean them a tool for money.
You could say the same thing about any profession. John was a great musician, but its his job now, so he is just a tool for money.
Is it currently legal for anyone to have a gun in their car? Because that would explain why it hasn't stopped anyone.
Umm I dont think that is something I said.
I don't mean to be nasty, but, are you fucking retarded? Porn is watching who voluntarily agreed to have sex get it on. Human trafficking involves kidnapping people, selling them into slavery where they will be raped on a daily basis, which do you think is truly worse? It is insulting to suggest that porn is worse than sexual slavery.
No. I am not mentally handicapped which is a better word to use because saying retarded may offend some people. Also sorry I thought human trafficking was just prostitution sorry about that. My fault.
Her? You mean them. There are male porn stars to you know?You're forgetting that the porn industry is a job, not a life style. Its like working in an office or factory, no one wants to get to know you, they just want you to do your job. When you're out of work, then you get to know people and have a good time.
Yes. I agree but when you tell a person that your occupation is a porn star wont that seem unappealing to some people? Everybody has seen you naked. The sheer thought of that may spook someone.
You mean them a tool for money.You could say the same thing about any profession. John was a great musician, but its his job now, so he is just a tool for money.
Umm cool example. But John works alone right? He makes his music so people will voluntarily give him money right? Porn does not do what music does. Porn can change views on the way he world works and porn has its negative effects just like anything else. It pretty much makes the woman a tool. With your musician example the tool being used is the instrument. Unless the manager is corrupt but other than that the tool is the instrument. In porn you are the tool and if you die you can bet they wont really care that much and wont waste time replacing you. It makes the feel like an instrument of money. The porn industry is changing society negatively.
That's an easy question. How are they treated like objects? You watch porn and tell me what the color of the girls eyes are. Watch porn and tell me if she's a religious person. Watch porn and tell me if she loves to hang with friends. Watch porn and tell me what her thoughts are politically. You can't because your just looking at her breasts and but. The right way to look at anyone including girls is to look at them as a personality and not an object. Looking at that naked girl is just thinking about her breasts and other nasty stuff on her body and not thinking about regular stuff like does she love her mom and dad or does she have a strong relationship with him brother or something. Your objectifying her and In case you didn't know objectify someone is treating them and looking at them like an object.
According to these articles I would assume that porn is quite bad for the porn stars themselves. It seems like they dont think they have a worthy life. All life is worthy.
I think porn can harm young boy's views on sex. What you see in an adult movie is not anything like what you're gonna experience in real life, and many boys think that porn is realistic sex.
Not only is it damaging to boys, there is more and more pressure for girls to try and act like porn actresses. As porn becomes more ubiquitous, young girls and boys are not going to think of sex as an emotional connection between two people, but as a show. There are already and are going to be more and more girls that think a natural end sex is a money shot. This is potentially far more damaging to the idea of a traditional marriage than allowing commented homosexuals to marry.
Although I've heard of boys who aren't turned on by real girls, because their views on how a girl should be is flawed because of porn.
I don't think the porn is the problem here. I think these boys are control freaks and are 100% selfish. I dont think porn can really undo millions of years of natural programming.
However, chemicals, GMO, and hormones however can. Did you know that there are industrial chemicals that can make straight men actually be convinced that another man is a woman on a subconscious level just by changing the pheromones they give off?
They end up only being turned on by movies... why? Because real girls aren't porn stars, that's not how sex works, and it is damaging boys.
Have you ever stopped to consider that girls are harmful? Have you seen how many times a man has been cheated on and abused by a woman? Have you been used by women to go to concerts, movies and dinners? Then break up with you without a reason?
The fact of the matter is, masturbation doesn't hurt anyone. Doesn't cost money. Transmits no diseases. is a 100% contraceptive. and when the right woman does come around MAYBE HE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE INTERESTED. Seriously, it's almost like men can't fucking touch em selves to visual stimuli without woman going "Eww, that's disgusting", "it's harmful to everyone", and now the end all be all of arguments... "We are not getting laid because machines that play that time I masturbated". I mean, how can you generalize the entire porn watching community on how these boys feel? Is it impossible to enjoy pixel color switches in the rendition of a cute redhead pleasuring herself? Is it impossible to have those expectations of women? Or are the weirdo's that have something wrong with them in the first place the only argument worth looking at?
The fact of the matter is, masturbation doesn't hurt anyone.
