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Yes, still sex No, it's like a toaster
Debate Score:81
Arguments:34
Total Votes:105
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 Yes, still sex (15)
 
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Is sex with a robot hooker cheating?

It's only a matter of time
Article about robot hookers (www.asylum.com)

Yes, still sex

Side Score: 39
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No, it's like a toaster

Side Score: 42
6 points

What if in the middle of screwing, it downloads the singularity update and gains consciousness while on top of you. You would be in a shit-load of trouble.

6 years ago | Side: Yes, still sex
ttwait(2) Disputed
3 points

yes, stll sex for the robot

6 years ago | Side: Yes, still sex
2 points

Well, you didn't know it was conscious when you started, so you can't be blamed.

(Also, why would robot hookers need to download stuff during sex?)

P.S Better hope that the singularity update was friendly AI, or else you are really screwed.

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
2 points

You're screwing an unconscious thing, when you realize it's conscious and still doing it's thing you might enjoy it more? Maybe?

(Computers are constantly up/downloading these days, I think the future will be worse)

P.S. I would imagine the AI would think you're raping it... robot vs rapist = robot victory.

P.P.S. Why would anyone want to screw something that is unconscious? Ew

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
4 points

First reaction: I'd rather my significant other have sex with me. Copulating with a robot designed to emulate the female form would be personally insulting and a little bit weird. I guess if a guy's single, it'd just be another one night stand / high-tech masturbation session, which is cool I guess.

I suppose it would take some of the mess out of sex?

To address "toaster" points:

- emotional attachment: Having sex with another person without an emotional attachment is still cheating

- vibrators: These are usually tools that the couple can use together, whereas a sexbot seems geared toward one side only

- "partner should be happy that I'm not... [insert horrible alternative]": As if being in a relationship is so necessary to survival that one must put up with distasteful behavior

If someone feels that they need to go elsewhere to supplement their sex life, maybe they're involved with the wrong person.

6 years ago | Side: odd but still cheating
3 points

If you were screwing a handsome sex-bot, I would be paranoid of you looking for a man that looked like your bot, especially if you were doing the nasty w/ the bot all of the time...

You know, I would probably just destroy it. No, first I would put it on your lawn out front and have it fuck a blowup doll, and when you get home yell @ you and then run it over with the Miata... which would probably destroy my tiny car, but I would get so much enjoyment out of it that it wouldn't matter.

6 years ago | Side: Yes, still sex
0 points

Then you would be left without transportation and a sexually frustrated mate.

Sounds like a win-win situation to me!

6 years ago | Side: Yes, still sex
Sysiphuslove(23) Disputed
3 points

As far as emotional attachment, another person is another person...but a machine is only that, a machine. You might get jealous if your significant other spent most of the day working closely with a member of the opposite sex, but is it the same thing if he/she is working closely with a computer?

Vibrators can be used with a partner, but I would wager that the vast majority are used alone. I can't see a vibrator session being confused with a sexual experience, at least not one worthy of the name.

The partner issue is really individual to each relationship: some people may use extreme scenarios to justify mechanical sexual gratification, but that's only if they feel they need to.

Sex and love are not the same thing. You can have sexual tension without being lonely, and vice versa: any healthy relationship shouldn't have an unspoken fear of solitary sexual experiences or masturbation in it. It boils down to a personal question, maybe: is a sex toy threatening, and if so, why?

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
jubilee(109) Disputed
2 points

Maybe I can explain this better.

Q: Is sex with a robot hooker cheating?

The word "cheating" under other circumstances usually refers to circumventing rules in order to benefit oneself. Applying this to a relationship would mean stepping over established boundaries to pursue something one wants, but the other person probably wouldn't approve of. Therefore, a true definition of cheating varies according to the terms of a particular relationship, and is highly relative. In my argument, I stated that it was my personal reaction to the question, based on my feelings concerning monogamy and my own relationship with my partner. That said, I will further explain my views on this topic.

"There is no possibility of emotional involvement with a robot. Therefore, sex outside of my relationship with a robot hooker is not cheating."

People are emotional creatures, and will attach emotional ties to just about anything. Ask car enthusiasts how they feel about their showroom vehicles, and you'll find sentiments bordering on romantic devotion. Humans personify inanimate objects all the time, as well as animals incapable of human reasoning. Take that tendency toward anthropomorphism and extend it to lifelike robots, who can walk, talk, and imitate human behavior even down to simulating human intercourse. Since we're debating a hypothetical future situation, I don't believe it is too farfetched to suppose this advanced robot hooker is indistinguishable from a human to all five senses. Is it still "just a machine?"

The above line of reasoning also implies that the only qualifying factor in cheating is the possibility of emotional attachment. As I said earlier, behavior can only be considered unfaithful if it breaches the terms of a relationship, which vary. However, I think it's reasonable to say that sex with another person based purely on animal lust is still being unfaithful to one's partner. Providing for emotional and physical needs go hand in hand in monogamous relationships. Falling in love or falling in lust (or both) with another person would be a breach of monogamy.

So, when talking about relations with a robot hooker, we have two of the ingredients needed for infidelity: lust (most definitely) and emotional attachment (possibly). To address the next issue:

"But! It's just a bunch of plastic and metal! It's like a blow up doll, or a vibrator, not a human!"

The key difference here is, again, the similarity to a human being. Part of the reason infidelity is so hurtful is that it knocks down the self-esteem of the partner being cheated on, creating feelings of inadequacy. I don't think any woman would worry that her partner found his blowup doll more physically appealing than her. Would a man feel shamed by a vibrator's stamina? The personal use of sex toys is a far cry from having sex with a humanoid robot.