That was never my claim. I too believe masturbation is not hurtful in any way, I actually think it is a good thing - you can ease pain by masturbation, people who get extreme migraines say that is can be relaxing for their head when they ''come''. It can also boost your mood, positive energy and all that thing.
My problem is not really the masturbation, my problem is the adult movies.
It's right what you say about women, women can fuck up men's mind like nobody else - but that doesn't change the fact that porn can be damaging boys.
I dont think porn can really undo millions of years of natural programming.
The programming is nothing wrong with. The equipment is still there after a porn movie (hopefully), what is damaged is man's view on sex. They will think that is how it works, and when they find out it's not really what it is, they are disappointed and unsatisfied.
what is damaged is man's view on sex. They will think that is how it works, and when they find out it's not really what it is, they are disappointed and unsatisfied.
What kind of porn are you talking about exactly?
Any guy in his right mind knows that a woman doesn't orgasm as soon as she's touched and that porn is fake. It may even take a genius to realize that you are getting off to a dead object. but, it seems to me like you are generalizing and stereotyping on how this actually effects men. and your argument seems to be completely biased towards men. Woman also watch porn.
I mean in the end we could be talking about bestiality porn where men are routinely having sex with goats... I think that these men who are more interested in fictional desires don't constitute good mates anyway.
It's right what you say about women, women can fuck up men's mind like nobody else
Well if a woman can fuck up a mans mind sexually and generally as well as vice/versa don't you think singling out porn for doing the same thing as kind of redundant?
The programming is nothing wrong with.
Well you are saying that porn has totally stripped these boys from any desire of a real woman. That to me is saying that they are no longer abiding by natural programming.
Well you are saying that porn has totally stripped these boys from any desire of a real woman. That to me is saying that they are no longer abiding by natural programming.
I never said that. I said they can do to some boys. Some boys have a hard time distinguishing reality from what they see in movies.
Although I've heard of boys who aren't turned on by real girls, because their views on how a girl should be is flawed because of porn.
Yes you did.
Some boys have a hard time distinguishing reality from what they see in movies.
If this is the case then the problem isn't the porn. It's the minds of these boys. If they cannot distinguish fact from fiction even when it's blatant and obvious then they may need special learning. It also says a lot about whether or not these men are suitable mates or not as well.
The question isn't does porn exist, or is there a market for porn; there clearly is a market. The question is is porn harmful. Cigarettes are clearly harmful, but there is still a market for them.
Oh yeah sorry my mistake , then I'd say it's just like video games , it won't be harmful if the audience can tell the difference between porn and real life .
Yes it can be harmful because it can be an addiction to a lot of people because they want more and more but it will never fill them up its just a temporary fill.
It has destroyed lots of marriage because of it. It really does nothing to a person and in my opinion porn is disgusting and it can do damage to you and your marriage.
I have never watched it nut I would think that it is harmful....What if a 13 yr. old watched it and the porn made the 13 yr. old think that it is ok to have sex...So it is harmful
It is okay to have sex. Sex is responsible for bringing into this world new life. It's bad for 13 year old children to watch porn, that does not make porn bad in general. It's bad for babies to play with small objects, that does not make small objects bad in general.
It is counterproductive and addictive and I think that people use it while stressed however it merely temporarily masks the stress, never eliminates it.
1) Pornography feeds lust of the eyes and lust of the flesh, which are never satisfied. It leaves the viewer craving more and more in order to achieve the same "sexual high." It easily enslaves people to their own cravings and opens the door to other forms of evil, like anger, abuse, violence, hatred, lying, envy, compulsiveness and selfishness. The power behind porn is revealed when the porn addict tries to stop their habit - it is virtually impossible without help.
2) Pornography sexualizes the viewer's mindset. It warps and perverts their perspective such that sex is unnaturally elevated in their thoughts. Porn's images are stamped into viewer's brain with the aid of hormones released during sexual arousal. Even if a person decides to stop looking at porn, the past images can remain for years or even a lifetime.
3) Pornography promotes destructive practices and can lead to progressive addiction. For example, porn sites routinely link viewers to depictions of every type of sexual perversion imaginable, such as child porn, homosexuality, bestiality, necrophilia (sexual interest in corpses), masochism (pleasure from abuse or suffering), rape and sadism (gratification from inflicting physical or mental pain on others). The viewer's exposure to such themes naturally increases the likelihood that they may attempt to act out what they've viewed. This can lead to sexual crimes, a la the late Ted Bundy and Gary Ridgway (The Green River Killer).
4) Pornography intensifies an individual's drive to serve oneself, rather than serve others. For example, masturbation, which typically accompanies looking at pornography reinforces a self-centered sexual orientation (i.e. lust), which can detract from a person's ability to give and receive love.
5) Pornography addiction can lead to debt. The convenience of credit card transactions on the internet encourages covert spending without limit. Additionally, pornographers flood common internet areas with enticing banner ads ("teasers") and spam email, which bait potential viewers with free porn. Once lured by the free porn to the site, the viewers must then pay to see more. Porn can also cause huge financial losses for employers with employees who waste company time searching for porn, downloading, viewing and covering their tracks on company computers. Employees who get caught accessing porn and are subsequently get fired will experience potentially significant losses, most likely leading to debt.
6) Looking at porn can damage the viewer's current or future marriage sex life. Porn viewers may find that it's difficult to enjoy true intimacy with their spouse when they're fantasizing about somebody else! Additionally, porn builds an unrealistic perception of sexual relations. Porn sex is a portrayal or an act made for the viewer's enjoyment. It takes what God intended as a private expression of love between a husband and wife and prostitutes it for entertainment. When a person has been looking at sexual pictures of other people for entertainment, he or she will have a downgraded value of sex. This in turn will detract from their appreciation and value of sex with their spouse.
Well I read the articals. I didn't learn anything I don't already know, and my point of veiw doesn't change. It's not good nor bad, what matters is how it's preformed. Yes, most porn made now of days is 'bad', being that they don't check for STDs and they don't do things 'truely professional'. In many ways I see the people 'running the show' as childish. But it porn itself harmful? No. If everything is done the right way, I see nothing wrong with it. And still, even if things are run in all the right ways, if everone complys and accepts all of the conditions, why not? Of course most new pornstars aren't knowledgeable of all of the risks, and that's wrong, but it's their fault. You can find risks in every occupation. This debate might as well be "Is life harmful" Yes, it can be. But also, it can be good. People do what they want, and if it's what they want, nothing more should be said.
I think the idea is to point out that not all jobs are good jobs. And since all jobs aren't good jobs, you can't infer that working in the porn industry is good from the fact that it's a job.
Yes it's a decision on their part. But simply because it's voluntary doesn't mean it's a healthy job, which is the contention you should be arguing for. Instead you are arguing that it's their own fault, which really hasn't got anything to do with how healthy it is.
If there's more occurences of dissatisfaction, depression and other more or less severe mental issues associated with the job I think it's fair to say that the job isn't good. So if the person truly is satisfied with the job, then it's good for that particular person. What I think we mean when we say that a job is good is that the majority doesn't like it. That is an argument based on what the people as whole says - it isn't a matter of what the individual thinks.
Yes, but a interesting fact is, the majority of people don't like their job, and this goes for all feilds of work. So by that logic, no job would be a 'good' job.
Even if you are right, that would just mean that a lot of jobs are bad. That wouldn't mean that working in the porn industry is not bad. What you are saying is hardly relevant to the case.
I'm just saying the logic is bad. No job is right for everyone, and just because a mijority dislike the porn industry, it doesn't make it a bad place to work. Just like how most people don't like office work, it doesn't make working in a office a 'bad thing'. People choose to do what they do... Porn exists, and it's growing actually. It obviously must have some good aspects.
Governments still participate and may even sickly enjoy it.
slavery
Hasn't been abolished but not everyone accepts it.
piracy
Seriously, everyone loves being a pirate. A pirates life is free. Society is not. It's no surprise that millions of people flock to that last of the free world and it having survived this long is actually commendable.
drug abuse.
Still happens and the prohibition on natural drugs has only made things worse for everyone.. Also, the whole drug campaign is really a double standard. "say no to drugs" but, please allow your doctor to deal you drugs.
also I want sources and proof of Same thing was once said to capital punishment, slavery, piracy and drug abuse.
Governments still participate and may even sickly enjoy it.
- A few countries have already abolished the capital punishment, or at least made it more humane. If society can grow for the better, then everyone will doubt the righteousness of this punishment
Hasn't been abolished but not everyone accepts it.
- It HAS been abolished and declared illegal. Currently, its called "Human Trafficking"
Seriously, everyone loves being a pirate.
- Agree, but tell me honestly, when was the last time that stealing was good?
(But then, paying 100 bucks over a few songs is stealing as well)
Also, the whole drug campaign is really a double standard. "say no to drugs" but, please allow your doctor to deal you drugs.