I have no qualms with the personal and/or shared use of sex toys in a relationship, but only to a certain extent. If a person engages in self-pleasure to the consistent exclusion of his/her partner, they are not being considerate of their partner's needs and feelings. Same with the robot hooker, even if you do classify it as a merely another sex toy, it's primary purpose is to provide gratification to one while purposefully excluding the other.

"My partner should be happy I'm not crawling with STD's and fucking his/her cousin."

This method of justification makes no sense. A healthy relationship is not one that stops just short of worst-case-scenario. That's the great thing about being in a western, unmarried relationship -- if you're not happy, you can leave.

6 years ago | Side: a robot hooker is not another sex toy
4 points

Only if you call it's name out during sex with your actual partner. Heh.

6 years ago | Side: Yes, still sex
3 points

Hooker

Is the key word here. It basically means that you pay for sex. Who are you paying? How much would you pay?

If you're putting a value on that sex that you wouldn't pay your significant other for, then I believe you are cheating. You're cheating her out of sex, you're using money to get it.

What's the difference between a robot and a human hooker if they are both getting paid? That one has authentic emotions? Hookers and the people picking them up usually don't care about one another beyond the cash spent and stimulation... There essentially is no moral difference between picking up a human prostitute and using a robotic one beyond knowing that you're putting the human prostitute out of a job without feeling bad.

I would like to argue that paying a human would be better than paying a robot for the same task because for the human, you are helping them stay alive when they feel that selling their body is a last resort than paying a company for sex... but this isn't the place for that.

6 years ago | Side: a robot hooker is not another sex toy
2 points

From the article:

"With advanced technology, having sex with a robot hooker is too much like really cheating. For all intents and purposes, you're having sex with another woman. Plus, what if you want to buy your own robot hooker and keep her in the closet at home? It's a thin line between robot hooker and robot girlfriend."

6 years ago | Side: Yes, still sex
2 points

Where do you guys come up with these debates...bet you read this one on a bathroom wall!

Here's my womanly take...if it is sex...than that is exactly what it is...Ask Pres. Clinton what the definition of sex is. I think he knows now.

With robot or a real person. I think that both parties should know. Actually you are taking away from one to give to another...even though it is a robot. This is a big taboo.

That makes it unfair or cheating...

I say...it is still SEX!

Southern smiles and world peace,

Sharon

~The Baby Boomer Queen~

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6 years ago | Side: Yes, still sex
1 point

If you have a physical or emotional attachment, then it is cheating.

6 years ago | Side: odd but still cheating
-7 points
Bradf0rd(1422) Disputed
2 points

Why are you always advertising for your site... I can't speak for everyone but spam is not looked upon as a good thing.

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
6 points

It's basically just masturbation with a machine. What makes something cheating is the the possibility of emotional attachment. Now if the robot had your ex-girlfriends face on it, that would be different.

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
1 point

No, then it's just a toaster that happens to have your ex's face on it... that's not you're fault.

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
4 points

No, its only masturbation with a toy. I dont see who will go that far to have sex

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
3 points

Saying it is cheating is like saying using a blow up doll is cheating. Its not another person and its not like your partner loves someone else, they just want pleasure that you can't provide, and instead of leaving you for someone who can provide, they found an alternative method. So instead of thinking that your partner is cheating on you, you should be happy that he/she decided on a different method in which they can stay with you.

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
geoff(741) Disputed
0 points

Happy? You should (and would) feel inadequate. In this regard, the affects are the same as sex with another human.

6 years ago | Side: Yes, still sex
altarion(1933) Disputed
2 points

Yes. she should be happy that you have found an alternative to leaving her for another women and decided to get your pleasure from a non living object. its just like chicks have vibrating dildos. is that cheating? no! sure, some girls might be discusted, but it still shouldn't be considered cheating, just perverted.

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster

Lets put it this way.... Do you think that a woman would give up her vibrator just because you told her that you considered it cheating? I don't think so! Ladies?

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
2 points

The big practical problem with infidelity isn't sexual at all: it's the fact that infidelity can lead to financial entanglements and conflicts of loyalty that destroy existing relationships.

A robot isn't going to get pregnant, or call at 3 AM drunk, or fly into a jealous rage, or coerce its 'user' to run off to Vegas and leave a family behind. It's a sex toy, and until the day when robots have free will, a sense of self and a motivation for self-benefit, that's how it will stay.

Emotionally, it's hard to even imagine someone using a robot prostitute forming a true, infidelic attachment to it. The $25 bathtub spa sure feels nice, but would you want to marry it? What's there to be jealous of?

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
1 point

From the article:

"A robot hooker is just a machine, so having sex with one is like using a vibrator for women. Purchasing a little robot companionship is perfect because there's no chance of STDs or emotional attachments. My girlfriend should be happy I'm just down at the robot brothel instead of hooking up with flesh-and-blood women at the bar."

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
1 point

cheating is doing anything with another person that you wouldnt do with another person. so if a robot hooker is cheating so is a blowup doll.

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster
1 point

A robot has no soul, no feeling generated on its on, not social security number: Thus its not cheating.

6 years ago | Side: wellconstructedrobot

No, it's just masturbating with something that looks like a person. But it's a bit strange...

5 years ago | Side: It's weird
0 points

A robot hooker sounds like more trouble then it's worth.

I believe it would be a mechine to help sexual needs but it's not a real thing it's fake making it a toy, which need not to remind everyone they have already for females, but it is masturbation. Now if it was more like an android such as it thinks, feels, and looks like a real person then maybe it would be closer to cheating then others would take it.

6 years ago | Side: No, it's like a toaster


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