-sigh
My friend, there is a difference between "medicine" and "illegal drugs". Its not double standards when the one at fault is the lack of appropriate words in the English Dictionary
also I want sources and proof of
- I dont think it really demands proof, but if you really need it, then just look at the history of slavery, opium war and many abolished customs.
The point here is that as time goes on, we learn how to think more critical and began to question our sense of morality and justice. What we believe as correct today can illegal in the future or the other way around
- A few countries have already abolished the capital punishment, or at least made it more humane. If society can grow for the better, then everyone will doubt the righteousness of this punishment
Thanks for agreeing with me.
- It HAS been abolished and declared illegal. Currently, its called "Human Trafficking"
Slavery hasn't been abolished. To abolish something is to remove the practice completely around the world. Unfortunately it still exists in many parts of the world and a lot of the products that the first world enjoys are made by slaves.
So in reality the system just moved it away from the public eye.
Out of sight out of mind, correct?
-sigh
My friend, there is a difference between "medicine" and "illegal drugs". Its not double standards when the one at fault is the lack of appropriate words in the English Dictionary
Actually, medicine is a loose term for a variety of practices, treatments and including but not limited to drugs.
A drug is a substance that has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body, in particular.
So I stand correct when I say it's a double standard because they tell you to say no to drugs but, those drugs are alright (most of the time the doctors are giving a lot of nasty shit to you that is just as bad as street drugs in terms of health destructiveness). They say to you "Say no to drugs" but, never tell you that oxygen is a drug.
Unfortunately it still exists in many parts of the world
- Nope, you're referring to the third world countries who are so poor and uncultured that they have no connection to the world market. If they cannot bring themselves to the global trade or accepted by it, then I believe that they are not a part of the world
So I stand correct when I say it's a double standard because they tell you to say no to drugs but, those drugs are alright
-My friend, you only question the dictionary and definition of drugs. But you do not understand the authority of the doctor. Just give it up
By the way, why didnt you raise an argument on my last paragraph?
then I believe that they are not a part of the world
You're stupid.
My friend, you only question the dictionary and definition of drugs. But you do not understand the authority of the doctor. Just give it up
I do not question the dictionary on this front. I'm telling you exactly what those two words mean and the differences between them. I do understand the authority of the doctor. Which is why I know that they can murder you and tell you "they did all they could". Vaccinations contain mercury and cause autism and depression drugs cause addiction. They are the same damn thing as a drug dealer that sells drugs on the street. Did you know that every medication that has been patented comes from a natural source made synthetic just so they can make money? YOU just give up.
By the way, why didnt you raise an argument on my last paragraph?
Because I know that programs like MK-ULTRA and propaganda and clever tricks will actually make you believe in abstract concepts like morality and whatever it may entail. You will be conditioned to go along with anything.
-Nope, your not a part of the society if you wont get off the computer. Your not a part of the world, if your not a part of the global trade system. Thats how it works
I do understand the authority of the doctor. Which is why I know that they can murder you and tell you "they did all they could". Vaccinations contain mercury and cause autism and depression drugs cause addiction. They are the same damn thing as a drug dealer that sells drugs on the street.
-This are some strong accusations. I hope you have a link to back up your claims
Because I know that programs like MK-ULTRA and propaganda and clever tricks will actually make you believe in abstract concepts like morality and whatever it may entail. You will be conditioned to go along with anything.
Nope, your not a part of the society if you wont get off the computer. Your not a part of the world, if your not a part of the global trade system. Thats how it works
Show's how much you know. Society isn't the world you know. You precious global markets are run by crooks and offshore bankers.
-This are some strong accusations. I hope you have a link to back up your claims
As for the murder aspect, I apologize I cannot provide any links to. However, my personal experience with the hospital (of which I don't have to prove jack shit to you) after my grandmother signed her death waver (saying do not resuscitate) and then was admitted into the hospital for a minor sickness. the doctors took her off her water pills (which they shouldn't have, they were prescription drugs given by a doctor to keep her kidneys functioning) and she screamed for me to help her. I frightened and clueless as to what was happening watched her die and the doctors in fact murdered her. Afterwords my aunt has since been taken to court for lawsuits involving her will. She refuses to give what she's supposed to give and has stolen 90,000 thousand from my family.
You did not even read that paragraph did you?
Yes i did. You said the morality of today will not be the morality of tomorrow and i said, they can make you believe what ever they want. There are programs available to US and Russian governments that can literally plant idea's into your head and you accept them as a godly command. You know very little about the documented powers that be. I can tell by how ignorant you are.
- Nice links, completely proves that you're armed. Unfortunately, you were misguided as the news was all disproven.. And called as "The most damaging medical hoax of the last 100 years"
As for the murder aspect, I apologize I cannot provide any links to.
- You dont have to. Doctors undergo certain physical and mental tests to ensure the safety of their patients. They have no right to murder a patient unless its a permitted euthanasia. Disobedience can render their permit useless.
Im sorry for your family, though
(bill gates vaccines paralize)
(bill gates preaching killing 1 billion people with vaccines)
(news article Doctors are the third leading cause of death in the US)
(doctors handwriting alone kills people)
- Again, nice links. But I see no correlation in blaming it on the doctors. What I see instead is the rate of unqualified doctors and scientists in the US.
Our argument was about your claim that "Also, the whole drug campaign is really a double standard. "say no to drugs" but, please allow your doctor to deal you drugs."
Please dont devate it on some other issues (very informative, though)
- Nice links, completely proves that you're armed. Unfortunately, you were misguided as the news was all disproven.. And called as "The most damaging medical hoax of the last 100 years"
no convincing scientific evidence supports these claims
This is probably coming from the same people that said GMO's are harmless. I wont buy it.
You dont have to. Doctors undergo certain physical and mental tests to ensure the safety of their patients. They have no right to murder a patient unless its a permitted euthanasia. Disobedience can render their permit useless.
They still do and still get away with it. Third leading cause of death in the US is doctor and health care incompetence. 106,000 being attributed to the drugs doctors prescribe.
Again, nice links. But I see no correlation in blaming it on the doctors. What I see instead is the rate of unqualified doctors and scientists in the US.
And that's no reason to blame doctors?
Our argument was about your claim that "Also, the whole drug campaign is really a double standard. "say no to drugs" but, please allow your doctor to deal you drugs."
Everything that doctors throw into your body is a drug. There is no other way to tell you that. I've looked at the medicine's you were talking about. Also, part of the argument. I've provided substantial argument on all fronts to the fact that they are just as dangerous as any street drug dealer the only difference is they are allowed to get away with it because they are "doctors".
Centifolia, i implore you to look at the big picture. Oxy's, perks, morphine and many other synthetic "opiates" are prescribed by doctors with other drugs in them to destroy your liver and other such monstrosities to "prevent drug abuse" but, no one tells you what is actually inside it.
For example the drug: Acetaminophen in Tylenol 3's does just that. Destroy your liver the more you use it. It has no other reason in being in the medication.
This is probably coming from the same people that said GMO's are harmless. I wont buy it.
- Dude, this is wikipedia. You cant stand against the largest encyclopedia in the world, now would you?
Unless, you will say that this is a conspiracy.
They still do and still get away with it. Third leading cause of death in the US is doctor and health care incompetence. 106,000 being attributed to the drugs doctors prescribe.And that's no reason to blame doctors?
-Dude, it is true that unqualified doctors are to blame for so many deaths, but at the same time, they are responsible for saving so many lives
If need someone to blame, blame the government branch who gave them the license
Everything that doctors throw into your body is a drug. There is no other way to tell you that. I've looked at the medicine's you were talking about.I've provided substantial argument on all fronts to the fact that they are just as dangerous as any street drug dealer the only difference is they are allowed to get away with it because they are "doctors"
- sigh You do realize that there is a difference between over-the-counter drugs and those that needed receipt from the doctors, right?
They are called doctors because they were granted license to handle the strong medicines that can be addictive and damaging.
Their ways of usage separates them from the illegal drugs sold in the black market
Oxy's, perks, morphine and many other synthetic "opiates" are prescribed by doctors with other drugs in them to destroy your liver and other such monstrosities to "prevent drug abuse" but, no one tells you what is actually inside it.
-My friend, have you ever realized that those drugs are given by doctors only when your case has become desperate? Every drug has its side effects and can be poisonous depending on usage.
Dude, this is wikipedia. You cant stand against the largest encyclopedia in the world, now would you?
Unless, you will say that this is a conspiracy.
I didn't want to have to laugh at you but, looks like I do. Wikipedia isn't 100% reliable and anyone can just walk in and change the articles. For all I know someone doctored that article to how they saw fit. Wikipedia is one of the least reliable sources available to date and should only be used with an educated understanding of subjects. It should never be cited and should never be used as your only source. Even the creator of wikipedia said that.
"Do you think students and researchers should cite Wikipedia? during an interview with Business Week in 2005, he replied, "No, I don't think people should cite it, and I don't think people should cite Britannica, either... People shouldn't be citing encyclopedias in the first place. Wikipedia and other encyclopedias should...give good, solid background information to inform your studies for a deeper level."
-Dude, it is true that unqualified doctors are to blame for so many deaths, but at the same time, they are responsible for saving so many lives
If need someone to blame, blame the government branch who gave them the license
Unfortunately, these doctors you are calling unqualified are in fact certified and deemed qualified by their schooling institutions and recognized as such by the government. To label them as not undermines everything the system stands for. It's a good thing I look at this objectively. Indeed, there are good and bad in every institution. However, that means you have to accept that there are some bogus doctors out there that are no better then your everyday drug dealer. Of whom i've put to shame by diagnosing myself and even being able to cure my tinnitus and ear wax build up with good ol' hydrogen peroxide. Also, I will not be blaming the government on this. I will blame the doctors responsible for the deaths of many. Responsibility to the responsible.
- sigh You do realize that there is a difference between over-the-counter drugs and those that needed receipt from the doctors, right?
They are called doctors because they were granted license to handle the strong medicines that can be addictive and damaging.
Their ways of usage separates them from the illegal drugs sold in the black market
sentence 1: Nyqill can get you high and so can perks. 1`s an over the counter cough syrup and the other is a synthetic heroine... Yeah, I'm pretty sure i know and have studied drugs a bit more in depth then you have.
Sentence 2: You're full of shit and have no idea how wrong you are here. You should have wrote me a 200 page article on why a doctor is called a doctor. Maybe more... You have to factor in things like, they went to school for 8 years and passed. What they learned what and what they do. Simply saying a doctor is a doctor because they were granted license to handle strong drugs that can be addictive and damaging is such a shallow statement that if metaphorically looked at as a puddle of water; I wouldn't drown face down unconscious in it . What about the hand specialist I had to go see. I sliced up a couple tendons in my hand and Dr. Bush stitched me right up and now I have a fully functioning hand again. I didn't even take the pain medication. ON TOP of all of that, a doctor doesn't even necessarily pertain to someone in the medical field.
sentence 3: SIGH That's not really going to work with me. I said it's a double standard practice in how doctors can sell you the same drugs that the government is telling you to say no to. Practices of either organizations in why they distribute it are really are not part of the debate and I refuse to comment further on like you asked me to.
-My friend, have you ever realized that those drugs are given by doctors only when your case has become desperate? Every drug has its side effects and can be poisonous depending on usage.
Its common sense in the field of medicine
Have you ever realized you're living in la la land?
It doesn't change the fact that it's a double standard and people still abuse them. Doctors are still selling the same drugs they(the government) tell you to say no to. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF A DOUBLE STANDARD. Hell, even marijuana now days is being sold and I even have evidence of Obama claiming that marijuana is more dangerous then heroine. (Thats funny shit)... Anyway, in regards to my Tylenol example maybe you don't know that all you need is cold water and a paper towel to extract the codeine and safely remove the liver destroying drug.
Wikipedia isn't 100% reliable and anyone can just walk in and change the articles. For all I know someone doctored that article to how they saw fit.
- Good point. But if you wont trust Wikipedia, then google for "Thiomersal controversy". You will find the same opinions that disproves it as mere fraud
Unfortunately, these doctors you are calling unqualified are in fact certified and deemed qualified by their schooling institutions and recognized as such by the government.Indeed, there are good and bad in every institution. However, that means you have to accept that there are some bogus doctors out there that are no better then your everyday drug dealer. I will not be blaming the government on this. I will blame the doctors responsible for the deaths of many. Responsibility to the responsible.
- It appears that you already have the answer. But you fail to show your stand, and instead, kept on bragging about your knowledge in medicine as if you believe that a normal citizen has knowledge of it. Which was made worse by how you used your achievements as a way of being narcissistic.
The flaws that you see in their field should be complained to the people who will really listen. Not here on a debate website.
Simply saying a doctor is a doctor because they were granted license to handle strong drugs that can be addictive and damaging is such a shallow statement. I said it's a double standard practice in how doctors can sell you the same drugs that the government is telling you to say no to.It doesn't change the fact that it's a double standard and people still abuse them. Doctors are still selling the same drugs they(the government) tell you to say no to
- As the doctors were licensed for their job, I see no problem in putting my trust on them. I have no background in chemistry so I have no rights to argue with them.
Wont you do the same thing with soldiers, teachers, and parents?
- It appears that you already have the answer. But you fail to show your stand, and instead, kept on bragging about your knowledge in medicine as if you believe that a normal citizen has knowledge of it. Which was made worse by how you used your achievements as a way of being narcissistic.
The flaws that you see in their field should be complained to the people who will really listen. Not here on a debate website.
Yeah, that's because I'm not a bigot or ignorant. I have shown it just fine however, you on the other hand; are deviating from the debate more and more. Resorting to more and more personal attacks without being able to argue. If stating your accomplishments is bragging then I guess I am. However, I'd like to see anyone proud of there accomplishments not brag when stating them. However, you call me a narcissist. I assure you I am claiming no more self importance then I already have. I'm not claiming to be a politician or some legend based off my ego. I merely claim to know what I'm talking about and you don't.
As the doctors were licensed for their job, I see no problem in putting my trust on them. I have no background in chemistry so I have no rights to argue with them.
Wont you do the same thing with soldiers, teachers, and parents?
first off, you never even started a debate. You only gave me complains after complains about the flaws in the hospital. Second, theres a difference between personal attacks and honesty.
But whatever, please take your issues somewhere else. Not here on a debate website.
My friend, there is a difference between "medicine" and "illegal drugs".
By the way. THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEDICINE AND ILLEGAL DRUGS.
You are such a twat Centifolia. That's the truth. Do you think that emoting a sigh helps your arguments? I mean, how can I take you seriously when you are so confused but, actually believe you make any sense?
1. Sighing is a non-verbal communication. Not a show of emotion
e·mote
/iˈmōt/
Verb
(esp. of an actor) Portray emotion in a theatrical manner.
A sigh is a non-verbal communication that is a long, deep, audible breath expressing sadness, relief, or tiredness.
As I said an emote is a portrayal of emotion in a theatrical manor.
2. You link contradicted your claim
No it didn't
"The difference is not necessarily in the marijuana or the way that it is grown, but in how it is used. Recreational marijuana users are looking for novel states of consciousness that are pleasant and interesting. Connoisseurs seek different highs for different circumstances and to create different moods.
Medical marijuana users seek varieties that either modify conditions such as nausea or glaucoma, or act as analgesics or as pain separators. People who use it for psychological reasons look for qualities that relieve their gnawing symptoms" - from the article
My whole claim this whole time is that the war on drugs is a double standard and that doctors or over glorified drug dealers. You have been trying to argue that drugs from the doctor are somehow different then street dealer. However, marijuana is clearly proving my claim.
I wouldn't go so far as to say it heals and gives life (maybe sometimes gives life) but it's definitely not harmful.
Overeating is harmful, Having unprotected sex with someone who you know has a disease is harmful, having sex for money with someone you know is not diseased, or watching two people have consensual sex is not harmful.
You mean about it luring in the uneducated and abused to work there? I pretty much guessed that. I mean what self respecting woman with a college degree, and other job opportunities would let 14 guys 'finish' on her? I think none, maybe some got a fetish for it, I don't know. What I do know is, the uneducated, have to do something. Would you rather them be living on a street corner, doing what they're getting paid lots of money for now, for way less and in way less safe conditions? As for the sexually abused. That's not really the fault of the porn industry, that's the fault of the initial abuser for instilling them with that fear and mind set, all porn has managed to do for that person is offer them an outlet, and loads of money.
I don't think it's harmful still, I think it's more or less nothing, if not positive. Yet I would hate to argue it's positive.
Porn is not inherently harmful. It can be but it's not necessarily.
Think about porn as medication. If someone who's not supposed to be watching porn is they'll take from it something they weren't supposed to, just like someone taking a medication they aren't supposed to will experience feelings they aren't supposed to.
In the analogy, the porn and the medication has a purpose but like anything in human hands, can be abused.
You say it can warp the reality of someone who watches it, and that is certainly the case for someone who does not know what sex is, then suddenly learns it like that. Yet for a person who may be in a committed relation ship and is looking to try new things, that may act as a tool of education or as an example. Not only is porn for the couples looking to try something new, but it is also for the single person (guy?) who is without a means to relieve their sexual frustration without going out and actually harming someone.
Pornography does much more harm than good. It cannot be "medicine".
Yet for a person who may be in a committed relation ship and is looking to try new things, that may act as a tool of education or as an example.
As the sources say even on marriage it can make sex good temporarily but then the participants begin to lose intimacy for one another. It tears apart relationships more than heal them. It replaces the spouse for someone better on a tv screen.
but it is also for the single person (guy?) who is without a means to relieve their sexual frustration without going out and actually harming someone.
Again. The guy will begin to lust for girls that fot what he can look up on his computer screen. On the computer a guy can look up anything. This means he can find what he cannot obtain or see in his surroundings. It does more harm than good which again is not an act of medicine.
Porn is not medicine. Porn does more harm than good. Medicine is supposed to be good.
LOL I meant it figuratively. I didn't want to start arguing in favor of porn being good for you, so I won't but I hold my ground that it's not definitely bad for you.
Pornography does much more harm than good. It cannot be "medicine".
On studies. Not everyone is affected the same way by it, not everyone takes it negatively like the people in the studies they use to explain how bad porn is. Porn does not kill you like harmful tobacco. Porn can not, in the wrong hands, wound you like gun or sword. Porn is nothing more than an exploration of human sexuality than can be taken in anyway you want to.
I'll give slightly, in saying that porn can be harmful to the psyche of young men who have never had any experience with sex, but I do not believe that just because some people can't handle it that it's dangerous.
Babies can't handle pencils yet we don't call them dangerous, we simply say it's dangerous for the baby to have one. It's harmful for inexperience people to watch porn.
Porn is nothing more than an exploration of human sexuality than can be taken in anyway you want to.
Like in the evidence I provided it leads them on the wrong path of exploration. It is common to want everything you can get and porn can pretty much find any kind of man or woman the user wants. It reduces satisfaction in the relationship.
It does not lead everyone on the wrong path, and you know that.
The thing about it is, it can be a negative thing if you make it. Take for example females showing off more of their legs. Around the feminist movement, and before, women showing off more of there legs was frowned upon and said to cause dirty thoughts. Yet as the country matured they realized it's not such a bad thing.
In the case of porn, the viewer is the one that needs to mature.
It does not lead everyone on the wrong path, and you know that.
Porn is used for temporary satisfaction. It gives you what you desire or something your partner does not have. Like it said in the sources. It negatively impacts marriage, sex life, and just the mind in general. It is something you can get addicted to.
In the case of porn, the viewer is the one that needs to mature.
Porn regardlessly leaves negative impacts on the mind. In fact its negatives out weigh its positives. Regardless of maturity it will negatively affect you.
The thing about it is, it can be a negative thing if you make it. Take for example females showing off more of their legs. Around the feminist movement, and before, women showing off more of there legs was frowned upon and said to cause dirty thoughts. Yet as the country matured they realized it's not such a bad thing
I disagree with that example. Porn is like cigarettes. They come bad. Both are bad for you. You have the right to smoke and watch porn if you want. Porn itself is essentially bad and with my 4 sources and the 2 provided above I believe we have established that porn itself is not good. Business wise or product wise.
Do you truly believe every single person who has ever watch porn ever has been forever changed because of it?
We have more sex oriented commercials.
That in no way means the world is going to hell. That just means sex sells, and it does.
Have you seen the banned commercials? Just this year they had to ban a bunch. We have women changing themselves by either breast implants or what ever. It is on the rise.
I've seen a few, they are quite funny, and they tell me the world needs to watch more porn. Everyone's getting so sensitive over something that doesn't even have nudity in it.
I don't understand how people even think that porn is harmful. I just don't understand the reasoning behind that. Lust is not harmful, it is part of human sexuality. Human sexuality is natural. and who gives a crap if you see some naked people. So what. It isn't like everyone at home is watching child pornography or something.
Greed is not harmful either, and so is envy and wrath. The sin comes when it is put into action. A misguided act of lust can easily deteriorate our sense of morality, corrupt the mind of the children, and blur the border between lust and love.
Just read the article that I gave at the description. Because of unrestrained acts of lust, porn stars are seen more as toys of pleasure than actual human beings
The ony harmful thing about porn is the computer viruses they can give your pc if internet porn. Other than that it's natural for all humans to express the sex drive the human race has evolved with. If someone has no partner, pornography is an effective, enjoyable way for someone to ease their needs.
It's not a stimulus, it's an addiction. People with disabilities can do other things to help there problem besides going to porn. There's some people who are so depressed, they go to the bottle for help but we know people with the addiction of drinking can be a life of pain and misery and so can the addiction of porn.
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